Re: [外電] Lamar Odom: Is It Too Late?
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: http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=13332
: Lamar Odom: Is It Too Late?
: By: Eric Pincus Last Updated: 7/15/09 4:46 PM ET
: Assuming the Los Angeles Lakers cut guard Sun Yue before August 1st, they are
: committed to 12 players for the 2009/10 season at a total payroll of $83.8
: million.
孫大聖八月一號說掰掰,預計開季時湖人有十二名球員,八千三百八十萬的薪資。
: Add in some $13.9 million in luxury taxes and the Lakers are on the hook for
: $97.8 million.
加上要付出的一千三百九十萬豪華稅,球員支出來到了九千七百八十萬。
: Making an offer to free agent forward Lamar Odom took significant
: deliberation between General Manger Mitch Kupchak and the Buss family.
: Faced with the prospect of record overhead and a much tighter profit margin,
: owner Dr. Jerry Buss was quoted by Kupchak as saying, "But we're so damn
: competitive."
老闆和總管之間就LO的合約進行討論,面對緊繃的狀況(翻得很混)
老闆引用了總管所說的,我們還是這麼他喵的有競爭力。
: In giving Odom a chance to make at least $27 million over three years, the
: Lakers felt they were doing the right by Lamar while making the sound
: basketball decision despite the exorbitant cost.
: Unless the Utah Jazz match Paul Millsap's offer sheet and the Portland Trail
: Blazers turn their attention to Lamar, the Lakers may be the only team with
: bidding power.
湖人認為給三年兩千七百萬已經仁至義盡。
除非宅爵跟進小米的約使阿拓必須轉移注意力到LO身上,
湖人也許是(市場上)唯一有權叫價的球隊。
: A $34 million Mid-Level Exception deal over five years from a team like the
: Miami HEAT, still isn't close to what the Lakers have offered (even with the
: state tax advantage in Florida - although that perk would be on just half
: Lamar's salary, road games are taxed locally)
: Odom's reluctance to take what the team considers a generous offer has led to
: a stalemate. For now the Lakers have taken it off the table and are
: considering other options.
就算熱火提出五年三千四百萬的中產,也沒辦法跟湖人相提並論,
即使佛州有稅務上的優勢,可以讓LO的薪水少砍一半。
在客場打球,課稅還是在地主所在地。
(請看總版#1ANlkcOw claus的文章)
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LO不願意接受這份球團認為慷慨的合約讓狀況陷入僵局。
現在湖人(/‵Д′)/~ ╧╧,而且決定考慮其他選擇。
: Strictly from a financial point of view, it makes sense to go after a veteran
: like Joe Smith with a minimum contract despite the drop down in talent.
: Smith is an experienced defender who could help behind Andrew Bynum and Pau
: Gasol even if it's a net loss on the floor considering Lamar's versatility.
: Odom at an $8 million starting salary would cost $16 million with tax and tip
: the total payroll to $113.8 million.
: Smith at the veteran's minimum would up L.A.'s payroll to $99.4 million.
: Buss was willing to authorize that additional $14.4 million but to a player
: who takes that as an insult?
從財務的觀點,找些有經驗的老兵給個最小的合約也是合情合理的,
如Joe Smith。他擅長防守,能幫助霸男及嘎獸,
雖然這樣勢必要犧牲能在球場上全面發揮的LO。
付給LO八百萬等於實質上要支出一千六百萬,
並讓球隊總支出到達 一億一千三百八十萬。
Smith頂多讓湖人總支出到 九千九百四十萬。
Buss願意接受只為了一個球員多付一千四百四十萬 的結果嗎?
: In truth, average salary hasn't been an issue for some time. The debate has
: always been about years.
: It took some time to get L.A. to three years but they got there. Odom's camp
: wants five.
事實上,錢不是問題,問題在年限。湖人出三年,LO想要五年。
: Five years would make Odom the lone Laker under a guaranteed contract in
: 2013/14, with recently signed Ron Artest owning a player option. Committed
: $10 million to a 35-year-old Odom when the team may be embarking on a rebuild
: is not a consideration.
五年能讓LO身穿紫金戰袍到13-14球季,跟剛簽約的阿泰一起。
屆時LO三十五歲,有一千萬合約,在可能要重建的球隊中可能不再被考慮。
: Four years for Odom may be workable with Andrew Bynum's $16.1 million on the
: team's option and just Luke Walton and Artest locked in for a combined $13.1
: million - although adding in near $10 million for Odom could hamper L.A.'s
: ability to reload.
給LO四年的約也許是可行的,
屆時加上霸男的有球隊選擇權的約,有一千六百一十萬,
加上天行者和(有球員選擇權)的阿泰,合計一千三百一十萬,
--雖然能夠多給LO近一千萬,是超過了湖人的負荷能力。
(這裡需要請高手解釋一下)
: There's a good chance the Lakers lock down Kobe Bryant until the end of the
: 2014 season but Odom doesn't exactly have Bryant's cachet.
: It comes down to the same decision the Boston Celtics had to make on James
: Posey a year ago. They offered three years and Posey wanted four. Boston
: passed and never found a suitable replacement.
: Even without Kevin Garnett, would the Celtics have lost Game 7 to the Orlando
: Magic if Posey was defending Hedo Turkoglu (25 points and 12 assists)?
:
現在是個讓老大留到2014球季結束的好機會,
但LO並未確實擁有老大的保證。
("but Odom doesn't exactly have Bryant's cachet.")
現在的狀況有如一年前的綠衫軍與Posey,綠衫軍提出三年,但後者想要四年。
綠衫軍放棄了而且沒有找到合適的代替者。
即使沒有了一打五(誤),在有Posey防守火槍兵(25分12助攻)的情況下
綠衫軍還會輸掉第七戰嗎?
: Posey ended up struggling in New Orleans, ultimately having surgery to repair
: a meniscus tear, but the Celtics may have given up a chance to win now
: because of distant financial concern in four year's time.
Posey最後因為動手術修復膝蓋半月板而結束了在紐奧良的球季,
但綠衫軍也許為了這四年的財務考量放棄了獲勝的機會。
: Odom is looking at his peers including Turkoglu, Ben Gordon, Andersen Varejao
: and Andrea Bargnani (via contract extension) who were all recipients of big
: dollars and years from their respective teams.
Odom想和他的同儕如火槍兵,假摔王,Ben Gordon,Andrea Bargnani一樣,
從各自的球隊拿到肥約。
: Lamar is coming off a championship run.
: There's no black and white answer. The Lakers and Dr. Buss aren't getting
: outbid by a team with cap space. With revenue projections taking a dive next
: year, the tax bill will only climb.
LO正在脫離冠軍的行列。這沒有絕對的答案,湖人和老闆並未在薪資空間上得利。
當下季收入計畫出現下降時,稅單只會往上爬。
: Odom has had a mixed career as a Laker with unreached potential as a star
: dogged by inconsistent play . . . but Lamar has always been also a positive
: voice in the locker room. This year he accepted a demotion to the bench but
: was such a key part of the rotation, he was just as responsible for the
: championship as any starter.
LO並沒有在湖人發揮出他明星等級的潛力,而且表現並不穩定。
但LO在更衣室裡總是發出正面的聲音,
他也接受了板凳的角色,但仍然是這個輪替中的關鍵。
他盡責地為冠軍付出,就跟任何先發球員一樣。
: In the end, there remains a viable chance the saber rattling ceases and both
: parties hash out a compromise.
: If not, finding a sign-and-trade could be quite difficult. The Lakers will
: only take the perfect combination of players back both in talent and price.
最後,仍然有機會讓拔出咖哩棒互砍的雙方找出一個妥協方案的機會。
(按:這裡有本人的惡趣味,請多包涵)
如果不行,尋求先簽後換也是非常難的。
湖人將只找一個完美的球員能力與價格兼得的方法。
: The Chicago Bulls aren't likely to give up both Kirk Hinrich and Joakim Noah.
: The Charlotte Bobcats aren't going to package Raymond Felton and Boris Diaw.
: Rumors of a Miami offer including Michael Beasley and Mario Chalmers appear
: to be nothing more than internet chatter.
: For now, Kupchak will explore the options but instead of giving Odom leverage
: via sign and trade, Mitch is more likely to explore minimum options like
: Smith, Drew Gooden (a stretch at the price?) or Brian Skinner.
公牛不會同時放掉Hinrich and Noah,
山貓的也不會把Felton跟屌爺一起打包.
要熱火送出Beasley和Chalmers?想太多。
現在,總管要找到選項,除了先簽後換讓LO能有操作空間這一招。
總管更有可能尋求Smith,Drew Gooden或是Brian Skinner,
: The end of this story hasn't been written but the desire remains on both
: sides to get something done.
: Unfortunately for Lamar, the Lakers are the team with the spending power.
: Once Dr. Buss moves on, there may be no turning back and Odom could end up
: in a similar position as Trevor Ariza . . . signing for less money in a
: smaller market with a diminished chance at a second title.
故事還沒結束,但是雙方都有一些事要完成。
對LO來說不幸的是,湖人是擴張中的強權。
當老闆前進,他們就不會回頭,LO也就會落得Ariza一般的下場--
在一個小的市場拿了一份小的合約,然後縮小了第二個冠軍的機會。
: (You can follow Eric Pincus on Twitter at http://www.Twitter.com/EricPincus.)
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