[閒聊] Tommy Lasorda認為Kershaw不該拿MVP

看板MLB作者 (席藍)時間11年前 (2014/11/11 16:13), 編輯推噓14(16212)
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http://tinyurl.com/mo3yjnu PHOENIX – Clayton Kershaw stands a good chance of becoming the first National League pitcher to win an MVP award in 46 years when the award is announced on Thursday, but one Dodgers legend doesn’t think he merits it. Hall of Fame manager Tommy Lasorda said he thinks the MVP should be reserved for everyday players. Then again, take it with a grain of salt. Lasorda is 87. He was 41 the last time an NL pitcher, Bob Gibson, took the MVP. “I think pitchers should win the pitching award, the Cy Young Award, but not the MVP, because he only goes out there every four or five games,” Lasorda said in an appearance on SiriusXM’s MLB Network Radio. “The other guys go out there every day and that makes a big difference in that award. I think it should be set that pitchers should not get the Most Valuable Player.” Justin Verlander won the Cy Young and MVP in the American League three years ago, but the last NL pitcher to pull it off was Gibson after his remarkable 1968 season. Kershaw, who went 21-3 with a 1.77 ERA, led all National League players with a 7.5 WAR. The other two finalists are Andrew McCutchen of the Pittsburgh Pirates and Giancarlo Stanton of the Miami Marlins. The NL Cy Young award balloting will be released Wednesday and Kershaw is expected to be a unanimous selection. Clayton Kershaw極有機會成為繼紅雀隊的傳奇投手Bob Gibson在1968年獲得MVP及CYA以來 第一個獲得MVP及CYA兩個獎項的國聯投手(美聯上一個是三年前的Verlander) 但在這同時,道奇隊的前名人堂總教練Tommy Lasorda對此感到相當不以為然 他表示:「我認為投手就該去拿投手的獎項-賽揚獎就夠了,而不該去拿MVP,因為投手 每四~五場比賽才會上一次,其他那些每天上場且對戰局有影響力的人才該來拿這個獎, 我認為應該要設定成投手不能拿MVP才對。」 除了Kershaw外,其他兩位國聯MVP的競爭者是馬林魚隊的Stanton及海盜隊的McCutchen -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 1.169.50.5 ※ 文章網址: http://www.ptt.cc/bbs/MLB/M.1415693615.A.2BD.html

11/11 16:18, , 1F
野手去拿Hank Aaron獎就好啦 拿什麼MVP(大誤)
11/11 16:18, 1F

11/11 16:18, , 2F
FMVP邦神表示:誰說的
11/11 16:18, 2F

11/11 16:21, , 3F
問題是 他有可能一場影響度就大過那些人4~5天的總和
11/11 16:21, 3F

11/11 16:26, , 4F
樓上讓我想到邦神季賽打擊率比部分野手還高...
11/11 16:26, 4F

11/11 16:26, , 5F
沒辦法他例行賽真的太猛 會拿到真的不訝異
11/11 16:26, 5F

11/11 16:32, , 6F
這觀點ㄧ直都在啊!不過大部分人還是認為投手可競爭mvp
11/11 16:32, 6F

11/11 16:38, , 7F
國聯投手還能自己打擊救回自己的比賽 我覺得沒問題
11/11 16:38, 7F

11/11 16:41, , 8F
快點搬出WAR來壓壓驚啊
11/11 16:41, 8F

11/11 16:44, , 9F
當年Pedro有望爭mvp時記得也是類似論點出現
11/11 16:44, 9F

11/11 16:53, , 10F
同樣的邏輯..打者就算能每天上也無法每局上場打
11/11 16:53, 10F

11/11 16:54, , 11F
既然是MVP,就給最有「價值」的選手,何必拘泥投手、打者
11/11 16:54, 11F

11/11 16:59, , 12F
拉索達還在用撥接吧
11/11 16:59, 12F

11/11 16:59, , 13F
擁有一個MVP打者不表示投手不會敬遠;但是一個MVP投手無法
11/11 16:59, 13F

11/11 17:02, , 14F
不為球隊吃下局數而敬遠打者。
11/11 17:02, 14F

11/11 18:05, , 15F
比起投手,DH更難拿MVP
11/11 18:05, 15F

11/11 18:06, , 16F
傳統派的觀點也是說DH不上場防守,貢獻度不足
11/11 18:06, 16F

11/11 18:12, , 17F
多設一個打者專用獎項就好了
11/11 18:12, 17F

11/11 18:31, , 18F
標題殺人= =+
11/11 18:31, 18F

11/11 19:47, , 19F
結論: MVP是選有價值的球員 所以投手這角色位置沒有
11/11 19:47, 19F

11/11 19:48, , 20F
價值
11/11 19:48, 20F

11/11 19:49, , 21F
老教練就是想表達這件事 懂?
11/11 19:49, 21F

11/11 20:39, , 22F
意思就是他認為出賽破百場功勞大過出賽才3X場的...
11/11 20:39, 22F

11/11 23:38, , 23F
老古板一個,他的貢獻海放一票的打者的輸出
11/11 23:38, 23F

11/11 23:43, , 24F
海放一票打者是海放啊 問題是有沒有海放其他candidates
11/11 23:43, 24F

11/11 23:45, , 25F
這個比較重要吧
11/11 23:45, 25F

11/11 23:45, , 26F
他的說法應該要限定MVP finalist比較中聽
11/11 23:45, 26F

11/12 02:02, , 27F
Pedro表示:感同身受
11/12 02:02, 27F

11/12 04:27, , 28F
一個mvp打者敬遠他就好了,一個mvp投手可無法閃躲掉~
11/12 04:27, 28F

11/12 10:50, , 29F
好笑,要這樣至少先修規定
11/12 10:50, 29F

11/13 14:06, , 30F
那closer/reliver 可以拿嗎?
11/13 14:06, 30F
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