Re: [閒聊] 女團MR Removed小心得
看板KoreaStar作者LilacSnow (販劍 製杖 持盾)時間8年前 (2016/06/12 23:50)推噓228(229推 1噓 319→)留言549則, 104人參與討論串2/2 (看更多)
不是針對原波,只是剛好最近在看到 MR removed 的"意義"
逆風回一下,大家看看就好。
以下是 kpopalypse 對 mr removed 的評論
短網址:http://tiny.cc/na65by
原網址:
https://kpopalypse.wordpress.com/2013/09/17/her-talents-are-huge-why-mr-videos-are-all-bullshit/
kpopalypse 部落格主自己就是作音樂的(stage, studio, DJ),
也有 audio engineering 學位。
此篇對 mr removed 的評論全英文也很長,
但結論就是 mr removed 不但不能聽出什麼唱歌的實力,
你甚至連是不是現場唱的都分不出來。
主要是因為 mr removed 的技術說穿了就兩種:
1. phase cancellation
2. stereo banpass filtering
phase cancellation 就跟 active noise cancelling 的原理是一樣的
把現場音拿來,用 studio version reversed 來取消全部 studio recording 的音。
但這會造成什麼結果呢?
你只會聽到現場音跟 studio 音"不一樣"的部分。
現場音 =/= 現場唱的音。
他們可以另外錄一份跟 studio version 不一樣的歌唱部份,
然後現場放出來,你又怎麼知道那是先錄的(如果你拿不到那份錄音來 cancel)
或是他們真的現場"唱"出來的?
現場放出來的音,因為音響的問題,
跟 studio version 一定聽起來會不一樣,會有雜音。
這些雜音也會混到"現場音"裡。
另外,如果他們現場唱的部分真的是 CD swallowing 的好,跟 studio 一模一樣,
那代表他們的音在 mr removed 處理後會被 studio version 給取消掉,
你根本聽不到。
至於 stereo banpass filtering 就是把其他伴奏的頻率去掉,
但一樣,你聽到的是"現場音",至於現場音是不是現場唱的音,
你根本無從分辨。
最後關於"修音",連瑪麗亞凱莉都有用了,你說韓偶有沒有用呢?
短網址:http://tiny.cc/rc65by
原網址:
https://kpopalypse.wordpress.com/2015/08/02/vocal-fakery-how-likely-is-it-in-k-pop-fuckin-likely/
結論就是,stage performance 的 mr removed 聽聽就好,它並不能證明什麼。
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