Re: [情報]M12預覽開始~!!!

看板Magic作者 (勝機不足就要拖)時間14年前 (2011/06/28 09:24), 編輯推噓8(8010)
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Vengeful Pharaoh 2BBB Creature - Zombie Deathtouch Whenever combat damage is dealt to your or a planeswalker you control, if Vengeful Pharaoh is in your graveyard, destroy target attacking creature, then put Vengeful Pharaoh on top of your library. 痾...法老的觸發式異能包含了一個"Intervening IF"的敘述,以中文來講,就是內文 裡面的"如果"這兩個字是在整段觸發式異能的<中間>,而不是<開頭>。如果是這種敘述的 話,則在觸發以及結算這項啟動式異能時都要符合"IF"那一段的條件。不符合的話就不會 成功結算。 這在完整規則裡面被稱為<intervening "if clause" rule>。 以下是完整規則: 603.4. A triggered ability may read "When/Whenever/At [trigger event], if [condition], [effect]." When the trigger event occurs, the ability checks whether the stated condition is true. The ability triggers only if it is; otherwise it does nothing. If the ability triggers, it checks the stated condition again as it resolves. If the condition isn't true at that time, the ability is removed from the stack and does nothing. Note that this mirrors the check for legal targets. This rule is referred to as the "intervening 'if' clause" rule. (The word "if" has only its normal English meaning anywhere else in the text of a card; this rule only applies to an "if" that immediately follows a trigger condition.) : 2. 假設他觸發多次 : 第一個堆疊解完 法老已經回牌庫頂了 : 等到解第二個堆疊 根據完整規則603.4 : 因為不符合if條件 所以整個異能會被移除 : 後面類推 2.是對的。 ------ 順帶一提,如果IF出現在內文敘述的開頭而不是中間,則他會照一般人所認知的去 處理~。 然後在同一次戰鬥傷害分配中,法老的異能應該只會觸發一次。如果會觸發多次的話, 內文敘述應該是: Whenever "A CREATURE" deals combat damage to your or a planeswalker you control, if Vengeful Pharaoh is in your graveyard, destroy target attacking creature,then put Vengeful Pharaoh on top of your library. 有"A CREATURE"的話,就是一個生物算一次~ (好像這樣寫才對....ORZ) -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 114.24.60.147 ※ 編輯: jackshai 來自: 114.24.60.147 (06/28 09:28)

06/28 09:28, , 1F
咦?所以是會觸發多次???
06/28 09:28, 1F

06/28 09:28, , 2F
我還沒打完XD
06/28 09:28, 2F

06/28 09:29, , 3F
他沒有寫"每當一個生物打到你",就只會確認你有沒受傷。
06/28 09:29, 3F

06/28 09:29, , 4F
簡單來說會觸發多次,但第一次結算的時候法老就回家了
06/28 09:29, 4F

06/28 09:31, , 5F
!! 會觸發多次嘛@@?
06/28 09:31, 5F

06/28 09:32, , 6F
喔 不對耶 我看錯 只會觸發1次 = =
06/28 09:32, 6F

06/28 09:33, , 7F
印象中by a creature只有用在becomes blocked敘述
06/28 09:33, 7F

06/28 09:33, , 8F
似乎沒有看過接在damage is dealt to you後面的
06/28 09:33, 8F
※ 編輯: jackshai 來自: 114.24.60.147 (06/28 09:36)

06/28 10:09, , 9F
因為你可能檔很多隻生物,或被很多隻生物檔
06/28 10:09, 9F

06/28 10:33, , 10F
destroy target attacking creature 我想光這句就很明白了
06/28 10:33, 10F

06/28 11:14, , 11F
"target"
06/28 11:14, 11F

06/28 11:43, , 12F
有人有髮老的圖片嗎
06/28 11:43, 12F

06/28 11:44, , 13F
法老
06/28 11:44, 13F

06/28 20:29, , 14F
怎麼覺得簡單的問題越來越複雜 本來很確信->慢慢開始懷疑自己
06/28 20:29, 14F

06/29 00:57, , 15F
所以即使你被多於一個生物打也只會觸發一次?
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06/29 00:57, , 16F
而且也僅限於戰鬥傷害
06/29 00:57, 16F

06/29 09:47, , 17F
回樓上 YES~
06/29 09:47, 17F

06/30 01:54, , 18F
感謝
06/30 01:54, 18F
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