Re: Mariners Acquire Morse In Three-Team Deal

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※ 引述《alex710707 (#12WvKThD 水準???)》之銘言: : http://0rz.tw/peUe8 : The Mariners, Nationals and Athletics have combined on a three-team trade : that will send Michael Morse to the Mariners, John Jaso to the A's and : right-hander A.J. Cole to the Nats, Adam Kilgore of the Washington Post : reports. The Nationals will also receive a player to be named later and a : "good" prospect as part of the trade, reports Amanda Comak of the Washington : Times, with Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports adding that the PTBNL will come : from the A's (both links are to Twitter). http://tinyurl.com/ad3gspk From the perspective of the Nationals -- win. They get Cole, a potential frontline starter within a few years of the majors and two unnamed prospects that could be players to be named later. 國民得到潛力新秀Cole 賺了 From the A's point of view, I don't really get it, entirely. Jaso can hit, but he's a part-time player and a below-average defender. They have George Kottaras, a very similar hitter to Jaso, so perhaps there is more to this deal than we know just yet. 運動家不知道在幹嘛 他們已經有型態類似的Kottaras 所以或許還有其他後續動作 For the Mariners, if the swap remains Jaso-for-Morse and nothing more coming in or going out, the club has essentially traded a 50 percent of a solid bat for 80 percent of an equally solid bat. 水手把50% solid的棒子進化成80% solid的棒子 Jaso cannot hit left-handed pitching. Period. This is why he managed just 361 plate appearances in 2012. He posted a .119/.250/.143 triple-slash against southpaws a year ago -- yes, .119 batting average, .143 slugging. He's a 40 catcher on the 20-80 scale and brings limited value on the bases. He was very good at the plate overall in '12, leading to a 2.7 fWAR. Jaso不能打左投也不能防守 Morse was once thought be to a platoon type, too, and at times struggles against right-handed pitching, but he possesses above-average power and that has carried over the past three years to right-handers, too. Morse cannot play the outfield and is merely passable in short stints at third base, suggesting all of his value will come at the plate. Make no mistake, however -- Morse is better than Jaso. Morse比Jaso好 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 140.112.25.133

01/17 10:02, , 1F
可是Morse要去很塞的外野= =
01/17 10:02, 1F

01/17 10:04, , 2F
這沒好講的,Morse一定要站外野這交易才有意義
01/17 10:04, 2F

01/17 10:05, , 3F
或是跟K-MO輪站LF/DH
01/17 10:05, 3F

01/17 10:10, , 4F
請問水兵的1B是?
01/17 10:10, 4F

01/17 10:11, , 5F
斯摩格中將跟K-MO輪流站1B
01/17 10:11, 5F

01/17 10:12, , 6F
那Morse只能去輪LF/DH的理由是?
01/17 10:12, 6F

01/17 10:16, , 7F
因為要讓他能上場,才有打擊的價值
01/17 10:16, 7F

01/17 10:17, , 8F
水手不是還簽了Jason Bay 要他守右外野嗎
01/17 10:17, 8F

01/17 10:18, , 9F
還有性質跟Morse類似的老吳
01/17 10:18, 9F

01/17 10:19, , 10F
運動家把Kottaras DFA了
01/17 10:19, 10F

01/17 10:20, , 11F
OAK的Norris不是捕得不錯? 怎麼又找捕手...
01/17 10:20, 11F

01/17 10:22, , 12F
要讓他能上場才有打擊的價值?
01/17 10:22, 12F

01/17 10:23, , 13F
有DFA嗎? 不是才剛簽一年避免仲裁?
01/17 10:23, 13F

01/17 10:23, , 14F
Ibanez...看一下Morse、Ibanez跟Smoke三個人的成績好嗎?
01/17 10:23, 14F

01/17 10:25, , 15F
C/1B/DH/LF從Jaso/Smoke/Montero/K-Mo變成
01/17 10:25, 15F

01/17 10:26, , 16F
Montero/Morse/K-Mo/whoever不好嗎?Smoak是憑什麼讓人對
01/17 10:26, 16F

01/17 10:26, , 17F
 他那麼有信心啊?
01/17 10:26, 17F

01/17 10:27, , 18F
http://tinyurl.com/adu9gqb Kottaras被綠帽DFA了
01/17 10:27, 18F

01/17 10:29, , 19F
水兵送走了Jaso,現在是沒有二號捕手的
01/17 10:29, 19F

01/17 10:36, , 20F
那Smoak就不練了嗎= =?
01/17 10:36, 20F

01/17 10:36, , 21F
Smoak憑他去年九月338/414/584的三圍就夠了
01/17 10:36, 21F

01/17 10:37, , 22F
耶穌不大可能變成主戰C吧?
01/17 10:37, 22F

01/17 10:37, , 23F
另外尼克楊你的whoever剛好可以放Mike Zunino
01/17 10:37, 23F

01/17 10:37, , 24F
在他上來之前,這個時間就會是Smoak的
01/17 10:37, 24F

01/17 10:38, , 25F
SMOAK轉眼間都快1500PA了..OPS+還是不到100...
01/17 10:38, 25F

01/17 10:43, , 26F
水兵補了 K Morales跟M Morse 外野人多 Justin Smoak
01/17 10:43, 26F

01/17 10:44, , 27F
該不會即將被交易吧??
01/17 10:44, 27F

01/17 10:44, , 28F
K-Mo 是1B/DH
01/17 10:44, 28F

01/17 10:55, , 29F
一票DH外加傷痛技能
01/17 10:55, 29F

01/17 10:58, , 30F
Justin Smoak....跟James Loney在同一個水準上
01/17 10:58, 30F

01/17 11:14, , 31F
我覺得多一個Ibanez和現在的Bay 好像沒什麼理由擔心太擠
01/17 11:14, 31F

01/17 11:21, , 32F
我們又不是馬上要衝擊季後賽或爭冠熱門 Smoak不練擺在那要
01/17 11:21, 32F

01/17 11:21, , 33F
幹嘛?
01/17 11:21, 33F

01/17 11:24, , 34F
Cole 是去年國民換g剛的主菜之一嗎?
01/17 11:24, 34F

01/17 11:26, , 35F
Smoak還有希望 Loney沒救了 還是有差別
01/17 11:26, 35F

01/17 11:27, , 36F
Smoak是不練白不練 農場那幾個還沒辦法立刻上 還能給他再
01/17 11:27, 36F

01/17 11:28, , 37F
一年的時間來看他是會提升還是墜毀
01/17 11:28, 37F

01/17 12:05, , 38F
Montero不會是主戰C,結果還繼續在捕手這環挖洞,光這點就
01/17 12:05, 38F

01/17 12:06, , 39F
可以證明這個交易對水手來說有多蠢了,更別提Morse只剩1年
01/17 12:06, 39F
還有 253 則推文
01/18 03:15, , 293F
補手ERA XD你去google一下人家是怎麼電這東西的
01/18 03:15, 293F

01/18 03:16, , 294F
誰要你讓Morse站外野?對smoak這麼有愛是因為聖衣嗎
01/18 03:16, 294F

01/18 03:16, , 295F
當然看成績我會說Morse打擊比較強, 但Jaso比較健康, 還
01/18 03:16, 295F

01/18 03:17, , 296F
那誰又要Jaso站C了? 你提到Morse不提守備又狂電Jaso的蹲
01/18 03:17, 296F

01/18 03:18, , 297F
他才幾個PA?幾歲?守哪?我都搞不懂聖衣到底是要把人變
01/18 03:18, 297F

01/18 03:18, , 298F
捕, 這是什麼標準? 拿Morse的打擊電Jaso的守備你是要討
01/18 03:18, 298F

01/18 03:19, , 299F
潛力棒還是safeo proven了。
01/18 03:19, 299F

01/18 03:19, , 300F
論什麼? 然後貶低Jaso到一文不值的用意在哪裡?
01/18 03:19, 300F

01/18 03:20, , 301F
你覺得是有人要給Jaso全職DH喔?醒醒吧
01/18 03:20, 301F

01/18 03:21, , 302F
Jaso不是一文不值,只是沒有穿上聖衣這麼好,更沒有CERA
01/18 03:21, 302F

01/18 03:21, , 303F
那個...Jaso不站C要站哪裡?XD
01/18 03:21, 303F

01/18 03:21, , 304F
看起來的這麼好
01/18 03:21, 304F

01/18 03:22, , 305F
但說真的雖然打數不多,但Jaso可以在Safeco生存應該沒問題
01/18 03:22, 305F

01/18 03:23, , 306F
生存歸生存,他的生涯很難長
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01/18 03:24, , 307F
你說這比交易水兵可有可無ok,說虧不是太愛jaso就是太愛sm
01/18 03:24, 307F

01/18 03:25, , 308F
這沒辦法,畢竟29歲才break out;不過捕手的生涯應該可以
01/18 03:25, 308F

01/18 03:25, , 309F
長一點啦,就之後到處打工這樣。
01/18 03:25, 309F

01/18 03:26, , 310F
Jaso很得西雅圖球迷的緣啊,而事實上成績也沒有到無法支持
01/18 03:26, 310F

01/18 03:27, , 311F
球迷愛的地步,又被Wedge冰。Smoak我傾向再給他最後機會
01/18 03:27, 311F

01/18 03:28, , 312F
簡單來說這筆交易真的有點狗急跳牆,我們沒那個需求去追
01/18 03:28, 312F

01/18 03:28, , 313F
Morse來打工一年,然後就為了開季看打序變比較爽 XD
01/18 03:28, 313F

01/18 03:29, , 314F
Smoak可以拿去騙Salty....XD
01/18 03:29, 314F

01/18 04:02, , 315F
捕手生涯長都是防守型的當二號,Jaso只能當完全不能守的
01/18 04:02, 315F

01/18 04:04, , 316F
左代打,現在還能勉強蹲,越老越難
01/18 04:04, 316F

01/18 04:05, , 317F
何況他是不是真的能打還有疑問
01/18 04:05, 317F

01/18 04:15, , 318F
其實我不太曉得為什麼會用狗急跳牆來形容這個交易...
01/18 04:15, 318F

01/18 04:16, , 319F
這年頭有兩張外卡,一個中規中矩的打線,如果農場的sp能在
01/18 04:16, 319F

01/18 04:17, , 320F
6月之前在mlb投出一定程度,那基本上就有機會搶外卡衝季後
01/18 04:17, 320F

01/18 04:19, , 321F
賽,如果跟預期有落差,K-mo/Morse甚至Smoak都可以拿去交通
01/18 04:19, 321F

01/18 04:20, , 322F
交易換東西回來,進可攻退可守...
01/18 04:20, 322F

01/18 04:20, , 323F
更何況這個嚐試的代價也還ok,就是花了些錢,和丟了Jaso
01/18 04:20, 323F

01/18 04:22, , 324F
農場什麼也沒損失,如果真的季中或季末想做什麼大交易...
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01/18 04:23, , 325F
空間也很大,有無限的可能性,就大方向來說,我覺得很不錯啊
01/18 04:23, 325F

01/18 06:43, , 326F
整個冬天Z就是要搶棒子但一直被打槍,特別是Upton交易失敗
01/18 06:43, 326F

01/18 06:45, , 327F
之後,看到有棒子的半個OF就換了,我說的狗急跳牆是指Z好
01/18 06:45, 327F

01/18 06:46, , 328F
像不做什麼就無法證明自己認真的樣子,當然也有一說是Z很
01/18 06:46, 328F

01/18 06:47, , 329F
早就有跟國民在談交易砲手。加入Morse之後對於水手衝擊季
01/18 06:47, 329F

01/18 06:49, , 330F
後賽的機率加分不大。不過事後想想,其實這交易也沒有第一
01/18 06:49, 330F

01/18 06:49, , 331F
時間感覺地那麼糟啦,認同上述tunababy的看法。
01/18 06:49, 331F

11/02 08:14, , 332F
Jaso也不能當主戰C https://daxiv.com
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