[討論] If get Hedo by Sasha + Luke -- Shoul …
換Hedo說不定可行,
前提是用Luke + Sasha換.
以下對3種方案分析
1. 續簽Fisher
2. 續簽Fisher + Luke + Sasha換 Hedo
3. 簽不到Fisher, Luke + Sasha換 H. Turkoglu + Belinelli
如果Fisher 7M/2yr, Belinelli是5.5M/2yr(第二年QO),
所以先只比 1 vs 3
2010-2011 2011-2012 2012-2013 2013-2014
Bryant 24806250 25244000 27849000 30453000
Gasol 17822180 18714000 19000000 19285000
Bynum 13842330 15157000 16473000 0
Odom 8200000 8900000 8200000 0
Artest 6322000 6790000 7258000 7726000
Vujacic 5475000 0 0 0
Walton 5260000 5680000 6100000 0
Blake 4000000 4000000 4000000 4000000
Banks 800000 800000 800000 800000
caracter 800000 800000 800000 800000
Fisher 3500000 3500000 0 0
C1 2000000 2000000 0 0
GF1 1000000 1000000 0 0
SG1 0 2500000 0 0
總薪資 93827760 95085000 90480000 63064000
假設需補兩個替補 C1+GF1 = 3M/yr, 第2年補Sasha空缺的SG1是2.5M/yr
方案三 :if簽不到Fisher, Luke + Sasha換 H. Turkoglu + Belinelli
需補齊的是第1&2年替補 C1, GF1 -> PG1, SG1可以減薪到1M, 總共4M/yr
Belinelli 2380270 3377604 0 0
Turkoglu 9800000 10600000 11400000 12200000
總薪資 92773030 98382604 95780000 75264000
方案一差距 -1M 3.3M 5.3M 12.2M
第三年就是多花5.3M Luke升級成Hedo,
第四年是多了Hedo 12.2M的約
前兩年差距不大,
平均多1.1M/yr Fisher + Luke + Sasha/SG1 vs Turkoglu + Belinelli
若是方案2則是
平均多 <3M/yr Luke + Sasha/SG1 vs Turkoglu
假設3種方案都使用下面PF + C方案
PG SG SF PF C Total
Gasol 18 14 32
Bynum 30 30
Odom 30 30
C1 4 4
那陣容方案1
PG SG SF PF C Total
Bryant 36 36
Artest 32 32
Vujacic 12 12
Walton 12 12
Blake 24 24
Banks 4 4
Fisher 24 24
方案2 PG SG SF PF C
Bryant 2 34 36
Artest 14 18 32 一半SG, 一半SF
Fisher 22 22
Turkoglu 30 30
Blake 24 24
方案3 PG SG SF PF C
Bryant 18 16 34 一半PG, 一半SG
Artest 18 14 32 一半SG, 一半SF
Belinelli 14 14
Turkoglu 30 30
Blake 24 24
Banks 4 4
PG1 6 6
48 48 48 48 48
先發陣容
方案1 Fisher, Bryant, Artest, Gasol, Bynum 替補 Odom, Blake, Vujacic, Walton
方案2 Fisher, Bryant, Artest, Gasol, Bynum 替補 Odom, Blake, Turkoglu
方案3 Bryant, Artest, Turkoglu, Gasol, Bynum 替補 Odom, Blake, Belinelli
感覺2, 3都比1威很多, 方案3平均先發身高 6' 8~9"
方案2, 前兩年平均多 3M
方案3, 前兩年平均多 1M
第三年就是多花5.3M Luke升級成Hedo,
第四年是多了Hedo 12.2M的約
前三年感覺都很划算.
今年3分不準, 用區域防守的剋法, 也不復存在
Vujacic, Walton 今年樣本少用終身, 其他人用今年樣本
Bryant 0.329 Bryant 0.329
Artest 0.355 Artest 0.355
Blake 0.395 Blake 0.395
Fisher 0.348 Belinelli 0.380
Vujacic 0.371 Turkoglu 0.374
Walton 0.336
Kobe和Hedo都須持球的問題可以靠上場陣容調整
右邊方案3感覺還是強不少
PG SG SF PG SG SF
Fisher Bryant Artest 16 Bryant Artest Turkoglu 18
Blake Bryant Artest 12 Blake Bryant Artest 8
Fisher Vujacic Walton 4 Bryant Belinelli Artest 6
Blake Vujacic Walton 4 Blake Artest Turkoglu 6
Fisher Vujacic Artest 4 Blake Belinelli Turkoglu 6
Blake Bryant Walton 4
Blake Bryant Banks 4 Blake Bryant Banks 4
48 48
第四年是貴了些, 不過如果Kobe打PG, 也還算是可勉強維持戰績
Bryant 30.4M
Gasol 19.2M
Artest 7.7M
Turkoglu 12.2M
75.2M
我是一個很不喜歡薪資卡死的球迷,
不過面臨03T大行動, 我覺得值得一試
另一點, 如果第一年效果不好,又或者魔術對熱火沒造成威脅
還可以把Turkoglu換回魔術還有希望
2011-2012 12-13 13-14
Turkoglu 10.6M 11.4M 12.2M
又或者用Odom+Turkoglu 換 Melo
(這好像太貪心了, 不過Melo一走, 金塊陣容殘破, 說不定有希望)
暴龍會願意換嗎?
錢可以省不少, 重建可以快一些, 反正未必能進季後賽
Vujacic + Walton <-> Turkoglu + 選秀x1 可以省 21.6M
Vujacic + Walton <-> Turkoglu + Belinelli 可以省 27.2M
第一年 第二年 第三年 第四年 總額
Vujacic 5475000 0 0 0 5475000
Walton 5260000 5680000 6100000 0 17040000
sum 10735000 5680000 6100000 0 22515000
Belinelli 2380270 3377604 0 0 5757874
Turkoglu 9800000 10600000 11400000 12200000 44000000
sum 12180270 13977604 11400000 12200000 49757874
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參考各位板上大老的建議,
想了方案4, 如果沒簽Blake是很可行的 XD
Out <-> In
Lakers Vujacic + Walton <-> Turkoglu + Gibson
+ 1輪選秀x2 + 2輪選秀x2
Raptors Turkoglu <-> West + Gibson + Moon
+ 1輪選秀x2 + 2輪選秀x2
Cavaliers West + Gibson + Moon <-> Vujacic + Walton
大抵上是這樣,
Cavaliers 總共省1.5M, 拿搞壞球隊的West換Vujacic, (本來就要丟的,也留不下了)
替補PG/Gibson三年約+替補SF/Moon兩年約 換SF/Walton三年約
今年到期約多1M
Raptors 總共省33.1M 用掉4個選秀 (其中兩個從Bosh S&T來)
丟掉不爽的SF/ Turkoglu 換來 SF/Moon + SG/West(可以丟掉)
Lakers 共多34.6 M (如果不簽Blake, 扣給Blake約 12M/3yrs, 其實只多約22.6M)
簽下Fisher, Gibson使用方式同原先方案2的Blake,
Gibson 3PT career .424
比原先方案2多拿4個選秀權 (一輪x2, 二輪x2),剛好補上2012以後缺乏roster的問題,
what a wonderful world!
方案4如果Raptors不同意就傻了, 瞬間解決簽錯大爛約問題.
對Cavaliers也處理掉West這個大麻煩
數據如下
交易前
Lakers 10-11 11-12 12-13 13-14 總額
Vujacic 5.475 0 0 0 5.475
Walton 5.26 5.68 6.1 0 17.04
sum 10.74 5.68 6.10 0.00 22.52
Raptors
Turkoglu 9.8 10.6 11.4 12.2 44
Cavaliers
West 4.66 0.00 0.00 0.00 4.66
Gibson 4.02 4.40 4.79 0.00 13.21
Moon 2.97 3.19 0.00 0.00 6.16
sum 11.64 7.59 4.79 0.00 24.03
交易後
Lakers 10-11 11-12 12-13 13-14 總額
Turkoglu 9.80 10.60 11.40 12.20 44.00
Gibson 4.02 4.40 4.79 0.00 13.21
sum 13.82 15.00 16.19 12.20 57.21
Raptors
West 4.66 0.00 0.00 0.00 4.66
J.Moon 2.97 3.19 0.00 0.00 6.16
sum 7.63 3.19 0.00 0.00 10.82
Cavaliars
Vujacic 5.48 0.00 0.00 0.00 5.48
Walton 5.26 5.68 6.10 0.00 17.04
sum 10.74 5.68 6.10 0.00 22.52
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