[情報] 克服托瑞是美國最大的勝利

看板MLB作者時間11年前 (2013/03/11 17:14), 編輯推噓21(21035)
留言56則, 26人參與, 5年前最新討論串1/1
http://tinyurl.com/a47rcet Four sacrifice bunt attempts in one game. I’d be pretty disgusted if it were the Marlins trying such a thing to beat the Mets in mid-August. But, no, that’s what Team USA did on Sunday on its way to topping Canada 9-4. Technically, it will go into the books at three sacrifice bunt attempts, since Shane Victorino merely fouled back his one attempt before later striking out in the seventh. The first two were successful, the second especially so. The first, coming in the second, was put down by Adam Jones with two on and none out. No runs followed, though. Ben Zobrist‘s bunt in the fourth resulted in a Taylor Green error, scoring a run and opening the door for a two-run inning. The last bunt was a huge flop, with Zobrist popping one up for the first out in the eighth. Fortunately, Jones bailed the team out afterwards, delivering a two-run double to put Team USA on top for good. So, yes, everything worked out in the end. Even though Joe Torre’s team tried to give away four outs. Even though Giancarlo Stanton, the country’s (and maybe the world’s) best power hitter, sat out in favor of Shane Victorino. Even though Torre was more worried about making sure everyone got into the game than trying to win it. And that last part may be the biggest problem of all. Joe Torre works for Major League Baseball. He made commitments to teams in return for acquiring the services of players. While the managers of Japan and the Dominican Republic are doing the best they can, within the WBC’s pitcher usage rules, to win their games, Torre is going above and beyond; making sure everyone gets a turn, not using a reliever after he’s already warmed up once and not letting any of his true relievers pitch more than an inning. Of course, Torre isn’t exactly a tactical genius even when he doesn’t have to deal with such limitations. Witness today’s eighth-inning gem to intentionally walk light-hitting left-hander Pete Orr in a 5-4 game to load the bases for a left-handed-hitting pinch-hitter. Given that it meant a walk could force in a run, I doubt it improved the U.S.’s chances of staying ahead in the eighth. What it definitely did do is guarantee that Joey Votto would bat in the ninth, with Justin Morneau due up fourth, something that might have made a big difference had the U.S. offense not finally found itself and, absent any sac bunt attempts, piled on four runs in the top of the inning. At age 73, this is probably Torre’s last time in a dugout. He was pretty close to a Hall of Famer as a player and he’s certainly going in as a manager after all of his success with the Yankees. And deservedly so. It’d be a nice victory lap for him if Team USA could somehow win the World Baseball Classic in its third try. Torre, though, needs to back off a bit, because he’s really hurting the cause right now. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 140.112.25.133

03/11 17:19, , 1F
前兩屆的毛病這屆這屆還是有, 目前先發最多只投到五局
03/11 17:19, 1F

03/11 17:20, , 2F
如果不是有 Detwiler 頂上來, 很可能真要去打資格賽了
03/11 17:20, 2F

03/11 17:31, , 3F
Phillips那幾個救球救不到的話_____________________
03/11 17:31, 3F

03/11 17:38, , 4F
用打線克服就好 不能得分比蛇都嚴重
03/11 17:38, 4F

03/11 17:40, , 5F
大家一樣都在春訓 沒道理你打擊比人差
03/11 17:40, 5F

03/11 17:43, , 6F
真的,"春訓所以還沒調整好"不知是誰發明的,台灣日本韓
03/11 17:43, 6F

03/11 17:44, , 7F
國還不是一樣,大家的職業聯盟有誰是開季了
03/11 17:44, 7F

03/11 17:57, , 8F
西瓜魂!!
03/11 17:57, 8F

03/11 17:58, , 9F
"春訓所以還沒調整好"根本是世界大笑話 白癡才信
03/11 17:58, 9F

03/11 18:28, , 10F
澳洲表示:我們都季末了也打不贏啊...
03/11 18:28, 10F

03/11 18:35, , 11F
有沒有刻意調整會有差, 美國隊有同等的集訓嗎?
03/11 18:35, 11F

03/11 18:44, , 12F
美國隊有集訓喔 網路上照片等等的採訪畫面
03/11 18:44, 12F

03/11 19:43, , 13F
不過春訓容易受傷倒是真的~~~~~~~~~
03/11 19:43, 13F

03/11 19:45, , 14F
古巴好像是季中
03/11 19:45, 14F

03/11 20:00, , 15F
美國隊的「集訓」總共只有五天...
03/11 20:00, 15F

03/11 20:01, , 16F
古巴好像沒有所謂的球季結束
03/11 20:01, 16F

03/11 20:13, , 17F
古巴球員比大聯盟健康的樣子 162場終究還是太多了?
03/11 20:13, 17F

03/11 20:16, , 18F
古巴資料有點難找XD
03/11 20:16, 18F

03/11 20:21, , 19F
Maels Rodríguez就是在古巴被玩爛的阿
03/11 20:21, 19F

03/11 20:54, , 20F
集訓五天 默契夠練嗎 狀況夠時間掌握嗎
03/11 20:54, 20F

03/11 21:25, , 21F
美國隊集訓5天 MLB則是2/23春訓開始 台灣隊2/6就開始集訓
03/11 21:25, 21F

03/11 21:25, , 22F
本來就是這個時間大家都不在最佳狀態
03/11 21:25, 22F

03/11 21:25, , 23F
哪有什麼笑不笑話
03/11 21:25, 23F

03/11 21:26, , 24F
可能美國有精神時光屋所以有人覺得差不多
03/11 21:26, 24F

03/11 22:08, , 25F
咦?不是有嗎?
03/11 22:08, 25F

03/11 22:52, , 26F
日本:唉唉 美國說得沒錯 這時間狀況很差 害我們不能全勝冠軍
03/11 22:52, 26F

03/11 23:01, , 27F
提早準備對 WBC 有用... 但是太認真的季賽十之八九都烙賽
03/11 23:01, 27F

03/11 23:18, , 28F
太早準備根本就打亂長久以來的生理時鐘 球季後打差機率偏高
03/11 23:18, 28F

03/11 23:43, , 29F
越高強度的運動比賽時間一打亂對選手來說根本是惡夢
03/11 23:43, 29F

03/11 23:44, , 30F
舉例:有網球選手砲轟說ATP比賽時間太近了 容易受傷
03/11 23:44, 30F

03/12 01:17, , 31F
NPB真的是太血汗了 ^ ^
03/12 01:17, 31F

03/12 02:58, , 32F
春訓本來就有影響 尤其對投手更明顯 歷年許多投手春訓都
03/12 02:58, 32F

03/12 02:59, , 33F
爆很大 進入賽季就正常 我看出來哪裡沒影響
03/12 02:59, 33F

03/12 03:01, , 34F
前面說春訓沒影響的我才覺得不可思議
03/12 03:01, 34F

03/12 07:57, , 35F
所以對日本等其他國都該有影響吧,既然如此就不用拿出
03/12 07:57, 35F

03/12 07:58, , 36F
來講了,還不是打不贏才這樣講
03/12 07:58, 36F

03/12 07:59, , 37F
另外說生理時鐘的是鍵盤運動科學研究員嗎,那我看美國男
03/12 07:59, 37F

03/12 07:59, , 38F
籃去打奧運真是拿職業生涯開玩笑
03/12 07:59, 38F

03/12 08:49, , 39F
樓上似乎很替日職抱屈,不過說真的短期賽事的勝負本來
03/12 08:49, 39F

03/12 08:50, , 40F
就不必太計較,畢竟這其中包含了一定的運氣成分。
03/12 08:50, 40F

03/12 08:50, , 41F
短期比賽勝負本來就很難論定
03/12 08:50, 41F

03/12 08:51, , 42F
日本連兩屆WBC冠軍,相信沒人說日職不強,但日職平均
03/12 08:51, 42F

03/12 08:52, , 43F
水準比不上MLB也是事實阿...
03/12 08:52, 43F

03/12 08:53, , 44F
再說前面幾樓說的是集訓對整體球隊調整狀況的影響,
03/12 08:53, 44F

03/12 08:53, , 45F
美國隊只集訓5天,日本則是從2月中旬開始,台灣是2/6
03/12 08:53, 45F

03/12 08:55, , 46F
這本來就會有一定程度的差別,也不是你說的死不認輸。
03/12 08:55, 46F

03/12 10:09, , 47F
別誤會,我根本沒在看日職。 你說到一個重點了,要講也
03/12 10:09, 47F

03/12 10:09, , 48F
是講集訓時間,而不是講"還在春訓"。 因為大家都"還在
03/12 10:09, 48F

03/12 10:10, , 49F
春訓",不同的是集訓時間。 這也算是對於賽事的重視程度
03/12 10:10, 49F

03/12 10:10, , 50F
吧,個人決定個人擔,也沒什麼。
03/12 10:10, 50F

03/12 10:39, , 51F
美日職棒春訓起始強度是有差的 以投手為例 美職用球數
03/12 10:39, 51F

03/12 10:41, , 52F
比日職嚴苛許多 這點松版大輔在紅襪時就抱怨過了 如果這
03/12 10:41, 52F

03/12 10:42, , 53F
這才打幾場的比賽...根本不需要去找理由和原因
03/12 10:42, 53F

03/12 10:43, , 54F
還要說都有春訓沒差 我也不知道該怎麼說了
03/12 10:43, 54F

03/12 13:04, , 55F
美國隊是打擊問題比較大 投手還好
03/12 13:04, 55F

12/26 18:01, 5年前 , 56F
前面說春訓沒影響的我才 https://daxiv.com
12/26 18:01, 56F
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