Re: [情報] FA合約大預測

看板MLB作者 (lks)時間13年前 (2012/11/07 19:18), 編輯推噓18(18041)
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※ 引述《abc12812 ()》之銘言: : http://tinyurl.com/a9p6z9x : 1. Zack Greinke, SP. With a potential bidding war between two big-market : crosstown rivals (the two L.A.'s), he stands to be the big winner. My expert : has him No. 1, and I agree. Expert: $147 million, 6 years. Me: $150 million, : 6 years. Age:28 29-34 15-5 212.1IP 3.48ERA ERA+:114 Whip:1.196 WAR:3.3 價值相近合約 CC Sabathia 161M/7yrs .合約年 ERA+:156 成績相近合約 John Lackey 85M/5yrs 合約年ERA+:115 : 2. Josh Hamilton, OF. One of the more interesting markets in years. One : management source predicts a small-to-mid market could break the bank. I : could see Milwaukee, whether it be the US Bank (Brewers GM Doug Melvin joked : they might need that particular bank), or whatever bank. Expert: $137 : million, 5 years. Me: $140 million, 6 years. Age:31 32-37 285/354/577 OPS:0.930 OPS+:139 WAR:3.4 價值相近合約 Adrian Gonzalez 154M/7yrs OPS+:155 : 3. Michael Bourn, OF. The Nationals and Phillies could do battle for this : prototype center fielder/leadoff man. Expert: $83 million, 5 years. Me: $80 : million, 5 years. Age 29 30-34 274/348/391 OPS:0.739 OPS+:99 WAR:6.0 光靠賣手套能賣80/5yrs?? 看看上面那一張.再看看下面那一張... 相近合約 Matt Holliday 120M/7yrs OPS+:140 PS.特殊標的 Carl Crawford 142M/7yrs OPS+:135 : 4. B.J. Upton, OF. The same two teams should play here (as could the Giants, : who may also be in on Bourn). Expert: $70 million, 5 years. Me: $65 million, : 5 years. Age 27 28-32 246/298/454 OPS:.752 OPS+:109 WAR:2.6 : 5. Nick Swisher, OF. Regular-season numbers aren't far off those of Jayson : Werth, who got $126 million for seven years. But how much with defense and : October matter? Expert: $67 million, five years. Me: $39 million, three years. Age 31 32-35 272/364/473 OPS:828 OPS+:126 WAR:3.5 : 6. Anibal Sanchez, SP. Very good postseason should help. Incumbent Tigers : have said they be will be in mix. Expert: $65 million, 5 years. Me: $70 : million, 5 years. Age 28 29-33 9-13 195.2 IP 3.86ERA ERA+:105 Whip:1.267 WAR:2.6 : 7. Kyle Lohse, SP. Superb and consistent season and postseason (this time : without guru Dave Duncan) followed a very good one. Expert: $64 million, 4 : years. Me: $70 million, 4 years. Age 33 34-37 16-3 211 IP 2.86ERA ERA+:143 Whip:1.090 WAR:3.9 PS 除本季外.單季最高ERA+112.生涯平均:97 從這份文章中的交易細項看起來 2012季外就是個敲潘仔季外 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 114.137.239.69

11/07 19:31, , 1F
真的 ...
11/07 19:31, 1F

11/07 19:34, , 2F
美金一年不如一年
11/07 19:34, 2F

11/07 19:36, , 3F
QE3之後搞不好會越來越嚴重 lol
11/07 19:36, 3F

11/07 19:40, , 4F
發球機 0.0
11/07 19:40, 4F

11/07 19:54, , 5F
感覺真的是騙錢的...
11/07 19:54, 5F

11/07 20:06, , 6F
我覺得這預測太樂觀了
11/07 20:06, 6F

11/07 20:09, , 7F
看經紀人的手腕囉
11/07 20:09, 7F

11/07 21:38, , 8F
都是柏南克害的啦 錢都不值錢了 去
11/07 21:38, 8F

11/07 21:49, , 9F
推這個比較
11/07 21:49, 9F

11/07 22:28, , 10F
John Lackey也算特殊標
11/07 22:28, 10F

11/07 23:09, , 11F
Lackey那張剛好而已吧
11/07 23:09, 11F

11/07 23:09, , 12F
簽約後會鳥成這樣又沒有水晶球可以預測
11/07 23:09, 12F

11/07 23:17, , 13F
發球機那張.論真說是正常價.就是之後太離譜
11/07 23:17, 13F

11/07 23:20, , 14F
論真說就是比正常價略高但還在合理範圍內
11/07 23:20, 14F

11/07 23:20, , 15F
但是這傢伙簽約後手就開始痛 而且為了合約又隱瞞傷勢
11/07 23:20, 15F

11/07 23:20, , 16F
最後就發球機->TJ去
11/07 23:20, 16F

11/07 23:22, , 17F
倒是現在ZG這個標價.可以期待是下一個超越發球機的人才
11/07 23:22, 17F

11/07 23:24, , 18F
ZG的stuff真正爆出來的也就一季
11/07 23:24, 18F

11/07 23:24, , 19F
這倒不一定 發球機的問題是藏傷
11/07 23:24, 19F

11/07 23:27, , 20F
ZG精神也不是100%OK.時不時社交恐懼的傳聞還是會浮出來
11/07 23:27, 20F

11/07 23:32, , 21F
這樣說的話Crawford那張也還好阿
11/07 23:32, 21F

11/07 23:33, , 22F
以他合約年還有之前的表現 頂多貴一點點而已
11/07 23:33, 22F

11/07 23:33, , 23F
為啥Lackey正常 Crawford就特殊?
11/07 23:33, 23F

11/07 23:35, , 24F
成績比他明顯好的Matt拿17M/yrs.而CC是20M+/yrs
11/07 23:35, 24F

11/07 23:36, , 25F
而Lackey那等級的SP在15M-17M看年限之間都很正常
11/07 23:36, 25F

11/07 23:37, , 26F
這不奇怪嗎@@.CC顯然比市場行情高出20%
11/07 23:37, 26F

11/07 23:42, , 27F
20%? 你這數字哪來的? 打擊輸一點 但是壘包上的破壞力
11/07 23:42, 27F

11/07 23:43, , 28F
Crawford根本完勝 一個OPS13x+ 還有長腿
11/07 23:43, 28F

11/07 23:43, , 29F
更何況合約年的時候 Crawford的長打還有長出來的趨勢
11/07 23:43, 29F

11/07 23:44, , 30F
那張合約頂多overpaid一點
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11/07 23:45, , 31F
而且CC是去NYY又是左投 本來就價格會高出不少
11/07 23:45, 31F

11/07 23:52, , 32F
是Overpaid沒錯.但是看你覺得那一點有多大點
11/07 23:52, 32F

11/07 23:53, , 33F
我只能說CC在最重要的時刻打出最好的成績.為他掙到這份約
11/07 23:53, 33F

11/07 23:56, , 34F
Crawford只有在合約年打出好成績???
11/07 23:56, 34F

11/07 23:58, , 35F
Crawford確實只有在合約年打出生涯最高的ops+135
11/07 23:58, 35F

11/08 00:00, , 36F
Crawford的OPS+是生涯年最高沒錯 但他的盜壘不是
11/08 00:00, 36F

11/08 00:00, , 37F
合約年的前幾年看起來就是OPS+115左右而已
11/08 00:00, 37F

11/08 00:01, , 38F
OPS+可沒把盜壘算進去
11/08 00:01, 38F

11/08 00:01, , 39F
Crawford一年差不多平均可以有50盜耶
11/08 00:01, 39F

11/08 00:02, , 40F
雖然腿哥的腿是滿容易退化的沒錯,不過這也是他價值吧
11/08 00:02, 40F

11/08 00:02, , 41F
當然是要加上防守跟跑壘 不然OPS+ 115哪有可能拿這麼大約
11/08 00:02, 41F

11/08 00:03, , 42F
加上這些Crawford那張合約頂多貴一點而已
11/08 00:03, 42F

11/08 00:03, , 43F
只能說合約年打的好幫助他這張約很大
11/08 00:03, 43F

11/08 00:03, , 44F
合約年Crawford的盜壘數連他生涯前5都排不進去
11/08 00:03, 44F

11/08 00:04, , 45F
他那年紀配上現在FA情況 簽七年確實是剛好而已
11/08 00:04, 45F

11/08 00:04, , 46F
其實我原本以為Crawford是break out, 到Fenway會30轟的..
11/08 00:04, 46F

11/08 00:05, , 47F
不過對照Holliday長年穩定的OPS+140簽的那張
11/08 00:05, 47F

11/08 00:06, , 48F
Crawford那張宣佈時應該很多人感到很神奇
11/08 00:06, 48F

11/08 00:12, , 49F
忘記誰說過的 給我25個合約年的球員 我就給你冠軍
11/08 00:12, 49F

11/08 00:13, , 50F
等等Fenway的RF比較遼闊.比較難轟吧...
11/08 00:13, 50F

11/08 00:14, , 51F
何況這種合約年才爆的成績本身就要打很多折扣
11/08 00:14, 51F

11/08 00:15, , 52F
期待這會變成"常態".那鐵定是常常被婊的GM
11/08 00:15, 52F

11/08 00:24, , 53F
從紅襪讓他去守守備再好也沒啥用的綠怪時這張虧的機率就很
11/08 00:24, 53F

11/08 00:24, , 54F
大了 但是打這麼鳥還受傷就真的是衰洨了
11/08 00:24, 54F

11/08 02:00, , 55F
拜託 哪有人只看平均的... 今年打得好有加分阿!
11/08 02:00, 55F

11/08 12:15, , 56F
不看平均都只看合約年 你都不用怕簽到假貨就對了
11/08 12:15, 56F

11/08 17:36, , 57F
20M的腿哥叫只貴一點點? 他的優勢就是腿和手套 先不說
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11/08 17:37, , 58F
簽那麼長 腿不知道會退化成怎樣 他守Fenway綠色怪物要
11/08 17:37, 58F

11/02 07:51, , 59F
那張合約頂多overp https://noxiv.com
11/02 07:51, 59F
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