Re: [轉錄][乳摸] Bosh去德州當火箭人?

看板NBA作者 (lucifer1C 1)時間14年前 (2010/04/30 23:52), 編輯推噓34(36225)
留言63則, 38人參與, 最新討論串1/1
※ [本文轉錄自 Rockets 看板] 作者: lucifer1C1 (lucifer1C 1) 看板: Rockets 標題: Re: [轉錄][乳摸] Bosh去德州當火箭人? 時間: Fri Apr 30 23:51:44 2010 原文恕刪..... 上一篇文章來源是RealGM轉ESPN的部份文章而來的... 而ESPN的原文是 The newsiest element of Brad Miller’s declaration earlier this week that he has no interest in signing with the New York Knicks this summer was actually Miller’s disclosure that he is highly interested in staying with Chicago. Brad Miller 這星期不早之前最新的聲明說他今年暑假沒有興趣去紐約.... Miller 也洩露說他對留在公牛有很高的興趣.... Until Miller mentioned a return to the Bulls, it was widely assumed that he was headed to the Houston Rockets this offseason as Yao Ming’s backup, enabling the 33-year-old to reunite with his former coach (Rick Adelman) and teammate (Kevin Martin) from Sacramento. 在 Miller 提到願意回公牛之前.... 人們普遍的認為他第一個考慮是下季去 Houston Rockets 作為姚明的替補... 使33歲的他可以跟恩師 (Rick Adelman) 與舊隊友 (Kevin Martin) 再續前緣... Miller told local reporters during the Chicago-Cleveland series that he has a “very, very, very small list” of potential free-agent destinations in mind. Yet it remains to be seen how much money and interest Chicago will have left for Miller after chasing the likes of Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh and Joe Johnson. Miller 在公牛跟騎士的系列賽時告訴當地的記者在他成為自由球員之後... 他有一個有意願與之簽約的"非常非常小的球隊名單"在他腦袋中.... 但也要看公牛在對 Dwyane Wade, Chris BoshJoe Johnson 出價後還有多少銀彈 來留住Miller. Houston, meanwhile, is indeed interested in Miller as a secondary target after the Rockets make their own hard sign-and-trade push for a marquee free agent. But one source said this week that the Rockets-Miller link has been overstated at such an early juncture, with the start of free agency still two months away. Houston 也把 Miller 當作在有相當困難度的先簽後換完成後想簽下來的第二目標. 但有一個消息說火箭跟 Miller之間的聯結是被誇大的. 離自由市場開市還有足足兩個月... The Rockets’ No. 1 free-agent target? Sources say it’s still Bosh, who earlier this season said the idea of playing in his hometown of Dallas holds limited appeal … but hasn’t said anything to suggest that he wouldn’t play somewhere else in his home state. 火箭在自由市場大亂鬥中第一目標到底是誰呢? 有消息來源指稱火箭的目標一直是Bosh. Bosh在球季早期說他有一個想要去離家鄉達拉斯不遠的球隊打球的想法. 但並沒有說出任何可猜測他到底會去哪個在德州的球隊. If the Raptors and Bosh reach the expected conclusion that it’s time for an amicable divorce, Houston has amassed an enticing cache of sign-and-trade assets. One source, offering one small example, says that the Raptors are intrigued by young forward Jordan Hill, whom the Rockets extracted from the Knicks in the Tracy McGrady three-way deal in February. 一但 Bosh 跟 暴龍 達成了共同的結論之時... 他們之間就是分手的時刻了..... Houston 已經順利的累積了誘人的交易材料來達成先簽後換... 有一個消息指出.... 火箭準備把年輕的前鋒 Jordan Hill(今年8th pick)拿來當作對暴龍的補償.... Jordan Hill 是在今年2月在T-Mac跟紐約的三方交易中拿到的... As a (reasonably) big-market team -- with low-key cornerstones like Martin and Aaron Brooks, and a franchise player in Yao Ming who might not be a franchise player any more after being forced to sit out an entire season -- Houston can also offer the stage and go-to guy spotlight Bosh covets. 做為一個大市場球隊(中國市場+美國第4大都市) 以及低調的球隊基石 Kevin MartinAaron Brooks... 招牌球員 Yao Ming 在傷後的未知狀況.... Houston 可以提供足夠的舞台與燈光給 Bosh 來發揮... Yet it’s believed that the Raptors, if Bosh indeed proves willing to join the Rockets via sign-and-trade, will try to foist Hedo Turkoglu on Houston as part of the deal. Would the Rockets be willing to take on Turkoglu’s contract ($43.8 million over the next four years) and surrender, say, Trevor Ariza in return to clinch Bosh’s arrival? The cost of adding Bosh along with Turkoglu would likely be prohibitive for the Rockets, but Toronto certainly figures to try. 如果Bosh有意願加入火箭隊.... 相信暴龍一定會嘗試把 Hedo Turkoglu 加入先簽後換的交易包裹中..... 火箭會對暴龍提出收下 Turkoglu 4年43.8M的長約要求投降嗎? Ariza 在Bosh到來後會變成怎樣呢? Hedo Turkoglu 的長約可能使得火箭對收下Bosh的代價增加因此望而卻步... 但暴龍一定會努力嘗試... Source:http://tinyurl.com/25reajj Translated by myself Bosh+Turkoglu.... 有誰願意一起吃下呢? 不要Bosh翻臉不認人自己找有薪資空間的球隊來先簽後換... 一樣可以到想要的球隊... 暴龍還什麼都吃不到.... Bosh想去哪可是Bosh來做決定呢........ -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 220.134.39.3 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 220.134.39.3

04/30 23:54, , 1F
Bosh:你敢叫我箭人我要告到朝廷
04/30 23:54, 1F

04/30 23:54, , 2F
樓上不知所云
04/30 23:54, 2F

04/30 23:54, , 3F
˙樓下不知所措
04/30 23:54, 3F

04/30 23:55, , 4F
如果是火槍兵+龍王,火箭要多少人才能換阿= =
04/30 23:55, 4F

04/30 23:55, , 5F
而且火箭GM向來不喜歡吃長肥約,而火槍兵...
04/30 23:55, 5F

04/30 23:56, , 6F
進良!!!!!
04/30 23:56, 6F

04/30 23:57, , 7F
箭人箭人箭人~~~~~~~~~
04/30 23:57, 7F
在那邊箭人箭人的叫法請停止.... 我辛辛苦苦翻譯這篇文章..... 可不是在為了看你們開這個不好笑的玩笑的.... 我是火箭迷.... 開這種玩笑會很不爽.... ※ 編輯: lucifer1C1 來自: 220.134.39.3 (05/01 00:02)

05/01 00:00, , 8F
˙我說大人
05/01 00:00, 8F

05/01 00:01, , 9F
火箭人Roger Clemens表示:____
05/01 00:01, 9F

05/01 00:02, , 10F
我箭人叫你大人就行
05/01 00:02, 10F

05/01 00:04, , 11F
推這篇的詳細,借轉~
05/01 00:04, 11F
timk7:轉錄至看板 Raptors 05/01 00:05

05/01 00:05, , 12F
好吧對不起原PO 可以的話幫我刪推文
05/01 00:05, 12F

05/01 00:06, , 13F
我也是一時興起 = =
05/01 00:06, 13F

05/01 00:07, , 14F
˙原PO不要太在意 辛苦你啦 NBA板需要你這種人才!!!!
05/01 00:07, 14F

05/01 00:12, , 15F
總版的廢物很多又不是不知道....看看就好
05/01 00:12, 15F

05/01 00:13, , 16F
這麼大的包裹 火箭要吃下也很不容易 而說Bosh有主導
05/01 00:13, 16F

05/01 00:14, , 17F
不好意思請問一下第一段Bran Miller是外號還是筆誤?
05/01 00:14, 17F
感謝指證....我筆誤了.....是Brad不是Bran...

05/01 00:15, , 18F
權也不全然 火箭也不在薪資上限下 交易必須對等
05/01 00:15, 18F

05/01 00:15, , 19F
說實在 芝麻官的梗用在這還蠻好笑的 XD
05/01 00:15, 19F

05/01 00:17, , 20F
Turkoglu.....姚明終於有人能給他好好傳球了嗎?
05/01 00:17, 20F

05/01 00:17, , 21F
暴龍如果拿不到好的報價 直接放棄Bosh 空出來的薪資
05/01 00:17, 21F

05/01 00:18, , 22F
還比較好 更別提如果Bosh想拿到最高漲幅的薪資
05/01 00:18, 22F

05/01 00:18, , 23F
還必須要靠暴龍先簽後換
05/01 00:18, 23F

05/01 00:20, , 24F
最後那段有誤 Bosh要先簽後換要看暴龍臉色 不然就自
05/01 00:20, 24F
這裡解說一下.... 最後一段不是我誤會... 而是Bosh想要到火箭拿超過中產的合約的話.... 還是一定要先簽後換... 重點是Bosh已經有想去已達薪資上限的球隊 而不想去空有薪資空間的球隊 Bosh要到火箭或者已達薪資空間上限的球隊的話... 有兩條路可走... 第一條路是讓暴龍用大鳥條款續約... 然後跟想去的球隊來做先簽後換.... 這條路必須暴龍跟Bosh跟想去的球隊都答應才行... 這對Bosh是最好的選擇... 因為Bosh可以簽6年薪資漲幅也比較大... 第二條路是Bosh找有薪資空間的球隊簽約... 簽個2+1年.... 然後在跟想去的球隊先簽後換.... 等到這2+1年走完... 再用大鳥條款來續約.... 這條路的優勢在於完全不用理會暴龍願不願意點頭.... 有薪資空間的球隊還很多... 比一定要只跟暴龍談好才行的第一條路來說選擇性較多.... 也很容易成功.... 走這條路暴龍就是白白損失Bosh但得到薪資空間..... Bosh再未來的幾年也會少拿一些錢... 不過Bosh現在才26... 26+3年後也才29.... 還是有可能再拿一個頂約的... 29+6=35... 他到35歲都可以拿頂約...... 但假使現在簽6年的話.... 26+6=32.... 32歲以後要拿到頂約的機會就小很多了.... 等於差3年的頂約時間..... 第二條路也未必對Bosh是不利的.... 畢竟多32~35歲的時間可以拿頂約應該夠補這段時期虧的了... 但也有風險... 就是26~29歲的時間他都必須維持在頂峰狀況.... 別人才願意跟Bosh在續長約......... 所以我沒誤會喔......

05/01 00:20, , 25F
蠻好笑的+1 原PO不要介意啦
05/01 00:20, 25F

05/01 00:20, , 26F
己直接去跟別隊簽就好了
05/01 00:20, 26F

05/01 00:21, , 27F
妳好認真
05/01 00:21, 27F

05/01 00:21, , 28F
火箭拿到Bosh的話,明年西區說不定出現50勝進不了季後
05/01 00:21, 28F

05/01 00:22, , 29F
賽的囧樣...
05/01 00:22, 29F

05/01 00:22, , 30F
其實感覺火槍兵很搭火箭耶...除了防守差點 但是他
05/01 00:22, 30F

05/01 00:23, , 31F
的組織能力搭Yao+AB+Bosh+K-Mart會很可怕....
05/01 00:23, 31F

05/01 00:23, , 32F
抵銷無腦噓文 原PO才真的別跟某個愛亂的認真
05/01 00:23, 32F

05/01 00:23, , 33F
國王迷已經要跟火箭迷密不可分了嗎...
05/01 00:23, 33F

05/01 00:24, , 34F
原PO太認真 總板不需要這種認真的只需要更高級的釣客
05/01 00:24, 34F

05/01 00:25, , 35F
推原po辛苦翻譯。
05/01 00:25, 35F

05/01 00:26, , 36F
不好意思最近沒注意暴龍 請問火槍兵這季打得如何?
05/01 00:26, 36F

05/01 00:27, , 37F
要是還像前一季那般好用,其實我覺得這約吃下去不錯
05/01 00:27, 37F

05/01 00:36, , 38F
好文推 可是顏色紅的看起來眼睛好痛@@"
05/01 00:36, 38F

05/01 00:36, , 39F
問題是火槍兵太貴了....這個養老約很難吃的下吧
05/01 00:36, 39F

05/01 00:36, , 40F
原來是筆誤,因為d和n還蠻遠的,想說該不會是外號吧
05/01 00:36, 40F

05/01 00:37, , 41F
謝謝回應喔^^
05/01 00:37, 41F

05/01 00:37, , 42F
如果火箭也有爛約要清,要交易火箭才比較有可能成立
05/01 00:37, 42F

05/01 00:37, , 43F
雖然火槍兵看起來就跟yao很搭的樣子...
05/01 00:37, 43F

05/01 00:40, , 44F
義大利人要成為新龍王?
05/01 00:40, 44F

05/01 00:46, , 45F
推原PO認真!!!
05/01 00:46, 45F

05/01 00:48, , 46F
找其他球隊Sign&Trade是不可行的,因為S&T只適用在自
05/01 00:48, 46F

05/01 00:48, , 47F
家的FA身上,也就是說只有暴龍對Bosh有S&T的權利
05/01 00:48, 47F

05/01 00:50, , 48F
(假如傳言為真)那對火箭是不利的,因為火箭除了S&T沒
05/01 00:50, 48F

05/01 00:50, , 49F
龍王+火槍兵好貴...
05/01 00:50, 49F

05/01 00:50, , 50F
Scoal先簽後換+Hill+配菜換Bosh先簽後換其實還不錯
05/01 00:50, 50F
※ 編輯: lucifer1C1 來自: 220.134.39.3 (05/01 00:53)

05/01 00:51, , 51F
有任何拿得到Bosh的方式,但三方協議中應該還是Bosh佔
05/01 00:51, 51F

05/01 00:52, , 52F
有最重要的位置,因為他可以接受任何其他隊伍的報價走
05/01 00:52, 52F

05/01 00:52, , 53F
人,讓暴龍什麼也拿不到
05/01 00:52, 53F

05/01 00:53, , 54F
差別在於透過暴龍S&T他可以拿到最大6年$125M的總薪資
05/01 00:53, 54F

05/01 00:53, , 55F
直接和其他球隊簽約他只能拿到最多5年$96M的總薪資
05/01 00:53, 55F
感謝解釋... 我不曉得S&T只能跟原隊.... 那這樣火箭要得到Bosh只能跟暴龍談了.... 上面我寫的東西錯了.... 嘛.... 錯了就錯了.... 現在改正也顯得虛諉... 就留著讓我作為警惕吧...... ※ 編輯: lucifer1C1 來自: 220.134.39.3 (05/01 01:06)

05/01 01:12, , 56F
頂約過明年夏天 一般判斷會限縮...
05/01 01:12, 56F

05/01 02:29, , 57F
這邊也推一個~~
05/01 02:29, 57F

05/01 03:12, , 58F
推辛苦翻譯@@
05/01 03:12, 58F

05/01 07:46, , 59F
在暴龍叫迅猛龍 在火箭絕對教太空梭
05/01 07:46, 59F

05/01 08:08, , 60F
寫得很好GJ!!
05/01 08:08, 60F

05/01 08:15, , 61F
05/01 08:15, 61F

05/01 13:03, , 62F
05/01 13:03, 62F

05/02 01:12, , 63F
推~
05/02 01:12, 63F
文章代碼(AID): #1BslogJp (NBA)