Re: [外絮] NIP對於Alex的回應消失

看板LoL作者時間11年前 (2014/10/05 06:59), 11年前編輯推噓15(15030)
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沒跟到抓馬, 純粹邊翻邊跟, 若有錯誤望請鄉民大大指證<(_ _)> ※ 引述《ilris (或許會苦的咖啡)》之銘言: : Regarding Alex Ich:s statement on his Facebook page. 關於Alex Ich在他FB粉絲專頁上的那篇文。 : First of all we want to say we are sorry our collaboration with Alex did not : work out. 首先,我們對於關於跟Alex Ich的合作弄得不歡而散感到難過。 : We in NiP have made all the efforts to get the work-permit Alex needed to : stay in Sweden and this is well documented. It has taken a long time since : e-Sport professionals dont fall the same rules as other athlets. E-sport is : not a part of the swedish Riksidrottsförbundet : ( National sportsfederation ) 我們NiP的人員用盡了各種努力,試圖去幫Alex Ich取得在瑞典的工作證, 這點我們是有證據的,並非空口說白話。 這過程花了相當長的時間,因為電競選手並不適用一般的規定, 電競並不屬於瑞典國家體育聯盟中的一環。 (字面翻譯,未必為該組織確切名稱) : Alex therefor isn't considered an unique competence in Sweden and his job had : to be announced in all of Europe and after that approved by a swedish union. : During this process Alex himself asked to be released from his contract and : he was. Alex hasnt been all alone in sweden since his wife has been living : with him for a month in the NiP gaming house on our expense. 因此Alex並不被認為擁有待在瑞典的特殊權限,要等到瑞典當地的工會核准並公布。 在這期間,Alex要求解約,而我們也同意了。 Alex並不是一直都是一個人在瑞典,他的妻子已經來NiP跟他一起住一個月了, 而且花的是我們的錢。 : We received an invoice from Alex on the 14:th of september as he states. In : Sweden its customary that invoices are paid on 30 days and we have issued the : invoice for payment by our bank for the 14:th of october. Alex haven't : emailed or called us at all since we approved his parting with us and its : clear that we would have answered his questions had he done so. 我們在9/14收到Alex寄來的帳單,正如他在粉專上所說的那樣。 在瑞典,一般慣例上帳單需在30天之內繳費, 而我們也打算在10/14之前付清這筆款項。 自從我們批准Alex的解約之後,他完全沒有寄email或是打給我們, 很明顯的,我們會回答Alex的所有疑慮,只要他與我們聯絡。 : The last contact we have had with Alex is him sending us the invoice on the : 14 :th of september. : On the performence side we are just sorry that Alex hasnt lived up to the : expectations and we wish him all the best in his future teams. 我們與Alex最後一次聯繫是在9/14,也就是他寄帳單給我們的時候。 很遺憾的,Alex在這次賽事上的表現並不如預期, 希望他也能在往後的隊伍中做出最好的發揮,並祝福他一切順利。 (感謝S大指正) : I have now spoken to Alex and we part away as friends. 我已經跟Alex談過了,我們雖已分道揚鑣,但仍舊是朋友。 : Best Regards, : Per Lilliefelth, CEO Ninjas in Pyjamas 又是一起羅生門了嗎A__A 還是只是純粹溝通不良? -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 140.116.130.138 ※ 文章網址: http://www.ptt.cc/bbs/LoL/M.1412463556.A.F6F.html

10/05 07:01, , 1F
可能要問第三者,因為兩邊都說的通
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10/05 07:01, , 2F
召喚教練阿!
10/05 07:01, 2F

10/05 07:10, , 3F
倒數第二段那邊有點小錯誤喔, NiP的反應是相反的
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10/05 07:14, , 4F
we are just sorry that Alex hasnt lived up to
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10/05 07:14, , 5F
the expectations -> 這段不是說沒有辜負, 而是當面
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10/05 07:15, , 6F
指責Alex沒有打出他們(NiP)對他的期待,也就是不夠好
10/05 07:15, 6F

10/05 07:16, , 7F
然後希望他在未來的隊伍一切順利blah blah
10/05 07:16, 7F
喔我看懂了XDD 一定是太久沒睡導致精神恍惚QQ 大家晚安~~ (?

10/05 07:17, , 8F
現在就是把問題攤開 看後續解決的如何再討論吧
10/05 07:17, 8F
※ 編輯: Argonium (140.116.130.138), 10/05/2014 07:20:56

10/05 07:23, , 9F
簽證那邊或許吧 但是請款單這邊NiP的做法很詭異啊
10/05 07:23, 9F

10/05 07:23, , 10F
說Alex不聯絡他們 他們也沒告訴Alex什麼時候會付錢
10/05 07:23, 10F

10/05 07:24, , 11F
Alex當然會覺得NiP在裝死
10/05 07:24, 11F

10/05 07:25, , 12F
翻譯:alex騙人,他壞壞;我們好棒棒。
10/05 07:25, 12F

10/05 07:50, , 13F
沒打出期待所以想賴帳?
10/05 07:50, 13F

10/05 09:19, , 14F
什麼爛公司!沒打出期待就不付薪水?如果Alex沒PO那篇
10/05 09:19, 14F

10/05 09:20, , 15F
NIP真的會出來面對?已經發了那麼多次訊息忽略不回
10/05 09:20, 15F

10/05 09:21, , 16F
卻說ALEX可以隨時和他們聯絡 什麼鬼阿....
10/05 09:21, 16F

10/05 09:21, , 17F
當初談合約有說沒打進LCS就作白工?簽證有問題也不講
10/05 09:21, 17F

10/05 09:21, , 18F
讓選手申根簽到期直接無法繼續待下去 還好意思這樣
10/05 09:21, 18F

10/05 09:22, , 19F
講 果然人不要臉天下無敵....
10/05 09:22, 19F

10/05 09:36, , 20F
不願虧本的商人嘴臉
10/05 09:36, 20F

10/05 11:08, , 21F
skype敲 不是連絡喔 怪公司
10/05 11:08, 21F

10/05 11:53, , 22F
謝謝翻譯′‵唉 ~~~ Orz
10/05 11:53, 22F

10/05 12:01, , 23F
沒說不付薪水八 很多公司是會拖到不能拖才付倒是沒
10/05 12:01, 23F

10/05 12:50, , 24F
完全不提自己沒聯絡的事情,也沒跟Alex說會付款
10/05 12:50, 24F

10/05 12:50, , 25F
Alex當然緊張又失望
10/05 12:50, 25F

10/05 13:08, , 26F
沒說不付但是多次聯絡不回應 是你還會幻想對方會付?
10/05 13:08, 26F

10/05 13:14, , 27F
nip只是在消毒而已,但alex確實也是自作自受。對原
10/05 13:14, 27F

10/05 13:14, , 28F
隊友缺乏耐心,又不慎選新隊友,最後自以為可以carr
10/05 13:14, 28F

10/05 13:14, , 29F
y,成績當然打不出來。結了婚想帶老婆到處跑又要別
10/05 13:14, 29F

10/05 13:14, , 30F
人買單,拖油瓶拖太大哪都去不成。
10/05 13:14, 30F

10/05 13:23, , 31F
成績沒打出來就不用付薪水?
10/05 13:23, 31F

10/05 13:23, , 32F
Alex這樣還叫缺乏耐心?
10/05 13:23, 32F

10/05 13:24, , 33F
你講的那些事情每一件都是事先知道的
10/05 13:24, 33F

10/05 13:25, , 34F
被你講成這樣真的有夠離譜 腦補到有剩
10/05 13:25, 34F

10/05 13:26, , 35F
缺乏耐心-腦補 不慎選-腦補 自以為-腦補
10/05 13:26, 35F

10/05 13:26, , 36F
要人買單-腦補 你會不會太誇張
10/05 13:26, 36F

10/05 13:27, , 37F
薪水的事情當然是nip的錯,我說的是他現在處境
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10/05 13:28, , 38F
Nip提出可以提供家人保障的 alex才會選那邊
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10/05 13:28, , 39F
Alex一直以來都是一個超有耐心的人ˊ_>ˋ
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10/05 13:29, , 40F
他自己都說知道跟mithy nukeduck同隊有風險,最後
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10/05 13:29, , 41F
連k0u都跟隊伍翻臉
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10/05 13:31, , 42F
或許當初留在gambit才是對的
10/05 13:31, 42F

10/05 15:12, , 43F
"這次比賽表現不如預期"這句就講得很明顯了
10/05 15:12, 43F

10/05 16:13, , 44F
三個月不付薪水還要別人提醒你才準備付款而且付款等
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10/05 16:13, , 45F
待時間要一個月 ZZZZZ 這什麼爛公司
10/05 16:13, 45F
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