Re: [問題] 近10年有沒有投打俱佳的球員?

看板MLB作者 (翹你的小鋼盔)時間15年前 (2011/04/25 15:39), 編輯推噓17(1703)
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www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/2010-pitcher-hitting-winners-and-losers/ ..... In last season, Yovani Gallardo and Dan Haren tied for the lead with a positive contribution of a half-win apiece. Neither Gallardo nor Haren had success at the plate in the past and with Haren now with the American League Angels, he can effectively go out on top aside from the brief forays in interleague play. Pitchers flailing at the plate are far more usual and the worst offenders demonstrate that as Clayton Kershaw and Ubaldo Jimenez tied at -1.3 WAR with the bat. Unlike the leaders, who we are probably safe off assuming were flukes, these two deserve a reputation for lousy hitting. Kershaw has a career .207 OPS and .098 wOBA while Jimenez is marginally better at a .283 OPS and .138 wOBA. The Dodger pitchers were the league’s worst hitting group, combining for almost five wins below replacement as a unit. The terribleness of Jimenez and Kershaw illustrates how repeatedly being useless at the plate can add up over the years for pitchers. From 1990 to 2010, Greg Maddux was worth -14.1 WAR with his bat. Of course, he pitched for a very long time so a big part of that is the sheer number of plate appearances –1,562– that he had. However, over a nearly similar amount of trips, Tom Glavine was only at -8.5 WAR, a 5.5 win advantage for Glavine. That’s not a lot since both pitched for 20+ season, but it is still about a quarter win gap per season between the two and the spreads can be much larger. Mike Hampton and Curt Schilling were about 10 wins apart in their hitting over a similar number of chances. That is not a trivial amount. YG和DH棒棒 CK和UJ慘慘 躲投塗塗塗 廿瘋狗哭哭 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 203.70.97.13

04/25 15:49, , 1F
那大Z呢XDD
04/25 15:49, 1F

04/25 15:56, , 2F
投(球)打(人)俱佳
04/25 15:56, 2F

04/25 15:58, , 3F
飲料機
04/25 15:58, 3F

04/25 16:23, , 4F
2F不專業..明明就是飲料桶被打的頻率比較高...
04/25 16:23, 4F

04/25 16:39, , 5F
開特力表示:
04/25 16:39, 5F

04/25 16:40, , 6F
不要~不要過來
04/25 16:40, 6F

04/25 16:43, , 7F
不~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
04/25 16:43, 7F

04/25 18:04, , 8F
Gallardo打擊真的比一堆二游的強了吧 如果不考慮受傷問
04/25 18:04, 8F

04/25 18:06, , 9F
題 代打也是很威
04/25 18:06, 9F

04/25 18:10, , 10F
想到一個問題 如果在美聯 可以讓游擊打DH 投手打擊嗎?
04/25 18:10, 10F

04/25 18:12, , 11F
不行吧 DH就是不用守備... 但可以排沒上場的投手打DH~
04/25 18:12, 11F

04/25 18:55, , 12F
大Z投球明明一直都很強阿XD
04/25 18:55, 12F

04/25 19:48, , 13F
可以取消DH,讓投手排進打線,光芒教練幹過,而且還贏球
04/25 19:48, 13F

04/25 20:13, , 14F
讓游擊打dh是什麼
04/25 20:13, 14F

04/25 20:21, , 15F
光芒那場投手還打第三棒
04/25 20:21, 15F

04/25 21:10, , 16F
二樓的是放肆火吧
04/25 21:10, 16F

04/25 22:02, , 17F
光芒那場投手是A.Sonnanstine XD 應該只有西瓜做得出
04/25 22:02, 17F

04/25 23:37, , 18F
西瓜半仙
04/25 23:37, 18F

04/26 00:12, , 19F
那一場記得不是因為他填錯先發名單才變成那樣?
04/26 00:12, 19F

04/26 00:37, , 20F
2F說砸人(派)王嗎?
04/26 00:37, 20F
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