Re: [其他] 回火退火及淬火的不同

看板Mechanical作者時間10年前 (2013/10/14 14:04), 編輯推噓3(3012)
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※ 引述《kevin8290 (泰國王)》之銘言: : 原文吃光光 : 小弟剛好也有個退火的問題 : 藉由這標題上來請教一下 : 冷作之工件為消除應力,可施以(A)弛力退火 (B)回火 : (C)製程退火 (D)應變硬化 : 此題是一本高職 機械製造 課本後面的練習題 : 根據課本內容,直覺答案是(A),不過正確答案是(C) : 掃瞄課本內容如此連結 http://i.imgur.com/0JSYeMT.png
: 難道是答案給錯了? : 還是要用更細微的探討才能解此題? 個人覺得其實是題目敘述不好所造成的誤會 因為如果是消除應力選A或C都對 弛力退火(應力消除退火)是用材料在塑性變形完後所作的熱處理 製程退火是在冷作製程中,為了避免加工硬化造成材料破裂, 因此施以熱處理軟化材料並回復材料的延展性後,繼續冷作製程 所以要是將題目改為 [冷作製程中為避免加工造成應力斷裂所施以的熱處理?] 就比較不會有爭議....... 為了避免小弟的認知錯誤, 補上原文 Process Annealing is used to treat work-hardened parts made out of low-Carbon steels (< 0.25% Carbon). This allows the parts to be soft enough to undergo further cold working without fracturing. Process annealing is done by raising the temperature to just below the Ferrite-Austenite region, line A1on the diagram. This temperature is about 727 ºC (1341 ºF) so heating it to about 700 ºC (1292 ºF) should suffice. This is held long enough to allow recrystallization of the ferrite phase, and then cooled in still air. Since the material stays in the same phase through out the process, the only change that occurs is the size, shape and distribution of the grain structure. This process is cheaper than either full annealing or normalizing since the material is not heated to a very high temperature or cooled in a furnace. Stress Relief Anneal is used to reduce residual stresses in large castings, welded parts and cold-formed parts. Such parts tend to have stresses due to thermal cycling or work hardening. Parts are heated to temperatures of up to 600 - 650 ºC (1112 - 1202 ºF), and held for an extended time (about 1 hour or more) and then slowly cooled in still air. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 60.244.141.8

10/14 15:09, , 1F
以此英文述例中,個人認為這兩者的差別在有無超過727 ºC
10/14 15:09, 1F

10/14 15:15, , 2F
C由於是在說冷作工件的範圍之內,我想應該是比較符合題目
10/14 15:15, 2F

10/15 12:29, , 3F
原來如此!真的太感謝了
10/15 12:29, 3F

10/15 16:04, , 4F
基本上退火溫度是不會超過A1,不然沃斯田鐵就會跑出來
10/15 16:04, 4F

10/15 16:06, , 5F
因此我的重點是cold working 正在進行中的時態~~
10/15 16:06, 5F

10/16 00:56, , 6F
真的也是蠻贊同都可以,只是個人對cooling curve的情況不
10/16 00:56, 6F

10/16 00:57, , 7F
熟悉,只能選比較常識性的,而弛力退火真的沒有過A1嗎?
10/16 00:57, 7F

10/16 12:51, , 8F
弛力退火一般約700度,會過A1的大多是均質退火和完全退火
10/16 12:51, 8F

10/16 13:07, , 9F
剛去翻了些資料,像你下面PO的是講600 - 650 ºC (低碳鋼)
10/16 13:07, 9F

10/16 13:15, , 10F
ASM則不分含碳量一律在250 - 400 ºC之區間,跟工程退火很
10/16 13:15, 10F

10/16 13:20, , 11F
相像,不過一般冷作都用低碳的比較多。
10/16 13:20, 11F

10/16 14:23, , 12F
沒錯~所以第一段的原文也提到是用在含碳量0.2%以下的低
10/16 14:23, 12F

10/16 14:25, , 13F
碳鋼
10/16 14:25, 13F

10/16 14:26, , 14F
不好意思~我剛剛的推文打錯了~是製程退火約700度才對
10/16 14:26, 14F

10/17 08:32, , 15F
ASM那部分我會錯意了,看來要翻別本專書來參考了XDDDDD(逃
10/17 08:32, 15F
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