[鍵盤] 凱華Box軸心厚度量測比較表

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我在昨天GMK Laser的開箱文裡提到目前凱華Box軸的狀況後，發現推文也是有一些苦主，想一想決定把在Reddit r/mk看到熱心網友實測的文章給翻譯過來讓大家參考。以下內容的翻譯及轉貼已經得到原作者的首肯，也會在本文完成後另行將文章網址提供給原作者。以下內容由Reddit上面的u/Pleanpo所量測及撰寫，由我針對一些重點部分做翻譯。原文網址：https://redd.it/91u9d4 Hello, I am Pleanpo. I have been browsing reddit/discord/geekhack and came across a few posts/comments claiming that Kailh Box Switches are breaking keycaps in specific, GMK sets. 原作者u/Pleanpo表示他已經在Reddit、discord及Geekhack等討論區提出Box軸會導致鍵帽的損壞，其中又以GMK出產的鍵帽災情最為嚴重。 About a week ago I decided that I wanted to give Kailh Box switches a try and ordered the 17 switches tester off of KBDfans to see which one would suite me the best. After hearing about the controversy surrounding the caps I decided to test each switches stem thickness individually to see how they compare to competitors in the market. 在距今約三週 (此文是約在15天前時發布在Reddit上的r/mechanicalkeyboards)，作者決定向KBDfans(怡科外設)訂購了一組17個軸體的試軸器來找出最適合自己的軸體。而當他最近得知凱華Box軸所導致的災情時，他決定親自去量測他手上所擁有軸的軸心厚度。 The tool I used is a 6 In. Steel Digital Caliper made by General which has a accuracy of ±0.001 in./0.02mm. This was deemed accurate enough to test my findings based on the results that were found. 作者使用的量測儀器是由General公司所生產的6英吋鋼製電子卡尺，而製造商宣稱這個儀器的誤差值可以達到正負0.02mm。也因此原作者認為這樣的準確度下量測出來的結果應是具有一定的公信力在。 Below I have created a table of my findings and have included an Imgur album with photos of all the switches and thicknesses found. The table will follow the order of the album. All measurements were done in mm with the caliper being zeroed after each switch. 作者除了做了以下的表格來說明量測結果外，他還另外附上每次量測時所拍的照片 ( https://imgur.com/a/A5nPojy )。表格的順序同照片的順序，作者表示他在每一次量完成後會先將卡尺手動歸零後再進行下一個軸的測試。以下便是表格的部分： | 軸體厚度量測 | ┌─────────────┬───────────┬───────────┐ │ 軸體名稱 │ 橫向厚度 (單位: mm) │ 直向厚度 (單位: mm) │ ├─────────────┼───────────┼───────────┤ │ Tealio │ 1.26 │ 1.09 │ ├─────────────┼───────────┼───────────┤ │ Gateron Black │ 1.25 │ 1.09 │ ├─────────────┼───────────┼───────────┤ │ Cherry Silent Black │ 1.27 │ 1.09 │ ├─────────────┼───────────┼───────────┤ │ Zealio │ 1.26 │ 1.07 │ ├─────────────┼───────────┼───────────┤ │ Kailh Box Navy │ 1.36 │ 1.22 │ ├─────────────┼───────────┼───────────┤ │ Kailh Box Blue │ 1.39 │ 1.16 │ ├─────────────┼───────────┼───────────┤ │ Kailh Box Jade │ 1.39 │ 1.21 │ ├─────────────┼───────────┼───────────┤ │ Kailh Box White │ 1.42 │ 1.24 │ ├─────────────┼───────────┼───────────┤ │ Kailh Box Brown │ 1.39 │ 1.17 │ ├─────────────┼───────────┼───────────┤ │ Kailh Box Yellow │ 1.40 │ 1.19 │ ├─────────────┼───────────┼───────────┤ │ Kailh Box Orange │ 1.41 │ 1.10 │ ├─────────────┼───────────┼───────────┤ │ Kailh Box Black │ 1.30 │ 1.19 │ ├─────────────┼───────────┼───────────┤ │ Kailh Box Red │ 1.38 │ 1.14 │ ├─────────────┼───────────┼───────────┤ │ Kailh Box Royal │ 1.34 │ 1.15 │ ├─────────────┼───────────┼───────────┤ │ Kailh Pro Burgundy │ 1.27 │ 1.10 │ ├─────────────┼───────────┼───────────┤ │ Kailh Pro Purple │ 1.27 │ 1.10 │ ├─────────────┼───────────┼───────────┤ │ Kailh Pro Light Green │ 1.27 │ 1.10 │ └─────────────┴───────────┴───────────┘ 手機好讀版： https://i.imgur.com/UvwbzPj.png

These measurements show that the Kailh's Box switch on average is larger than competitors by .1 mm on the x-axis and y-axis. I would like to point out that the Kailh Pro switches were not larger than competitors and fit in the threshold for size. This increase in size can be harmful and possible damaging to keysets. Finally, I would like to know what Kailh's response to these findings will be and how they will handle this situation. 從上述的量測結果可以看出凱華Box軸的軸心厚度普遍比其他軸來得厚，不管是橫向或縱向平均起來大約都有著0.1mm的差距，然而原作者也特別強調說凱華的Pro系列軸體與其他廠牌的產品比起來沒有過大的差別。不過以Box軸來說，這樣子多出來的厚度極有可能對鍵帽造成無法挽回的傷害。最後他也提到他希望凱華能夠正式做出個回應，也一併說明他們後續的應對方式。(譯：有興趣的可以點進網頁裡看討論，我記得是本篇我有看到有人轉貼凱華的回覆。) Thank you for reading, if you would like more measurements done on any of the switches show here or others leave a comments and I will be happy to post more data (if I have the switch). EDIT: A discord user of the name mgsickler (Mike from Novelkeys) brought this file to my attention. It is the product specification for Dark Blue box switches (navies). In the document it states that for the x-axis 1.32 mm +/- .02 mm is the intended size and for the y-axis 1.10 mm +/- .02 mm is the intended size. These numbers do not match up to my findings but I only have one sample size for navies and it could be an outlier. 後續原作者在discord注意到一篇由mgsickler的人所發表的文章，他的真實身分其實是 Novelkeys的老闆Mike。(譯者加註：Novelkeys算是近期與凱華合作開發最密切的店家，也透過凱華開發並販售了一系列以Box軸結構為基底的軸體在市場上大量販售。)在這篇文章裡，他表示當時Box Navy在設計時的規格是預計橫向部分為1.32 mm +/- 0.02 mm，縱向部分為1.10 mm +/- 0.02 mm。但原作者表示這個數字與他所量測出的結果有所落差，但因為他手邊也只有一個Box Navy，所以他也不方便下太過肯定的判斷。 ※重新翻了一些意思有點錯誤的段落。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 1.34.112.178 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Key_Mou_Pad/M.1533872611.A.E35.html

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