[情報] 國民是否會交易Gio簽chen 還有國民相關配置

看板MLB作者 (百夫長)時間10年前 (2016/01/08 22:45), 10年前編輯推噓59(61229)
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來源:http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/washington-nationals-gio-gonzalez-trade-rumors-chen-dodgers-maeda-giants-ken-rosenthal-010816 短網址:http://goo.gl/2wga2t 講國民是否考慮交易gio,國民需要中線,交易寶貝碰不容易,金鳥認為陳會去西岸, 結果巨人買好了,道奇買完了,水手也買好了,運動家教士不想花大錢。 國民有很多boras的球員,多個陳也不會令人訝異。 還有些內容請詳閱 Will the Nats continue their makeover by trading their top lefty? A trade of Gio Gonzalez could set several plans in motion 圖片 Gio Gonzalez has 84 wins and a 3.31 ERA since 2010. By Ken Rosenthal Jan 8, 2016 at 8:42a ET Before the Diamondbacks included Ender Inciarte in the Shelb Miller trade, they strongly considered a deal that would have sent Inciarte to the Nationals for left-hander Gio Gonzalez, according to major-league sources. Would the D-backs have been better off making that move rather than acquiring Miller from the Braves for Inciarte, right-hander Aaron Blair and last year's No. 1 overall draft pick, shortstop Dansby Swanson? That's one question to consider, and here's another: Could the Nationals trade Gonzalez for another center-field type, then sign free-agent left-hander Wei-Yin Chen? The Nats are discussing such a scenario, sources say. Their frequent business partner, agent Scott Boras, represents both pitchers. Gonzalez, 30, averaged only about 5 2/3 innings per start last season, but over the past six years his park- and league-adjusted ERA ranks 10th in the majors (minimum, 1,000 innings). At the right acquisition cost, he would be more attractive to teams than free-agent right-handers Ian Kennedy and Yovani Gallardo, both of whom are attached to draft picks. The addition of a left-handed hitting outfielder would give the Nats an alternative to the right-handed hitting Michael Taylor in center and Jayson Werth in left. Inciarte, however, is probably no longer an option, at least not for Gonzalez. The Braves are rebuilding, and Gonzalez is guaranteed $12 million in 2016 with a $12 million club option for '17 and $12 million club or vesting option for '18. Chen, who actually is two months older than Gonzalez, might not be a dramatic upgrade as his replacement. But the Nats likely are entering their final season with righty Stephen Strasburg, who looms as the prize of next winter's weak free-agent pitching class. They could sign Chen as a long-term piece to go with righty Max Scherzer, and still would control Tanner Roark along with younger righties such as Joe Ross, A.J. Cole and Lucas Giolito beyond '16. Officials with the Orioles, Chen's original club, originally believed that he would land with a West Coast club. But the Giants signed added righties Jeff Samardzija and Johnny Cueto, while the Dodgers added lefty Scott Kazmir and righty Kenta Maeda, and the Mariners ended up with righty Hisashi Iwakuma and lefty Wade Miley. The Athletics and Padres, meanwhile, are unlikely to spend big on a starter. Boras still could find another taker, considering that Chen is the best starter left on the open market. But it was right around this time a year ago that the agent negotiated with Nats owner Ted Lerner to bring Scherzer to Washington. And now that the Nats have signed one free agent who received a qualifying offer, second baseman Daniel Murphy, Chen would cost them only a second-round pick. The Nats, though, also can pursue other options. Rather than trade Gonzalez, they could fill their need for an outfielder by signing free agent Gerardo Parra, whom Nats GM Mike Rizzo secured out of Venezuela in 2004 during his tenure as the D-backs' scouting director. They could even pursue Yoenis Cespedes, but he would be more expensive and, as a right-handed hitter with limited ability in center, less of a fit. The bullpen is another variable: The Nats, according to rival executives, are trying to trade both of their top late-inning relievers, Drew Storen and Jonathan Papelbon. Storen, projected to earn almost $9 million in his final year of arbitration before free agency, is likely to go first. Papelbon -- guaranteed $11 million, armed with a 17-team no-trade clause and coming off a season-ending suspension for choking Bryce Harper -- is, uh, a more difficult sell. The Nats, who earlier this offseason signed free-agent relievers Oliver Perez and Shawn Kelley, will need additional bullpen help if they trade Storen and/or Papelbon; one of their former relievers, righty Tyler Clippard, is still available on the free-agent market. Indeed, Rizzo ultimately could abandon any thought of Chen, determining that he needs an outfielder and a reliever more than a starter. Then again, Boras' clients on the Nationals already include not just Scherzer, Strasburg and Gonzalez, but also Werth, Harper, shortstop Danny Espinosa and third baseman Anthony Rendon, plus two recent free-agent additions, Perez and infielder Stephen Drew. No one in the industry would be surprised if Chen was next. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 36.237.28.192 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/MLB/M.1452264308.A.F2E.html ※ 編輯: centuriontw (36.237.28.192), 01/08/2016 22:54:08

01/08 23:01, , 1F
去了還蠻刺激的,會不會被BS後摔個東西就打起來
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01/08 23:19, , 2F
王都已經找到球隊了 陳勒
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01/08 23:22, , 3F
樓上會去皇家隊版常駐嗎?
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01/08 23:24, , 4F
直到被永桶以前應該會吧
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01/08 23:26, , 5F
查理大一定知道他去年一直在水手隊版搞笑XD
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01/08 23:32, , 6F
水兵人路過,皇家迷準備迎接盛情的pp吧XD
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01/08 23:38, , 7F
乾脆包一起好了 有SP又有CL哪隊要阿^.< 陳偉殷加油~!
01/08 23:38, 7F

01/08 23:38, , 8F
要簽陳應該會先把gio交易吧 但目前有gio要再簽陳就不容
01/08 23:38, 8F

01/08 23:39, , 9F
易 除非像薛澤的約一樣被Boras推銷成功
01/08 23:39, 9F

01/08 23:41, , 10F
陳開那個天價 誰要簽阿,很怕最後沒人要
01/08 23:41, 10F

01/08 23:41, , 11F
薛澤好歹也是賽揚 -.-
01/08 23:41, 11F

01/08 23:42, , 12F
自己先降價 看看前田~
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01/08 23:44, , 13F
國民去年花那麼多錢建立投手王國都沒用了 今年應該不會傻
01/08 23:44, 13F

01/08 23:44, , 14F
了再當凱子
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01/08 23:48, , 15F
拿Scherzer的約來看Chen的約不太正確吧
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01/08 23:50, , 16F
(ˊ_>ˋ)
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01/08 23:51, , 17F
主要是要說國民比較容易被推銷啦XD 但陳一年2000萬真的
01/08 23:51, 17F

01/08 23:51, , 18F
扯 差不多的Kazmir也才那樣而已
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01/08 23:54, , 19F
條子收好了 荷蘭或Perez說不定會受傷
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01/08 23:55, , 20F
合約是波波開的吧
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01/09 00:03, , 21F
國民跟波的關係還不錯 價格應該不會那麼死
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01/09 00:05, , 22F
讓他殺個價,85M/5年也不是很差
01/09 00:05, 22F

01/09 00:53, , 23F
陳偉殷太貴了....如果簽下他的是自己支持的球隊應該會吐血吧
01/09 00:53, 23F

01/09 00:56, , 24F
Gio強多了
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01/09 01:04, , 25F
某pp又出現了,這次換皇家版要傷腦筋了
01/09 01:04, 25F

01/09 01:30, , 26F
交易GIO簽陳根本脫褲子放屁吧 也沒比較強還比較貴
01/09 01:30, 26F

01/09 01:31, , 27F
Gio是強多啦,但又不是說用陳取代Gio,不過是用SP的降
01/09 01:31, 27F

01/09 01:31, , 28F
級換CF的升級罷了~Gio應該可以換到很不錯的CF。
01/09 01:31, 28F

01/09 01:37, , 29F
那直接簽Fowler不是更快
01/09 01:37, 29F

01/09 01:38, , 30F
除非Gio可以換到控制年限長的年輕好CF
01/09 01:38, 30F

01/09 01:43, , 31F
Fowler有想過,但想到他是假CF...
01/09 01:43, 31F

01/09 01:44, , 32F
其實說完的當下才想到Fowler...
01/09 01:44, 32F

01/09 01:55, , 33F
Fowler不是著名的守備黑洞嗎XDD
01/09 01:55, 33F

01/09 01:56, , 34F
不過現在哪隊缺SP又有不錯的CF可以賣?
01/09 01:56, 34F

01/09 02:09, , 35F
交易Gio 簽Chen 多此一舉幹嘛 又沒明顯的補強
01/09 02:09, 35F

01/09 02:22, , 36F
況且真缺CF的話, 國民找回Span成本不是更低嗎?
01/09 02:22, 36F

01/09 02:59, , 37F
西岸還有兩隻能補先發 太空跟天使
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01/09 07:14, , 38F
台灣球迷也太樂觀了吧 依陳的實力絕非無論價格非簽不可
01/09 07:14, 38F

01/09 07:32, , 39F
推 很有可能
01/09 07:32, 39F

01/09 08:23, , 40F
某人感覺倒是挺想看陳沒好約是嗎
01/09 08:23, 40F

01/09 08:53, , 41F
太空人有左手王牌了
01/09 08:53, 41F

01/09 09:33, , 42F
已經1月了,價碼這麼高沒球隊想簽了
01/09 09:33, 42F

01/09 10:08, , 43F
好約沒好約干我屁事 mlb照看 日子照過
01/09 10:08, 43F

01/09 10:16, , 44F
不交易gio 但可以簽Cespedes,也是升級的選項之一
01/09 10:16, 44F

01/09 10:24, , 45F
Chen的實力大家有目共賭,100M/5年本來就是基本行情
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01/09 10:25, , 46F
國民不把錢用來留住添柴小史嗎?
01/09 10:25, 46F

01/09 10:25, , 47F
換Gardner啊 洋基也蠻缺SP的
01/09 10:25, 47F

01/09 10:25, , 48F
複數年合約就是依照他以前的成績和以後會繼續成長而定
01/09 10:25, 48F

01/09 10:26, , 49F
這是很基本的概念, 不知酸民到底在看雖什麼
01/09 10:26, 49F

01/09 10:51, , 50F
最好是基本行情...
01/09 10:51, 50F

01/09 10:56, , 51F
各位觀眾, 見不得人家好的酸民又上勾囉~
01/09 10:56, 51F

01/09 10:58, , 52F
若是基本行情早就被簽走了,科科
01/09 10:58, 52F

01/09 11:00, , 53F
100M 太貴ㄌ
01/09 11:00, 53F

01/09 11:12, , 54F
基本行情…呵呵
01/09 11:12, 54F

01/09 11:14, , 55F
有沒有Leake那張都是個問題了
01/09 11:14, 55F

01/09 11:16, , 56F
簡單講就是沒必要換一個一樣等級但更貴的來增加薪資 除非
01/09 11:16, 56F

01/09 11:16, , 57F
後續有交易 要補OF也是有一些待簽的
01/09 11:16, 57F

01/09 11:22, , 58F
基本行情 wwww
01/09 11:22, 58F

01/09 11:31, , 59F
有消息說Revere換Storen?
01/09 11:31, 59F

01/09 11:33, , 60F
Chen要是白人或許勉強有MLB又要當凱子 但他不是開這麼高
01/09 11:33, 60F

01/09 11:34, , 61F
很難,而且當凱子的球隊也就某部份球隊 小市場也花不下去
01/09 11:34, 61F

01/09 11:35, , 62F
其實Leake那張就已經overpaid了
01/09 11:35, 62F

01/09 11:36, , 63F
只因為Leake就是MLB球隊喜歡那種白人典型款 不然他也
01/09 11:36, 63F

01/09 11:36, , 64F
不值那張
01/09 11:36, 64F

01/09 11:37, , 65F
至於為什麼喜歡白人典型款 我說了又要被桶了
01/09 11:37, 65F

01/09 11:38, , 66F
陳跟Gio哪有一樣等級...,說真的把Gio交易再簽陳大概又
01/09 11:38, 66F

01/09 11:39, , 67F
是Boras去找老闆了吧-_-
01/09 11:39, 67F

01/09 11:39, , 68F
好歹李麥克年輕不少
01/09 11:39, 68F

01/09 11:40, , 69F
Boras應該會越來越難騙錢了 MLB球隊不會傻了讓他一直
01/09 11:40, 69F

01/09 11:40, , 70F
肆虐
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01/09 11:40, , 71F
李麥克厲害的地方是他會忽好忽壞 這才是最強的
01/09 11:40, 71F

01/09 11:53, , 72F
交易完成了 還需要陳嗎?!
01/09 11:53, 72F

01/09 12:44, , 73F
Gio跟陳也不是一個等級
01/09 12:44, 73F

01/09 12:56, , 74F
大樹一簽約 pp又跑出來了喔
01/09 12:56, 74F

01/09 14:06, , 75F
pp rex999 還少一位U大師就三ace了
01/09 14:06, 75F

01/09 14:35, , 76F
三巨頭!
01/09 14:35, 76F

01/09 14:51, , 77F
那 bb bear U大師 綽號是啥? ???
01/09 14:51, 77F

01/09 15:29, , 78F
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01/09 15:37, , 79F
pp rex u蠢 合起來就三酸甘油脂了
01/09 15:37, 79F

01/09 16:51, , 80F
沒人知道陳去國聯的成績怎麼樣 也沒人知道Gio去美聯成績
01/09 16:51, 80F

01/09 16:51, , 81F
怎麼樣 不同聯盟是要比什麼? 陳的成績去國聯一定更好的
01/09 16:51, 81F

01/09 18:04, , 82F
Gio印象是美聯出身的吧 還是我記錯了
01/09 18:04, 82F

01/09 18:12, , 83F
Gio以前是綠帽的
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01/09 18:26, , 84F
酸民最好不要今年被建仔打臉就好笑了
01/09 18:26, 84F

01/09 18:52, , 85F
還打臉哩 去年在水手3A投的甚麼樣子zzz
01/09 18:52, 85F

01/09 18:57, , 86F
各位就無視他就好了…何必跟他認真 笑笑就好
01/09 18:57, 86F

01/09 19:19, , 87F
咱們當然願意被王打臉啊,可是他還有那實力嗎?
01/09 19:19, 87F

01/09 20:10, , 88F
最好去東區打金鳥
01/09 20:10, 88F

01/09 21:11, , 89F
說不知道國美聯會投怎樣,結論又自打臉說會比較好 XD
01/09 21:11, 89F

01/10 10:52, , 90F
期待~~~
01/10 10:52, 90F

01/10 18:08, , 91F
國民當潘仔當然是好事 不過簽陳的話小史和哈波應該會不留一個
01/10 18:08, 91F

01/10 19:06, , 92F
小史跟Harper都不會留 跟簽不簽陳毫無關係
01/10 19:06, 92F
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