Re: [情報] 球員與球隊的FB/twitter

看板Liverpool作者 (燈泡)時間12年前 (2012/05/22 01:29), 編輯推噓10(10013)
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看Balague關於******的消息,Paul Dalglish一時興起談了一些 他對轉會跟薪水的看法 (ID黃色的是鄉民們) @pauldalglish A positive of my old man getting his P45 is that I can now comment on current football affairs without having to be careful what I say! 我爸被炒的好處之一就是我現在又可以嘴砲足球了! One of the biggest overlooked factors in football by supporters is players wage demands. Some clubs can afford transfer fees but not wages! 足球世界裡球迷最容易低估的事情之一就是薪水,有些球會負擔得起轉會費 ,但負擔不起薪水! For instance 2 players cost 20m but 1 is on 80k a week and 1 is on 250k on 5 years deals. Difference on total deal is 44.2m! 譬如說,有兩個選手分別都是以2000萬轉會費簽下,但一個8萬週薪,一個25萬週薪, 五年約下來相差達44.2M! Also the media interpretation of money spent. You release a player on a free who is on 80k a week for the next 3 years. Money saved 12.48m. 媒體對支出的解讀也有一樣的盲點,你讓一個還有三年約,週薪8萬的球員自由離隊 ,意謂著你省下了1248萬。 @THEREDSCOT @pauldalglish you talking LFC players? 鄉民: 你在說利物浦的選手嗎? @pauldalglish No I am just talking generally @THEREDSCOT 不,我是在講一般的情形。 Also money received back on sales. People who talk money spent, not net spend, must not sell their house b4 they buy another. 賣人的收入也應該被計算進去。那些只看支出不看淨支出的人,八成都是 先買新房子之後才賣掉舊房子吧。 @carrie3006 @pauldalglish hence rafa didn't spend as much as people thought! 鄉民:所以說Rafa花得沒大家想像中的多嘛! @pauldalglish Agreed. It all depends how the media want to portray the story. 同意,一切都只是因為媒體想要寫故事而已。 @topscat @pauldalglish : £13.3m net spend dispels this great fallacy over Rafa Benitez. This is what the man actually spent over six seasons. 鄉民: Rafa時代的淨支出是1330萬,這才是他六年間真正的花費。 @pauldalglish I have no idea what his net spend was as I have no idea what he spent on wages. You can't separate the 2. @topscat 我不知道他的淨支出是多少,因為我不知道他到底付了多少薪水,這兩 件事要放在一起看。 For instance, Rafa had to sell players he probably didn't want to, to generate the money to give Gerrard, Torres etc new deals. 譬如說,Rafa得賣掉幾個他可能其實不想賣的選手來籌措包子、****** 等人簽新合約的經費。 @iandickens KD spent 114m. Made back 76m. Considering high-eanrers (Babel/Torres etc), its quite possible he broke even. Correct? 鄉民:國王支出1億1400萬,收入7600萬,再考慮到他清掉一些高薪球員(八寶/******等) ,所以他其實可能是收支平衡的? @pauldalglish Possibly but I have no idea about exact fee's or wages but I would like to try & keep this a general discussion not an LFC one 可能吧,但我不知道確切的轉會費或薪水。我比較想談普遍的情況,而不是 針對利物浦而言。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 140.117.185.27 ※ 編輯: a111156987 來自: 140.117.185.27 (05/22 01:30)

05/22 01:45, , 1F
他講得有道理呀,只是想表達甚麼???還是只是純嘴砲???
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05/22 01:45, , 2F
就嘴砲啦
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05/22 01:47, , 3F
看完我第一個想到的是Maxi的9萬週薪....
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05/22 01:48, , 4F
就閒聊打屁啦
05/22 01:48, 4F

05/22 08:31, , 5F
話說,若真的要把薪水跟奪冠/保級獎金算進去,再把收益
05/22 08:31, 5F

05/22 08:31, , 6F
也算進去,那就不用當記者和球迷了...
05/22 08:31, 6F

05/22 08:31, , 7F
那就跟球會會計沒兩樣了
05/22 08:31, 7F

05/22 08:32, , 8F
所以我們球迷只要知道個大概就差不多了
05/22 08:32, 8F

05/22 09:24, , 9F
他這篇是單就球員交易的收支來講 倒也沒牽扯很多
05/22 09:24, 9F

05/22 10:17, , 10F
話說回來 利紀現在每年要位兩位球員付6百萬鎊的薪水
05/22 10:17, 10F

05/22 10:17, , 11F
一位是Jole Cole 另一位忘了(不是AQUAMAN) 都是霍太公買的
05/22 10:17, 11F

05/22 10:18, , 12F
JC的薪水105K/W 但是我們外界後還要給他70K/W
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05/22 10:39, , 13F
喬科這筆實在不知道要說什麼... 本來以為是免轉會費的
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05/22 10:40, , 14F
好貨 結果壞掉了Orz
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05/22 10:44, , 15F
而且他簽了四年,賣不出去的話還是要硬著頭皮付錢
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05/22 11:10, , 16F
btw 他好像想回來 如果肯自願減薪重談合約再來談吧...
05/22 11:10, 16F

05/22 12:29, , 17F
可是就算他不肯降新 等於沒有買家也不能脫手呀 還是虧
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05/22 12:29, , 18F
原本以為JC撿到了 結果才發現虧大了
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05/22 12:38, , 19F
據說 槍手要買Skrtel... 囧~
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05/22 12:46, , 20F
不可能吧 他們缺邊後衛 教授又戀童
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05/22 13:07, , 21F
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05/22 13:53, , 22F
.......是時候來個利記板第一簽了 φ(._. )>
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05/22 14:42, , 23F
槍手中衛沒我們穩 但有歐冠...
05/22 14:42, 23F
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