Re: [新聞] AD:到了球館才得知LBJ缺陣，我不知道他明天打不打
直接用這篇當回文PO XD
總板那篇湖人宮廷肥皂劇
感覺很多人應該根本不知道Rambis這樣瞎搞的問題在哪
甚至還把問題焦點丟回球員身上 這實在很瞎
Rambis的問題其實更早之前就有端倪了
https://tinyurl.com/pta5ad9y
The Lakers reportedly tried to force Kurt Rambis on Tyronn Lue, who instead
chose unemployment
Earlier on Thursday, reports surfaced that before he was let go, one of the
hangups between Los Angeles Lakers management and Luke Walton was the
insistence that he add Kurt Rambis to his coaching staff.
週四早些時候，報導據稱Luke Walton被解僱之前，洛杉磯湖人隊管理層和Walton之間
的分歧之一是高層堅持要把Kurt Rambis加入他的教練組
--------之後就是下面這段--------
According to Vincent Goodwill of Yahoo Sports, Rambis was once again a point
of contention, this time with Tyronn Lue, who chose to remain unemployed
rather than employ the former Lakers and Knicks assistant coach:
根據雅虎體育的Vincent Goodwill的說法，Rambis再次成為爭論的焦點，這一次是
Tyronn Lue選擇繼續失業，而不是聘請前湖人和尼克隊的助理教練
And what’s worse, asking Lue to take on Rambis as an assistant, a no-no
according to sources close to Lue, feels like the Lakers want their walls
bugged and feared a LeBron takeover — as if Lue would allow himself to be
used as a puppet.
更糟的是，要求Lue讓Rambis擔任助理，根據Lue親近的消息人士透露，這是一個禁忌，
感覺就像湖人隊希望他們的牆被竊聽並擔心勒布朗的收購(這段看不太懂原文意思)
—好像Lue會允許自己被當作提線木偶。
這篇外電後面大概就是繼續噴Rambis是湖人這個狀況的受益者之類的XD
至於現況呢?
https://tinyurl.com/2b3ws8b9
Kurt Rambis is just in charge of the Lakers now, I guess
It’s been long known that Rambis wields more power in the Lakers’ front
office than his “senior basketball advisor” title would suggest, but I will
admit that even I had no idea he was this prominent of a voice until today.
眾所周知，Rambis在湖人管理層的權力比他的“高級籃球顧問”頭銜所暗示的要大，
但時至今日我都不知道他的影響力有這麼大。
First, Bill Oram and Sam Amick of The Athletic reported that Rambis had
basically threatened the jobs of everyone on the coaching staff if things didn
’t get better for the team (emphasis mine):
Bill Oram及Sam Amick在報導中稱如果球隊狀況沒有好轉，Rambis會威脅到教練團每個人
的工作
The coaching staff has been well aware that it faced significant pressure for
months. Sources say that was made clear to the staff early on this season by
Kurt Rambis, the former Laker and current director of basketball affairs who
has become one of the most influential members of the organization since
returning to the franchise in 2017.
教練團幾個月一直面臨著巨大的壓力。消息人士稱，前湖人隊、現任籃球事務總監Rambis
在本賽季初已經向他們明確表示了這一點，自 2017 年重返球隊以來，他已成為該組織最
具影響力的成員之一。
Yet not long after Rambis relayed the word that they were all at risk of
being replaced if things did not improve, COVID complications made it nearly
impossible for the Lakers to continue evaluating Vogel because, among other
reasons, he wasn’t there. He entered the league’s health and safety
protocols on Dec. 19 and didn’t return until Dec. 31.
然而，在Rambis轉述說如果情況沒有改善，教練團就準備被撤換之後不久，新冠肺炎的發
生讓湖人隊幾乎不可能繼續評估Vogel，因為他不在場。 他於12月19日進入聯盟的健康和
安全協議，直到12月31日才返回。
That, in and of itself, didn’t raise that many eyebrows. Again, it was well
known that Rambis was involved, even if it was a little surprising that he
was feeling powerful enough to threaten the jobs of the entire coaching staff.
這本身並沒有再次引起那麼多人的注意。 眾所周知Rambis參與其中，即使他感覺自己強大
到足以威脅到整個教練團的工作，這有點令人驚訝。
But then, a few hours later, Dan Woike and Brad Turner of The Los Angeles
Times reported that not only is Rambis powerful enough to browbeat the
coaching staff, but he’s also been empowered to sit in on their meetings and
make suggestions when he doesn’t like how things are going.
但是，幾個小時後，《洛杉磯時報》的Dan Woike和Brad Turner報導說，Rambis不僅強大
到足以威懾教練團，而且他被授權參加教練團會議並在他不喜歡的狀況進展下提出建議。
And last week, he had an idea that I’m sure Lakers fans are just going to
love (again, emphasis mine):
上周他又提出一個想法(湖人球迷一定會喜歡的?)
According to people with knowledge of the situation, Pelinka, the Lakers’
vice president of basketball operations and general manager, and Kurt Rambis,
the team’s senior basketball advisor, met with Vogel and assistant coach
David Fizdale after last week’s loss to the Sacramento Kings to discuss ways
to turn things around. It was the third time the group had met in recent days.
據知情人士透露，在上週輸給國王隊後，Pelinka和Rambis會見了Vogel和Fizdale。
討論扭轉局面的方法。這是該小組最近幾天第三次見面。
The Lakers then lost on Saturday to the Denver Nuggets by 37 points, their
worst defeat of the season, putting more heat on Vogel.
湖人隊隨後在周六輸給了丹佛金塊隊37分，這是他們本賽季最慘的敗仗，讓他們強迫Vogel
去做些動作。
Rambis then attended the Lakers’ pregame coaches meeting Monday at
Crypto.com Arena for the first time this season, after previously only
attending meetings virtually. Rambis advocated for the Lakers to use larger
lineups with Dwight Howard and DeAndre Jordan, according to people with
knowledge of the situation.
Rambis隨後本賽季第一次參加了周一在 Crypto.com Arena 舉行的湖人隊的賽前教練會議
，此前只參加了虛擬會議。 據知情人士透露，Rambis主張湖人隊使用Dwight Howard和
DeAndre Jordan這種更高大的陣容。
(Update: After we published this, The L.A. Times later quietly updated their
story with no correction, taking out Jordan and Howard’s names, and only
saying Rambis attended the meeting and “advocated for the Lakers to use
traditional strategies,” for whatever that’s worth. Original story follows)
（更新：在我們發表這篇文章後，《洛杉磯時報》後來悄悄更新了他們的內容，，刪除了
喬丹和霍華德的名字，只說Rambis出席了會議並“主張湖人隊使用傳統策略”）
As an aside, whoever on the coaching staff is leaking this stuff is honestly
hilarious, and absolutely knows what they are doing, so that’s worth taking
into account here.
順便說一句，教練團洩露這些事情的人真的很搞笑，而且絕對知道他們在做什麼，所以
這裡值得深思。
這篇外電後面大概就是講Rambis過去的豐功偉業
*比方像他在灰狼當主教練兩個賽季，以 32 勝 132 負的戰績被開除，勝率0.195是NBA
球隊歷史上倒數第二
*在他擔任教練的所有時間裡，職業生涯戰績為 65-164，勝率僅為 0.375，在NBA歷史上
所有教練中排名第66
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回過頭來看這些狗屁倒灶的事情
沒有教練會希望前台管理層去干預教練團的事務。因為這不僅對賦予教練權力並讓他們
貫徹自己的球賽/帶隊理念造成反效果，而且還會影響教練組與球員的關係。
當球員覺得教練沒有被授權或管理層影響陣容決定時，整個教練團會在球員眼中失去
可信度，這在他們與教練互動和聽教練指揮時表現得最為明顯。它會在各處逐漸侵蝕
彼此的信任和有效性。
達拉斯獨行俠隊就是個最明顯的例子
https://nba.udn.com/nba/story/12608/5598277
現在這種互鬥戲碼之下 球隊陣容裡的老大LBJ 瓜哥他們知道這種崩壞的後果
所以一定是要先站在教練團這邊 不然整支球隊會無法運作下去
至於季後Vogel會不會走人 大概只能走一步算一步先打完這季再說
不然等LBJ真的退休 這支球隊的管理層一樣不做大翻修的時候
大部分人才會發覺 表面上光鮮亮麗的湖人 實際在多面向的問題上是一支走到赤貧的球隊
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