[外電] Machado、Trout、Harper

看板MLB作者 (中信魚京云鬼!!)時間11年前 (2013/05/12 22:42), 編輯推噓45(45030)
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Is Manny Machado in the same echelon as Mike Trout and Bryce Harper? MASN’s Steve Melewski argues that Manny Machado should be considered in the same conversation as Mike Trout and Bryce Harper when it comes to the best young players in baseball. The Orioles’ 20-year-old third baseman is off to a fantastic start in 2013, carrying a .314/.356/.503 line through 166 plate appearances. By Baseball Reference WAR, he has been as valuable as Joey Votto and Troy Tulowitzki, among others, which ranks in the top-ten in baseball. 若以WAR來評斷球員,Machado的表現已經能與Votto Tulo這些人相提並論。 Did you know that through the first 84 big league games for each player, that Machado tops both Trout and Harper in batting average, homers, RBIs and doubles? Well, he does, as found by Duquette, who is also heard on MLB Network Radio on Sirius-XM Radio. Here is the comparison: Machado – .284 average, 12 homers, 47 RBIs, 20 doubles. Harper – .258 average, 9 homers, 29 RBIs, 16 doubles. Trout – .282 average, 11 homers, 42 RBIs, 16 doubles. Machado tops the dynamic duo in all four categories. Is there anyone out there that still doesn’t think he belongs in the conversation with Trout and Harper for best young player in baseball? He clearly stacks up with the other two. 三人在MLB的前84場出賽表現相比,Machado完勝鱒魚和Harper http://ppt.cc/sWGy 原文連結還有從許多方面來討論三人的優缺點比較(wOBA、SB、UZR) 有興趣可以參考參考,順便閒聊一下大家對這三位新秀的想法 去年Trout鬼神般的表現搶走Harper的鋒頭,今年Machado也勢如破竹的竄起了! -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 140.112.250.165

05/12 22:44, , 1F
ARod v2.0
05/12 22:44, 1F

05/12 22:45, , 2F
能維持多久還是個大問題
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05/12 22:45, , 3F
守備超棒
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05/12 22:46, , 4F
不過金鶯現在可以用很久的基石真多
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05/12 22:46, , 5F
要是能穩定並適應!!!
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05/12 22:57, , 6F
2A直升大聯盟還沒滿二十一 看他2A成績跟現在 厲害喔
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05/12 22:58, , 7F
希望能維持下去
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05/12 22:58, , 8F
今年壘上有人 打擊率很好
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05/12 22:59, , 9F
灰熊厲害
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05/12 23:06, , 10F
守備 ...
05/12 23:06, 10F

05/12 23:14, , 11F
看A+,2A成績沒屠殺, 可還是照樣直升, 球團心臟蠻大的?
05/12 23:14, 11F

05/12 23:14, , 12F
MANNY~~~~
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05/12 23:23, , 13F
守備滿喜歡閃球側接 一不小心就失誤了..
05/12 23:23, 13F

05/12 23:24, , 14F
給他去守三壘根本浪費
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05/12 23:40, , 15F
側接哪會抖 中職看太多囉
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05/12 23:48, , 16F
他可是很好的SS,側接只是一招起手式
05/12 23:48, 16F

05/12 23:49, , 17F
希望Hardy走之後他可以回SS..
05/12 23:49, 17F

05/12 23:50, , 18F
打棒球都會要求正面接 遇到不規則彈跳的時候至少用身體擋
05/12 23:50, 18F

05/12 23:53, , 19F
很希望他當SS 不過Hardy卡住了..(而且金鳥3B悲劇)
05/12 23:53, 19F

05/12 23:53, , 20F
問題他就側接失誤啊 什麼看中職
05/12 23:53, 20F

05/12 23:56, , 21F
守備算是堪補金鳥的洞了
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05/12 23:59, , 22F
Machado三壘守備率.970 去年聯盟平均.952
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05/12 23:59, , 23F
失誤率比平均低很多...
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05/13 00:00, , 24F
他守備沒有不好 只是本季有個失誤明明可以正面處理卻轉
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05/13 00:00, , 25F
側面 結果球就飛走了
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05/13 00:01, , 26F
Hardy守備也很好阿
05/13 00:01, 26F

05/13 00:01, , 27F
印象中同場有兩球類似都可以正面接 但他都選擇轉側 一球
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05/13 00:01, , 28F
守住一球噴掉失誤
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05/13 00:04, , 29F
你怎知側接是失誤的主因?
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05/13 00:05, , 30F
UZR聯盟第2
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05/13 00:07, , 31F
我只知道他的守備能力 正接一定不至於會漏到後面
05/13 00:07, 31F

05/13 00:08, , 32F
用反手接比較方便重心轉換來傳球
05/13 00:08, 32F

05/13 00:10, , 33F
按照你的說法,他都用正面接的話一堆球根本就會來不及
05/13 00:10, 33F

05/13 00:10, , 34F
抓到,這樣會比較好嗎?
05/13 00:10, 34F

05/13 00:11, , 35F
那球不會來不及啊 好的守備球員會看狀況選擇方式吧? 又
05/13 00:11, 35F

05/13 00:11, , 36F
不是機器人
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05/13 00:12, , 37F
同意賣李 這種細節能加強當然更好 失誤率一定能再下降
05/13 00:12, 37F

05/13 00:13, , 38F
我一直沒有否定他的守備能力 只不過是剛好看到那次失誤
05/13 00:13, 38F

05/13 00:14, , 39F
還有同場另一球也選擇側接 覺得他可以處理的更穩罷了
05/13 00:14, 39F

05/13 00:18, , 40F
有時候就是覺得側身也接的到 結果剛好就失誤啦
05/13 00:18, 40F

05/13 00:19, , 41F
我是覺得不用特別拿出來講啦 不過樓上說的也沒錯啦
05/13 00:19, 41F

05/13 00:19, , 42F
誰不會失誤啊...用不習慣的方式接球才是更容易失誤
05/13 00:19, 42F

05/13 00:19, , 43F
認為用正面接就不會漏掉,這...
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05/13 00:22, , 44F
只因為一次側接印象不好就覺得他側接該改是怎樣
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05/13 00:26, , 45F
感覺這比較偏守備細膩度或經驗直累積的問題
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05/13 00:26, , 46F
他也才22歲阿XD
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05/13 00:44, , 47F
誰說側接不好的? 有些球非側接沒錯 只是簡單不急迫的球
05/13 00:44, 47F

05/13 00:44, , 48F
能正面接不是更穩嗎? 我沒有說他側接全部要改掉啊
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05/13 00:45, , 49F
樓上說的沒錯 他還年輕 我也是期望他能更好 甚至轉SS
05/13 00:45, 49F

05/13 00:50, , 50F
正因為年輕,所以要求他把一個已經很不錯的動作弄到穩
05/13 00:50, 50F

05/13 00:51, , 51F
定才是重要的,一下說可以反手,一下又要求他要視情況
05/13 00:51, 51F

05/13 00:52, , 52F
改變接球的方式,這對一個年輕球員的發展一點也不好
05/13 00:52, 52F

05/13 00:52, , 53F
為什麼你不會覺得他應該要work on的是反手接球的動作
05/13 00:52, 53F

05/13 00:53, , 54F
呢?紮實到幾乎不會失誤的地步
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05/13 01:04, , 55F
好吧要這樣說我也接受 期待他側接練到完美囉
05/13 01:04, 55F

05/13 01:06, , 56F
才22歲是在... 已經夠了不起了 其次有些本來就沒理來由
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05/13 01:06, , 57F
想那樣做啊XD 還那麼年輕
05/13 01:06, 57F

05/13 01:24, , 58F
其實盡量正面是比較日式的作法 側接是美式 都可以囉~
05/13 01:24, 58F

05/13 01:53, , 59F
他不是22,是20XD
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05/13 02:05, , 60F
Sorry key錯
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05/13 03:14, , 61F
中職球評跟教練觀念給人影響有夠深 看到一球不是中規中矩
05/13 03:14, 61F

05/13 03:19, , 62F
處理失誤就要人改動作
05/13 03:19, 62F

05/13 08:39, , 63F
側接其實比較好處理...正面"擋一下"是面對來不及反應的
05/13 08:39, 63F

05/13 08:39, , 64F
強襲球...
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05/13 08:58, , 65F
他debut那一天是陳偉殷日,那天主場送陳偉殷中文T,不過
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05/13 08:59, , 66F
陳一局就被打爆,他變成全場球迷唯一關注的亮點。
05/13 08:59, 66F

05/13 09:04, , 67F
ooXX救世主
05/13 09:04, 67F

05/13 10:37, , 68F
那兩球明明都很強 印象派?
05/13 10:37, 68F

05/13 13:06, , 69F
能笑到最後才是贏家
05/13 13:06, 69F

05/13 16:14, , 70F
正面側面有點古板的想法 不過他的守備率說明了一切
05/13 16:14, 70F

05/13 17:38, , 71F
看守備率.....
05/13 17:38, 71F

05/13 20:19, , 72F
打22的我自首 T^T
05/13 20:19, 72F

05/13 20:43, , 73F
他以前是SS底的,是因為現在Hardy守游擊,才移防三壘!
05/13 20:43, 73F

05/13 22:55, , 74F
他的模板是...A-rod?
05/13 22:55, 74F

12/26 18:10, 5年前 , 75F
樓上說的沒錯 他還年輕 http://yofuk.com
12/26 18:10, 75F
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