Re: [問題] 傷害不能被prevent?

看板Magic作者 (牛油)時間15年前 (2008/11/12 08:12), 編輯推噓1(100)
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※ 引述《neverbbs (真的!)》之銘言: : 假設 : 反紅生物 : 在傷害不能被prevent的情況下 : 是否也是會被紅色來源造成傷害呢? : protect from red 指的是prevent所有紅色傷害吧? : 所以當Everlasting Torment在場上 : http://ww2.wizards.com/gatherer/CardDetails.aspx?&id=142036 : Players can't gain life. : Damage can't be prevented. : All damage is dealt as though its source had wither. (A source with wither : deals damage to creatures in the form of -1/-1 counters.) : 反色生物會被該色造成傷害並放上-1/-1 counters : 這樣理解應該沒問題吧? : 先在此感謝! 這是個好問題 我思考一會(大約5秒 囧>)覺得是不能做成傷害,即是不會放上-1/-1 counters 不過這還是要看原文怎樣寫才能確定 稍微查了一下,先看看rules 是怎樣寫的 502.80. Wither 502.80a Damage dealt to a creature by a source with wither doesn't stay on that creature (see rule 212.3g). Rather, it causes that many -1/-1 counters to be put on that creature. 502.80b Multiple instances of wither on the same object are redundant. 然後再看看官方的解釋 Wither isn't a replacement ability—it doesn't replace dealing damage with something else—precisely because that would interact in potentially confusing ways with abilities such as lifelink and deathtouch. To avoid that, wither changes a variable that's never been altered before: what damage does when it's dealt. 這說明wither不是一個代替性異能 一切和傷害有關的rules和異能也可以正常運作 例如lifelink, deathtouch, 這當然也包括prevent damage source: http://0rz.tw/1c511 內裡有更詳盡的解釋和例子,有興的可以點進去後搜尋wither -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 58.160.168.63 ※ 編輯: cetong 來自: 58.160.168.63 (11/12 08:14)

11/12 08:18, , 1F
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11/12 08:18, 1F
抱歉....我眼殘 沒看到Damage can't be prevented.這行 <囧> 直覺性覺得是問prevent damage和wither的關係 刪除了文中錯誤的答案 以下才是原問題的正確答案 在Damage can't be prevented的情況下,的確可以對反色生物做成傷害 ※ 編輯: cetong 來自: 58.160.168.63 (11/12 08:28)
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