[外電] Winter meetings winners and losers

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Winter meetings winners and losers http://goo.gl/7zHtj December 9, 2010, 6:58 PM ET By Jayson Stark Red Sox reload, emerge victorious; Angels whiff on their prime target, Carl Crawford LAKE BUENA VISTA, Fla. -- They checked in Sunday, muttering, "Can you believe that Jayson Werth contract?" They checked out Thursday, muttering, "Can you believe the Red Sox got Carl Crawford?" And in between, baseball's 30 general managers teamed up to give us four days of winter meetings madness that will go down in the annals of historic spending if not unforgettable team-building. Werth and Crawford became the second pair of free-agent position players in history to sign deals of seven years (or more) and $100 million-plus in the same offseason. (The only others: Alex Rodriguez and Manny Ramirez a decade ago.) So although we remind you that there are two months left in this offseason for all of this to change, here's a look at the winners and losers of the latest edition of baseball's winter meetings: Winners 1. Boston Red Sox They didn't just have a great week by this offseason's standards. They had one of the great winter meetings weeks ever. The two best offensive players available this winter were Adrian Gonzalez and Crawford. The Red Sox found a way to add both of them -- and they pushed the Yankees' buttons so adeptly, they just about forced their pals from the Bronx to go far beyond what they ever intended in their quest to sign Cliff Lee. Crawford's gapper-centric offensive repertoire and Gonzalez's inside-out stroke are both perfect fits for Fenway. They give the Red Sox five hitters who have had at least one season of at least 62 extra-base hits (or better) within the past three years. And both these men are premier defensive players, which never hurts. Then again, they'd better be that good, because if this team can now finish off an extension for Gonzalez, it ain't going to be cheap. In fact, it'll cost more than a quarter-billion dollars for these two guys -- and it almost certainly would make the Red Sox just the second team in history to give out two nine-figure contracts of seven or more years in the same offseason. (The other: the 2009 Yankees, with CC Sabathia and Mark Teixeira.) So clearly, these were two acquisitions that again raise issues about baseball's never-ending money disparities. But if you had any questions who the centerpieces of the Red Sox's next generation were going to be, uh, questions answered. 2. Left-hander Cliff Lee Lee hasn't signed at these winter meetings. But other than that, he couldn't have had a better week if he'd won a Cy Young, hit the Powerball and won the National Bass Fishing Championship. We'll never know how many dollars Werth and Crawford added to Lee's net worth. But by the time these meetings were over, the Rangers were flying another delegation to his house, the Yankees were dangling seven-year offers at him and he was poised to sign one of the largest, if not the largest, pitching contract of all time -- at age 32. So in retrospect, you think he has any regrets that he had to change teams three times in 12 months to do it? Yeah, thought so. 3. Kansas City Royals OK, we admit this is a premature "winners" award, because the Royals haven't actually traded Zack Greinke yet. But this week's developments put them in a better position to pull off this monster deal than they've been in at any time this winter. On their way out of Disney World on Thursday, officials of two different teams delivered the same message: When they arrived at these meetings, they thought there was no way the Royals would trade their ace this winter. By the time they spun out the revolving door, they'd changed their minds -- and predicted it was now even "likely." The price never changed all week. It's still going to take what one NL exec described as "five premium pieces" to make this deal happen. But the Royals were smartly treading water this week, waiting for Lee to sign. And once that happened, they knew, Greinke would represent the only difference-making starter out there for teams such as the Rangers, Nationals, Blue Jays, Marlins and others to explore. Meanwhile, teams that spoke with the Royals believe that they're now more motivated to trade him because they recognize this is the time to strike -- when there's no real competition on the market -- and the reality has finally hit them that Greinke clearly wants out. "What can they tell him to keep him motivated -- that 'We'll be good in 2014?'" one AL exec said. "That's not going to fly. So now's the time, and I think they know it." 4. Chicago White Sox Their only official transaction this week was re-signing Paul Konerko. But even GM Kenny Williams admitted that the White Sox were close to waving goodbye to the face of their franchise, their No. 1 clubhouse presence and a guy who easily could have won an MVP award last season. So keeping Konerko was an important step -- and getting him signed for "only" $37.5 million over three years, less money per year than they just gave Adam Dunn, was huge. Add Konerko's return to the White Sox's other moves this winter -- adding left-handed thump in Dunn and re-signing catcher A.J. Pierzynski, who also almost bolted -- and the White Sox remain positioned for another run in the AL Central. Williams also admits that they're now out of money, but he's listening on players like Carlos Quentin and Gavin Floyd. So you can never rule out a trademark Kenny Williams blockbuster between now and Pitchers and Catchers. 5. San Diego Padres You won't find this team on many other winners lists. But given the limited options the Padres had as Gonzalez's free agency neared, they did the best they could in what was, realistically, a one-team derby. Boston was the place Gonzalez wanted to play, the one team that could deal for him with reasonable faith it could sign him. And the Padres still got three excellent prospects for him. They also made what other teams viewed as a worthwhile, low-cost trade for Jason Bartlett, who helps keep them competitive in 2011 at the least or becomes a big trading chip if they fall out of the race. Add in their earlier trade for the tool-laden Cameron Maybin and the potential signing of Derrek Lee, and this is a team making a lot of sensible decisions in a tough climate. Losers 1. Los Angeles Angels When was the last time a team had its offseason game plan reel so dramatically out of control as fast as this team's? The Angels spent the week pretty much fixating on Crawford, telling other clubs he was their No. 1 target by far, and acting incredibly confident his signing was all but inevitable. … And then they took such a this-is-the-way-the-Angels-negotiate approach to signing him, they couldn't close the deal. In the end, sources say, the Angels raised their offer enough that there was very little difference between their bid and the Red Sox's bid. But by then, Crawford was clearly drawn to everything that Boston had to offer -- and the Angels had suddenly become what one exec called "a team in trouble." Now, their only hope to salvage their offseason might be owner Arte Moreno's worst nightmare: overpaying two Scott Boras clients (Rafael Soriano and Adrian Beltre). And neither of them would bring them what Crawford could have. "He was the perfect guy for them," one AL executive said. "He fit their lineup. He'd have been a big defensive upgrade in left. His speed fit in with how they like to play offensively. And now there's no one else out there who can give them that -- and no outfielders coming on the market over the next couple of winters who are like him. So they really misplayed their hand on this one." 2. Tampa Bay Rays If you didn't feel their window slamming when David Price lost Game 5 of the ALDS at The Trop, you could sure feel it this week when Crawford officially hit the exit ramp. The Rays knew this was coming, of course. But that didn't make losing their most beloved player any easier. And neither will the prospect of having to face him 18 times a year for each of the next seven seasons. We almost feel guilty putting the Rays on this "losers" list because they've done just about everything right for three years, won two titles in the AL East and still were almost powerless to prevent The System from ripping apart one of baseball's most exciting teams. That would be a difficult lot in life in any division, but it's even more painful in the AL East, where building an 85-to-90-win team just earns you an October tee time. Asked about the challenge of trying to survive in this AL East jungle, Rays executive vice president of baseball operations Andrew Friedman said Thursday: "It's always been nearly impossible, and it's probably getting closer to impossible. But it's doable." So how do they do it? There's lots of buzz about potentially nucleus-rebuilding deals involving B.J. Upton and/or Matt Garza. And although the Rays have publicly downplayed the chances of moving either of them, other clubs believe they're seriously thinking about it. 3. New York Yankees Whooh. Tough week. The Yankees got bashed by an angry Derek Jeter. They got outmaneuvered by a Red Sox team that got much better and more dangerous. They saw Crawford head for Boston before they had a chance to make a serious run at him. They heard no encouraging news about the return of Andy Pettitte. And by the end of the week, they felt so pressured to sign Lee, they found themselves doing something they'd sworn they would never do -- throw a seven-year offer at him. Maybe, in the long run, this week will turn out to be just another blip on the Yankees' $200 million radar screen. Nevertheless, this isn't how they would have choreographed just about anything that unfolded. 4. Philadelphia Phillies In truth, the Phillies have known for months that Werth wouldn't be back. But now that it's official, it's hard to come up with any scenario that says they'll be a better team without a player whose .899 OPS the past two years was topped by only two players in the NL East -- Dunn (.910) and Hanley Ramirez (.905). In fact, they don't even have a real attractive option on their radar screen. They never made a serious run at two free agents on their right-handed-hitter shopping list -- Jeff Francoeur and Matt Diaz, both of whom signed elsewhere. They showed only mild interest in another non-tendered free agent, Scott Hairston. And although they have explored trading for their old amigo, Aaron Rowand, if the Giants eat three-fourths of his salary, one source laid the current odds of that deal going down at only 2 in 10. So while GM Ruben Amaro Jr. spun this mess by saying there was no urgency to address this vacancy this week, this month or even before Opening Day, the gap between the Phillies and the rest of the NL East continued to shrink this week. 5. Washington Nationals Somebody has to win the Most Outrageous Contract of the Winter Meetings competition. So it's time to deliver this year's prestigious nontrophy to those Washington Nationals, for handing Werth two more years and at least $40 million more than most clubs figured he'd get. On one hand, we understand what the Nationals were trying to accomplish here. When your franchise hasn't played a postseason game in 30 years and all the people around you have been numbed by all the losing, you need to do something dramatic and eye-popping to get their attention and change that culture. So there was nothing wrong, in theory, with signing Werth, a very good player who was an underrated part of that Phillies quasi-NL East dynasty. But seven years -- for a guy who will turn 32 in May and has had only two 500-at-bat seasons in his career? Whew. No free agent in the past two decades had signed a contract this long at this age (or older) who wasn't at least a multitime All-Star. So no wonder so many baseball conversations about this deal this week began with the same three words: "Oh my God." -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 202.169.165.165

12/10 10:00, , 1F
Lee這個第二真是實至名歸 當然後面的推手也是很重要XD
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12/10 10:30, , 2F
把NYY打成loser的原因會不會有點太...
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12/10 10:32, , 3F
粉酷+牛奶+乳摸=winner.....
12/10 10:32, 3F

12/10 10:37, , 4F
皇家應該有算是Lee的受益者吧 Lee也幫忙炒高Greinke的價值
12/10 10:37, 4F

12/10 10:45, , 5F
Werth那張約,真的只有爽到經紀人跟他自己...
12/10 10:45, 5F

12/10 10:51, , 6F
去年Holliday簽約 這邊也是不少人覺得約太長太貴
12/10 10:51, 6F

12/10 10:51, , 7F
現在看來是很便宜阿
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12/10 10:52, , 8F
會不會明年再來看 也覺得這些約根本不夠看呢
12/10 10:52, 8F

12/10 10:53, , 9F
CC那張都不算loser...我只能說這篇主觀意識很重
12/10 10:53, 9F

12/10 11:08, , 10F
洋基當年狂簽cc AJ 鐵爺的時候 交易後評價也第一名 = =
12/10 11:08, 10F

12/10 11:10, , 11F
淚推Rays
12/10 11:10, 11F

12/10 11:14, , 12F
ok的啊,洋基之後那年就拿總冠軍了啊
12/10 11:14, 12F

12/10 11:26, , 13F
輸贏要等到對戰才知道 光看陣容 誰會想到老人今年居然胡牌
12/10 11:26, 13F

12/10 11:31, , 14F
老人今年也沒多冷門吧 光芒第一輪就掰比較意外
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12/10 11:41, , 15F
老人今年季前普遍被預測國西墊底 不冷門?
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12/10 11:46, , 16F
當時預期打線的亮點還是一個沒上過MLB的新人捕手
12/10 11:46, 16F

12/10 11:49, , 17F
Posey去年就上過MLB觀光了
12/10 11:49, 17F

12/10 11:51, , 18F
過四年等著看紅襪簽CC到底算不算贏家
12/10 11:51, 18F

12/10 11:52, , 19F
噢連觀光過都忘了~"~
12/10 11:52, 19F

12/10 11:56, , 20F
最好老人不冷門@@
12/10 11:56, 20F

12/10 12:05, , 21F
這是有買的有分嗎?
12/10 12:05, 21F

12/10 12:21, , 22F
Let'S Go Royals!~
12/10 12:21, 22F

12/10 13:06, , 23F
CC那張昨天世界體育中心說是史上外野第二貴........
12/10 13:06, 23F

12/10 13:10, , 24F
有錢就是贏家(無誤
12/10 13:10, 24F

12/10 13:11, , 25F
這個排名是WinterMeeting而已 NYY這周也的確蠻糗的?
12/10 13:11, 25F

12/10 13:12, , 26F
至於是loser第幾名該怪NYY放話考慮CC當PlanB 被簽難看
12/10 13:12, 26F

12/10 13:15, , 27F
放話要的都沒簽到 攔路紅紅的那隻低調地大殺四方
12/10 13:15, 27F

12/10 13:18, , 28F
接著看Russell Martin 再被攔胡...
12/10 13:18, 28F

12/10 13:18, , 29F
NYY有提offer給CC嗎 (放話而已 隔壁就起笑了)
12/10 13:18, 29F

12/10 13:19, , 30F
洋基:反正Plan A簽到就好了 Why so serious XDDD
12/10 13:19, 30F

12/10 13:26, , 31F
如果是放話導致對方以20M/y簽到腿哥,那也值得啦~~~
12/10 13:26, 31F

12/10 13:33, , 32F
誰會光憑季前預測判定冷門與否?季中費城還差點打不進季後
12/10 13:33, 32F

12/10 13:36, , 33F
紅襪都在補打線 不搶一下SP嗎
12/10 13:36, 33F

12/10 13:43, , 34F
洋基最主要的目標只有Lee而已 沒搶到Lee再來說糗
12/10 13:43, 34F

12/10 13:44, , 35F
Crawford只是洋基備案而已 幸好沒簽到 這麼貴-.-
12/10 13:44, 35F

12/10 13:44, , 36F
北佬打線除了11齁黑12正妹約到外,其他人都可以用2013
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12/10 13:44, , 37F
就是沒人看好才叫冷門
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12/10 13:45, , 38F
他們要補的洞主要好像也只有SP而已.....
12/10 13:45, 38F

12/10 13:45, , 39F
就算是球季結束 光看8支季後賽球隊老人也不會是熱門
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12/10 13:55, , 40F
其實我想不到什麼理由看好巨人會勝出..
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12/10 14:00, , 41F
去年巨人能拿WS真的很傳奇,光是贏費城就神,還連過兩關XD
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12/10 14:00, , 42F
今年啦,2010還沒過
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12/10 14:03, , 43F
巨投+適時發瘋的打線=冠軍 真的是很傳奇
12/10 14:03, 43F

12/10 14:03, , 44F
XD||| 看冬季進補這麼有趣,都直接期待開打了XD
12/10 14:03, 44F

12/10 14:23, , 45F
洋基如果用那種約簽Crawford應該又被酸死
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12/10 14:31, , 46F
洋基不是美年都是輸家嗎
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12/10 15:09, , 47F
紅襪補SP幹嘛 最貴的那兩條J投得出來就夠了
12/10 15:09, 47F

12/10 15:09, , 48F
八扣子跟抗癌今年也都很威 補SP的點在?
12/10 15:09, 48F

12/10 15:10, , 49F
很慶幸NYY沒去簽Crawford...貴爆了...
12/10 15:10, 49F

12/10 15:11, , 50F
你今年季前會想的到巨人奪冠嗎? 現在講這不就事後諸葛
12/10 15:11, 50F

12/10 15:23, , 51F
就算只看季後賽 巨人從頭到尾就沒什麼地方贏過費城 能過關
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12/10 15:24, , 52F
真的是跌破眼鏡
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12/10 15:45, , 53F
那有人季前會想的到費城季賽打成這樣嗎? 馬後炮
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12/10 15:47, , 54F
原來REVIEW都是馬後炮
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12/10 15:52, , 55F
紅襪補sp XD 八扣子跟lester都蠻穩定的明年又有奇數年的
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12/10 15:54, , 56F
NYY 沒拿冠軍就是失敗XDD
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12/10 15:54, , 57F
北極lackey表現正常 維尼骰子不要亂甩 補sp要幹麻...
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12/10 15:54, , 58F
而且還有老蝴蝶能先發
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12/10 16:16, , 59F
補rp比較實在吧?
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12/10 16:19, , 60F
紅襪要對Scott Downs出手...今年口袋沒有深度
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12/10 16:32, , 61F
把美東今年FA最好的左投RP簽下來~才不會剋到自己的左打
12/10 16:32, 61F
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