[討論] Chen Wei-Yin Scouting Report

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http://orioles-nation.com/2011/12/13/chen-wei-yin-scouting-report/ 這是在金鳥網站上的Scouting Report，加減看看吧。 Editor’s Note: Earlier today, news broke that the Orioles were “working hard“ to get a deal done with Japanese pitcher Chen Wei-Yin. Don published a scouting report in a previous post, but I wanted to post this on its own, too. Chen Wei-Yin has a game that has slowly built on command and locating pitches. He shows the ability to throw a curveball, splitter/forkball, change up, and a fastball that will likely sit in the 89-90 mph range in the major leagues. Mechanically, Wei-Yin shows little to no issues that would pose injury issues in the future. His fastball showed some movement when I saw him in 2009 and something the reports say wavers back and forth; at its best it has late action that is tough to square up on. He shows pitchability and works the entire plate, and both sides equally against right handed and left handed batting. Mechanically, he shows little to no issues that would pose command or injury issues in the future. He requires no posting fee to sign and will not command nearly as large of a contract as his counterparts. He is left handed and could be a useful bullpen pitcher if the starter role does not fit well. Compensation would justify moving him to the bullpen similarly to Koji Uehara. Other teams might strictly indicate he is a bullpen arm and a team willing to give him a shot in the rotation might have a leg up in signing him. Wei-Yin does a poor job hiding the ball in his delivery and it might pose a problem against quality hitting that can sit on the off-speed stuff and still catch up to his offerings. He needs his pitches to move constantly because his stuff cannot live with straight as an arrow life. I witnessed a lot of the ball riding high in the zone a few years back and he cannot live in that fashion and have success in an AL park, even though recent reports indicate he is working lower in the zone on a constant basis. Wei-Yin faces the same uphill battles as every other Asian pitcher making his way from the NPB. 沒講到什麼，倒是老米不覺得他丟的是滑球...XD -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 114.38.163.40
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12/16 15:49, , 1F
為什麼他是Jananese Pitcher
12/16 15:49, 1F
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12/16 15:53, , 2F
評價不怎麼高的說0.0
12/16 15:53, 2F
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12/16 15:55, , 3F
介於後段先發和牛棚之間，健康會丟很多種球，控球ok
12/16 15:55, 3F
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12/16 15:56, , 4F
出手隱藏做的很爛，stuff不夠好所以如果直球沒跑就死定了
12/16 15:56, 4F
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12/16 15:56, , 5F
(簡略懶人翻譯)
12/16 15:56, 5F
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12/16 15:57, , 6F
所以還是留在日本好？
12/16 15:57, 6F
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12/16 15:58, , 7F
他的變化球哭哭啊..
12/16 15:58, 7F
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12/16 15:58, , 8F
如果我不認識這個投手 看完這篇興趣不會太高XD
12/16 15:58, 8F
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12/16 16:00, , 9F
情況愈來愈不利...
12/16 16:00, 9F
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12/16 16:00, , 10F
Poor job hiding不過會控球的左投有飯吃啦..XD
12/16 16:00, 10F
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12/16 16:01, , 11F
也不用這麼悲觀，有人認為他可以拿20M/4Y，
12/16 16:01, 11F
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12/16 16:03, , 12F
比照這兩年日職頂尖的成績這評價真的有點慘，除了手臂很健康
12/16 16:03, 12F
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12/16 16:04, , 13F
日職球隊王牌一班大多被當4.5號 其實這就是兩邊的差距
12/16 16:04, 13F
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12/16 16:04, , 14F
外幾乎要被講得一無是處了，不過至少有後段輪值的機會，
12/16 16:04, 14F
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12/16 16:04, , 15F
對照當初我覺得比他強的鄭錡鴻，至少被認為是大聯盟等級的了
12/16 16:04, 15F
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12/16 16:06, , 16F
一人一顆大聯盟球路啊 鄭的快速球也沒大聯盟平均等級啊
12/16 16:06, 16F
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12/16 16:08, , 17F
台灣上大聯盟的除了曹 都碼是直球系拼到底
12/16 16:08, 17F
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12/16 16:09, , 18F
NPB SP轉MLB真的扛的OK的大概就KURODA一個，能被評為
12/16 16:09, 18F
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12/16 16:10, , 19F
可以進輪值的其實是蠻高的期望了我覺得..XD
12/16 16:10, 19F
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12/16 16:12, , 20F
想一想應該說 雖然台灣投手從小就練變化球
12/16 16:12, 20F
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12/16 16:13, , 21F
但到高階還能拿出來用的居指可數啊
12/16 16:13, 21F
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12/16 16:14, , 22F
npb 轉職活下來的松坂可以算半個，還有隱藏人物 Colby Lewis
12/16 16:14, 22F
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12/16 16:15, , 23F
野茂也算 雖然很久了
12/16 16:15, 23F
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12/16 16:16, , 24F
標準太高了吧 石井.大家.吉井這種是不強 但起碼撐住輪值
12/16 16:16, 24F
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12/16 16:21, , 25F
黑田被遺忘了 哭哭
12/16 16:21, 25F
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12/16 16:22, , 26F
Ohka那種是丟兩年OK後來不太行阿，稱職的3~4真的少。
12/16 16:22, 26F
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12/16 16:23, , 27F
其實真的日職去還是固定SP的只有黑田
12/16 16:23, 27F
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12/16 16:24, , 28F
陳偉殷在MLB也是SP大概是後段吧
12/16 16:24, 28F
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12/16 16:24, , 29F
結果最後變成Closer XD
12/16 16:24, 29F
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12/16 16:24, , 30F
要是按照Report的期望其實就非常強了。
12/16 16:24, 30F
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12/16 16:27, , 31F
不然仔細想想各隊1~2到底會是什麼人物..XD
12/16 16:27, 31F
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12/16 17:10, , 32F
之前記者推的4y20m 差不多就是後段輪值的價碼啊...
12/16 17:10, 32F
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12/16 17:28, , 33F
主因是之前去的選手去的時候年齡多半偏高 轉後援比較好用
12/16 17:28, 33F
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12/16 17:29, , 34F
4Y 20M是三號的價碼
12/16 17:29, 34F
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12/16 17:30, , 35F
現在三號沒那麼便宜吧...........
12/16 17:30, 35F
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12/16 17:33, , 36F
AJ 現在當5號 千萬年薪
12/16 17:33, 36F
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12/16 17:34, , 37F
AJ算好的哩 發球機才是強者。
12/16 17:34, 37F
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12/16 17:34, , 38F
一般的5號1年都不一定有5M了 何況是4年約
12/16 17:34, 38F
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12/16 17:34, , 39F
AJ當初是2.3號的標準去看的吧...
12/16 17:34, 39F
還有 24 則推文
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12/16 19:58, , 64F
20M/4Y太扯，和田毅今年的成績這樣也只有2年8M....
12/16 19:58, 64F
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12/16 20:00, , 65F
如果藍鳥出價48~50M還翻船 那成交價恐怕要55~60M了..
12/16 20:00, 65F
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12/16 20:01, , 66F
而且陳偉殷怎麼會是無傷病....愛國也不是這樣吧
12/16 20:01, 66F
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12/16 20:03, , 67F
希望能爭取好合約 如果回日本大概只能拿到1年2M左右
12/16 20:03, 67F
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12/16 20:03, , 68F
之前骨折過，今年還因為受傷到5月才登板...
12/16 20:03, 68F
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12/16 20:03, , 69F
是要愛那一國阿..XD
12/16 20:03, 69F
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12/16 20:05, , 70F
外電講的東西是要愛那一國我請問...XD
12/16 20:05, 70F
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12/16 20:06, , 71F
我說樓上有人覺得這種拿20m/4y 沒很過份的
12/16 20:06, 71F
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12/16 20:07, , 72F
個人感覺陳偉殷是還有成長空間，不過要看老美的教練功力了
12/16 20:07, 72F
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12/16 20:09, , 73F
是沒很過份阿，他開刀也是五年前的事情。
12/16 20:09, 73F
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12/16 20:10, , 74F
這幾年下來的投球量相較於其他NPB ACE算OK的。
12/16 20:10, 74F
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12/16 20:12, , 75F
WADA那個約比他在軟銀還低，他OK就好..XD
12/16 20:12, 75F
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12/16 20:12, , 76F
和田毅 8M/2Y <==> 陳偉殷 20M/4Y ？
12/16 20:12, 76F
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12/16 20:42, , 77F
30歲 26歲
12/16 20:42, 77F
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12/16 20:46, , 78F
請看清楚我並不是說陳是三號 而是反駁某位板友的三號20M/4Y
12/16 20:46, 78F
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12/16 20:47, , 79F
論 看文章先看清楚好嗎
12/16 20:47, 79F
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12/16 21:12, , 80F
嗯，sorry。
12/16 21:12, 80F
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12/16 22:05, , 81F
請自己去查大聯盟的平均薪資 多說無益
12/16 22:05, 81F
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12/16 22:07, , 82F
普通RP平均能拿5M? 這是活在哪個時空阿?
12/16 22:07, 82F
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12/16 22:09, , 83F
台灣不是日本的一部分.
12/16 22:09, 83F
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12/16 22:10, , 84F
我要訴請美國宗痛佔領呆完
12/16 22:10, 84F
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12/16 22:15, , 85F
陳偉殷應該拿不到比和田大張的合約 但比較長是可以期待
12/16 22:15, 85F
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12/16 23:17, , 86F
水兵之前的發球機48M/4yr
12/16 23:17, 86F
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12/16 23:20, , 87F
被當成牛了= =
12/16 23:20, 87F
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12/16 23:26, , 88F
雖然我不會這樣看他 但是球探報告會這樣寫不意外
12/16 23:26, 88F
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12/17 00:25, , 89F
...這推文重複只有黑田SP是哪招？野茂要一直被鬼隱嗎？
12/17 00:25, 89F
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12/17 00:54, , 90F
Japanese pitcher Chen Wei-Yin ........
12/17 00:54, 90F
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12/17 02:47, , 91F
說不定只是想嚇退其他球隊和壓低價碼的技倆而已
12/17 02:47, 91F
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12/17 02:49, , 92F
球隊的球探報告 也是有很多種用途的…
12/17 02:49, 92F
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12/17 07:18, , 93F
讓他去接收MLB的打線洗禮 把鄉民們的臉都打爆吧
12/17 07:18, 93F
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12/17 07:19, , 94F
樓上也要被打爆了
12/17 07:19, 94F
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12/17 11:25, , 95F
能簽4年20M一定要簽 就算只能混3a 也夠退休用了
12/17 11:25, 95F
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12/17 11:48, , 96F
KURODA就黑田,哪有被遺忘.......
12/17 11:48, 96F
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12/17 12:03, , 97F
固定SP 野茂 牛肉
12/17 12:03, 97F
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12/17 13:44, , 98F
用FA的價碼比大聯盟平均薪資喔.....
12/17 13:44, 98F
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12/17 13:56, , 99F
達比修被打暴 陳殺大聯盟
12/17 13:56, 99F
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12/17 13:56, , 100F
被認作日本人總比被認作大陸人好~
12/17 13:56, 100F
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12/17 16:59, , 101F
好像更容易被認成韓國人........
12/17 16:59, 101F
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12/17 20:35, , 102F
拿洋基比不適合，很多球隊5號先發是拿小聯盟約或2M的
12/17 20:35, 102F
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04/30 00:11, , 103F
打臉啦 推一下
04/30 00:11, 103F
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