http://www.upmedia.mg/news_info.php?SerialNo=13732
由海軍與台船組成的潛艦國造小組,在2月間前往義大利
、荷蘭、德國與英國等4國進行首次訪商後,該小組在3月
初由海軍潛艦戰隊長趙健國率領下,前往美國拜會美方製
造潛艦零組件的廠商與系統商。據指出,美國海軍表明,
若我方沒有取得荷蘭官方授權,建造劍龍級潛艦外殼的專
利權,美國海軍延後對台提供技術服務的立場不變,因此
這次赴美就僅僅是單純的訪商行程,並無具體與廠商達成
合作的方案。
知情人士指出,海軍的潛艦國造小組的顧問群中,有來自
日本軍方背景,而且是潛艦出身的多位日籍顧問,這幾位
日籍顧問評估若要向日本爭取潛艦外殼,以正開始除役成
為訓練的親潮級潛艦較為合適,因春潮級潛艦除役封存時
間久,要檢視其堪用程度就相當費工,因此建議若向日方
爭取,應以親潮級潛艦為目標。
1. 所以現在就剩自己設計一個和從日本引進船殼兩個選項
2. 日本…應該很難,所以不管最後有沒有辦法引進,自己
設計一個都要馬上開始做
3. 可以先從無戰系和武器的實驗艦開始。雖然可能花掉好
幾百億造三四艘沒有作戰能力的船,但總是好過一直等
下去
--
※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 36.231.130.213
※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Military/M.1489595659.A.96C.html
→
03/16 00:45, , 1F
03/16 00:45, 1F
→
03/16 00:52, , 2F
03/16 00:52, 2F
唉,我前面其實有一篇也說過了,專利權不是問題,問題
是著作權。記者不懂這些也不是太奇怪的事(很多人對於
無形資產的定義和分類都不太懂,即使是商科的),有些
事情就只能將就點
→
03/16 01:00, , 3F
03/16 01:00, 3F
→
03/16 01:04, , 4F
03/16 01:04, 4F
→
03/16 01:16, , 5F
03/16 01:16, 5F
→
03/16 01:18, , 6F
03/16 01:18, 6F
→
03/16 01:18, , 7F
03/16 01:18, 7F
※ 編輯: Zefr (36.231.130.213), 03/16/2017 01:30:18
→
03/16 01:38, , 8F
03/16 01:38, 8F
→
03/16 01:39, , 9F
03/16 01:39, 9F
→
03/16 01:39, , 10F
03/16 01:39, 10F
至少老美的法律有,而且明白的說到船舶的設計屬於著作權
的保護範圍,而老美廠商可能會怕被告或內規就不准碰有這
類疑慮的事。只是到底實際上是那一部分會有那一方面的法
律問題我就不知道了…
https://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap13.html#1302
1301. Designs protected2
(a) Designs Protected.—
(1) In general.—The designer or other owner of an
original design of a useful article which makes
the article attractive or distinctive in appearance
to the purchasing or using public may secure the
protection provided by this chapter upon complying
with and subject to this chapter.
(2) Vessel features.—The design of a vessel hull, deck,
or combination of a hull and deck, including a plug or
mold, is subject to protection under this chapter,
notwithstanding section 1302(4).
→
03/16 01:41, , 11F
03/16 01:41, 11F
→
03/16 01:41, , 12F
03/16 01:41, 12F
※ 編輯: Zefr (36.231.130.213), 03/16/2017 02:11:04
→
03/16 02:20, , 13F
03/16 02:20, 13F
→
03/16 02:20, , 14F
03/16 02:20, 14F
→
03/16 02:26, , 15F
03/16 02:26, 15F
→
03/16 02:26, , 16F
03/16 02:26, 16F
感謝指正。所以看起來是美方為了拒絕提供協助而提出
的藉口?現在想起來,似乎美方也從來沒有正式同意提
供潛艦設計或建造的協助就是…
→
03/16 07:09, , 17F
03/16 07:09, 17F
→
03/16 07:09, , 18F
03/16 07:09, 18F
→
03/16 07:12, , 19F
03/16 07:12, 19F
→
03/16 07:18, , 20F
03/16 07:18, 20F
→
03/16 07:24, , 21F
03/16 07:24, 21F
→
03/16 07:52, , 22F
03/16 07:52, 22F
→
03/16 07:52, , 23F
03/16 07:52, 23F
※ 編輯: Zefr (36.231.130.213), 03/16/2017 08:36:29
→
03/16 08:53, , 24F
03/16 08:53, 24F
→
03/16 08:55, , 25F
03/16 08:55, 25F
→
03/16 08:57, , 26F
03/16 08:57, 26F
→
03/16 09:05, , 27F
03/16 09:05, 27F
→
03/16 09:05, , 28F
03/16 09:05, 28F
→
03/16 09:06, , 29F
03/16 09:06, 29F
→
03/16 09:08, , 30F
03/16 09:08, 30F
→
03/16 09:09, , 31F
03/16 09:09, 31F
→
03/16 09:10, , 32F
03/16 09:10, 32F
→
03/16 09:10, , 33F
03/16 09:10, 33F
噓
03/16 10:43, , 34F
03/16 10:43, 34F
噓
03/16 11:20, , 35F
03/16 11:20, 35F
噓
03/16 13:00, , 36F
03/16 13:00, 36F
→
03/16 13:00, , 37F
03/16 13:00, 37F
噓
03/16 13:09, , 38F
03/16 13:09, 38F
→
03/16 13:09, , 39F
03/16 13:09, 39F
→
03/16 13:12, , 40F
03/16 13:12, 40F
→
03/16 13:13, , 41F
03/16 13:13, 41F
→
03/16 13:14, , 42F
03/16 13:14, 42F
噓
03/16 13:36, , 43F
03/16 13:36, 43F
→
03/16 13:36, , 44F
03/16 13:36, 44F
→
03/16 16:28, , 45F
03/16 16:28, 45F
→
03/16 16:29, , 46F
03/16 16:29, 46F
噓
03/16 17:06, , 47F
03/16 17:06, 47F
噓
03/16 17:44, , 48F
03/16 17:44, 48F
→
03/16 17:52, , 49F
03/16 17:52, 49F
→
03/16 17:57, , 50F
03/16 17:57, 50F
推
03/16 19:39, , 51F
03/16 19:39, 51F
推
03/16 20:11, , 52F
03/16 20:11, 52F
推
03/16 20:19, , 53F
03/16 20:19, 53F
推
03/16 20:20, , 54F
03/16 20:20, 54F
推
03/16 20:22, , 55F
03/16 20:22, 55F
→
03/16 20:22, , 56F
03/16 20:22, 56F
推
03/16 20:23, , 57F
03/16 20:23, 57F
→
03/16 20:23, , 58F
03/16 20:23, 58F
→
03/16 20:28, , 59F
03/16 20:28, 59F
→
03/16 20:33, , 60F
03/16 20:33, 60F
→
03/16 20:33, , 61F
03/16 20:33, 61F
→
03/16 20:33, , 62F
03/16 20:33, 62F
→
03/16 20:37, , 63F
03/16 20:37, 63F
→
03/16 20:38, , 64F
03/16 20:38, 64F
推
03/16 20:40, , 65F
03/16 20:40, 65F
推
03/16 20:45, , 66F
03/16 20:45, 66F
→
03/16 20:47, , 67F
03/16 20:47, 67F
→
03/16 20:47, , 68F
03/16 20:47, 68F
→
03/16 20:48, , 69F
03/16 20:48, 69F
推
03/16 20:51, , 70F
03/16 20:51, 70F
推
03/16 20:55, , 71F
03/16 20:55, 71F
→
03/16 20:58, , 72F
03/16 20:58, 72F
→
03/16 20:58, , 73F
03/16 20:58, 73F
→
03/16 20:59, , 74F
03/16 20:59, 74F
→
03/16 21:00, , 75F
03/16 21:00, 75F
噓
03/17 09:58, , 76F
03/17 09:58, 76F
→
03/17 09:58, , 77F
03/17 09:58, 77F
→
03/17 12:01, , 78F
03/17 12:01, 78F
→
03/17 12:01, , 79F
03/17 12:01, 79F
→
03/17 20:51, , 80F
03/17 20:51, 80F