[外絮] Jeremy Lin & Kobe Bryant Have Very Dif

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Los Angeles Lakers – Jeremy Lin & Kobe Bryant Have Very Different Motivations 洛杉磯湖人 - 林書豪與Kobe Bryant的動機分岐 Posted on 4 Sep, 2014, by Greg in Basketball http://goo.gl/WSXbbe Every player, almost every new season, has something to prove. But that something? It differs from subject to subject, and maybe the two most important players this season for the Los Angeles Lakers, Jeremy Lin and Kobe Bryant, have a different set of goals going into the 2014-2015 NBA season. 每個球員在每個新球季都有些東西需要去證明,但需要去證明的東西就因人而異了。 像是洛杉磯湖人最重要的兩位球員,林書豪與Kobe Bryant在接下來的2014-15球季 就顯然有著不同的目標。 Lin is entering a contract year, after being overpaid, as most view it, by the Houston Rockets. It doesn't matter to most that he was used in the wrong way, treated unfairly by the head coach and put in a situation that didn't really give him a chance to succeed. Even when he did shine under the circumstances with great games that were about numbers, which is the bottom line for too many people, he was often overlooked. 今年是林的合約年,之前火箭隊一直認為他高薪低能,完全不管這是因為他們不照 使用說明書,及教練的不公平對待,使得他缺少成功的機會。 雖然林書豪即使在這個情況下,依然在許多場比賽有著優異的表現, 但對許多人來說這只不過是他薪水的最低要求而已, 他的貢獻仍然時常被忽視。(感謝azure0920幫忙修正) Kobe Bryant? He's here to prove he is still relevant. Despite being an MVP and a five-time NBA champions with two Finals' MVP awards, there is a drive that keeps pushing him. A few drives, actually. There's the hunt for that sixth ring, so he can feel like he matches Michael Jordan, his idol and rival in too many ways. This team won't win a championship and isn't set up to maybe for another year or two, partially because of Bryant's contract. But that doesn't stop Bryant from wanting, from dreaming of being good enough to carry this weird group despite everyone saying that he's too old, coming off an injury and simply not good enough again. Kobe Bryant則是需要證明他依然老當益壯。 儘管過去擁有一座季賽MVP,五枚冠軍戒及兩座季後賽的FMVP, 他還是有一件未達成的任務。他要的真的不多,第六枚冠軍戒。 唯有這樣他才能去和他的偶像與追逐的目標籃球之神Michael Jordan比肩。 只不過以目前的這支湖人隊是沒辦法拿冠軍的,少說也還需要再過一兩年的整合, 更別說他自己的超大合約也是禍首之一。 儘管大家都說他太老,受傷,或單純的就是不行了, 這些都不能阻止Bryant想要帶領球隊前進的意志。 Maybe that's the biggest driving force in Bryant's arsenal this season. The feeling that he's been counted out. With fingers pointing at him as the reason for the Lakers falling from grace and not being able to get up. He played only six games last season before being shut down. He obviously believes that he can still play like Bryant from years past, but that motivation might blind him to another obvious thing: Bryant trying too hard to play like a superstar comes at the cost of too many things. 因為上個球季他只打了六場球就因傷整季報銷, 他被質疑他就是那個湖人無法重建的禍首。 這種查甫郎被說不行的感覺,也許就是Bryant本季最大的趨動力。 他顯然相信他依然可以用從前的方式打球, 但這個強烈的鬥志也許會讓他對其他顯而易見的事情盲目, 也就是當Bryant太用力的想要打得像是一個超級球星時,需要付出什麼樣的代價。 Lin is a team player so obviously he'd love for the Lakers to win as many games as possible and maybe even sneak into the playoffs somehow, although that seems unlikely right now with their roster and especially terrible defense, in theory. However, Lin needs to think about himself as well. He'll be getting the starting point guard role if Byron Scott still remembers what it is to be a good NBA coach. Even if Nash starts at the point, his body won't last for long, and Lin should be getting plenty of minutes. 林是一個團隊型的球員,他顯然很樂意幫助湖人隊贏下每場球賽,甚至能夠進入季後賽。 雖然以他們目前的球員陣容與破爛的防守實在不大可能做到。 只是,林真的需要好好地為自己想一想。 如果Byron Scott還記得怎麼當個好教練的話,林應該會成為先發控衛。 不過,就算是Nash打先發,以他的身體狀況大概也沒辦法打太久, 林應該會有許多上場機會。 Lin is special not just because of how he broke out into awareness, but also for what he is as a player: A guy who makes the team better by being on the floor, completely unselfish and always looking to make others better. He has been compared to Steve Nash more than once, but he needs more than just to improve his shooting to fit the mold – he needs to be given that kind of chance without fearing the bench punishment for every little mistake. 林之所以特別並不只是因為他的知名度,更在於他是一個什麼樣的球員: 一個完全無私,總是找尋更好出手機會來讓球隊變得更有效率的球員。 雖然他已經常常被拿來與Steve Nash相提並論, 但他不只是需要提升他的投籃技巧, 他更需要不用擔心因為小錯就被關進冰箱冷凍庫的機會。 At some point, their goals collide and merge. Everyone wants to be on a winning team, to succeed. But it comes from a different place for every player, blended in with their personality. The problem for Lin going into this season just might be the drive behind Bryant's comeback attempt: With Bryant being the way he is, it might come at the expense of Lin's importance, making it another frustrating season for a point guard who can't catch a break. 也許在某個時間點,他們兩位球員的目標會有衝突並融合。 大家都要想贏球,都要想成功。 但每個球員都有不同的出發點和不同的人格特質。 林在這個球季將會碰到的問題,也許就是Bryant捲土重來的企圖。 當Bryant想要用他從前的方式打球,這樣可能會消減掉林的重要性, 讓林再次渡過一個令人沮喪的球季。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 111.243.98.91 ※ 文章網址: http://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Jeremy_Lin/M.1409965112.A.819.html ※ 編輯: jaywang4 (111.243.98.91), 09/06/2014 09:01:04

09/06 09:23, , 1F
bottom line->底線(限)?
09/06 09:23, 1F

09/06 10:08, , 2F
我會翻成: 即使在某些情形下林有了好成績(numbers)
09/06 10:08, 2F

09/06 10:11, , 3F
對許多人來說,以林的薪水來看,那不過是達成最低要
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09/06 10:11, , 4F
求(bottom line)而已
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09/06 10:13, , 5F
感謝幫忙
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※ 編輯: jaywang4 (111.243.98.91), 09/06/2014 10:18:05

09/06 10:21, , 6F
最後一句中肯,林還是要看老大的臉色(態度),其實就
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09/06 10:22, , 7F
跟在火箭時一樣…XD 只不過希望這次能不一樣點
09/06 10:22, 7F

09/06 10:52, , 8F
bottom line 的用法是"總而言之 ..." 在這裡應該
09/06 10:52, 8F

09/06 10:53, , 9F
說是在多人用"he was often overlooked"來評價林
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09/06 10:59, , 10F
感謝翻譯
09/06 10:59, 10F

09/06 11:08, , 11F
推翻譯
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09/06 11:16, , 12F
至少老大不會贏球就I 輸球就We 光這點就大勝了
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09/06 11:25, , 13F
M大,但是這個子句應該是在解釋numbers這個名詞
09/06 11:25, 13F

09/06 11:25, , 14F
翻成總而言之跟上下文不合啊...
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09/06 11:26, , 15F
推翻譯
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09/06 12:58, , 16F
老大說了好多次要改變打法, Just wait and see
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09/06 13:08, , 17F
蠻可能的
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09/06 13:44, , 18F
查伯朗我還想了一下 匝波郎會不會比較好 XDDDD
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09/06 14:05, , 19F
看老大自幹總比看sgg買飯好多了
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09/06 14:08, , 20F
其實老大上一季就有改變打法了 只是打沒多久就受傷.
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09/06 15:58, , 21F
感謝翻譯
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09/06 15:59, , 22F
老大連打鐵都比鬍子優美,但坦白說,現在的科仙不如鬍
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09/06 16:00, , 23F
Lin要背負的責任只會比火箭多
09/06 16:00, 23F

09/06 17:57, , 24F
其實有條件存在單打與團隊打法兩種打法的可能
09/06 17:57, 24F

09/06 17:59, , 25F
況且Lin現在也能相當程度克服無球打法了~不怕不怕
09/06 17:59, 25F

09/06 18:29, , 26F
kobe還蠻矛盾的,他想要團隊作戰,也說過Melo有了Lin
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09/06 18:31, , 27F
控球可以專注釋放進攻,可是他還是會要自己控制一切
09/06 18:31, 27F

09/06 18:33, , 28F
可能完美主義太龜毛都自己來,像Lin一樣愛當嗡嗡嗡
09/06 18:33, 28F
※ 編輯: jaywang4 (111.243.98.91), 09/06/2014 18:50:24

09/06 19:50, , 29F
以前一天到晚在擔心鋒頭蓋過鬍子,事實上也真的有
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09/06 19:51, , 30F
感覺官方會壓抑lin的鋒芒,接著就進冰箱~~這問題
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09/06 19:52, , 31F
還好不會發生在林科兩人身上,kobe在湖人地位根本
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09/06 19:52, , 32F
不用怕林的鋒芒,希望新球季林有好機會證明自己
09/06 19:52, 32F

09/06 19:54, , 33F
因為真正的巨星是不怕他人搶奪光芒的 巨猩才怕
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09/06 20:30, , 34F
感謝翻譯 翻譯的好生動!!
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09/06 23:23, , 35F
我科真巨星
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09/06 23:28, , 36F
想到某球員怕林蓋過光芒怕成那樣就覺得好好笑
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09/06 23:28, , 37F
懦夫
09/06 23:28, 37F
還有 72 則推文
09/08 14:10, , 110F
無論何時何地何隊,都不希望有人受傷,球員的青春
09/08 14:10, 110F

09/08 14:10, , 111F
有限,幹嘛詛咒人家受傷?萬一受傷導致數據差而拿
09/08 14:10, 111F

09/08 14:10, , 112F
不到續約,你要幫忙養他全家嗎?雖然說老大的錢夠他
09/08 14:10, 112F

09/08 14:10, , 113F
吃好幾輩子,不怕沒球打,但是「隊友受傷」絕對算
09/08 14:10, 113F

09/08 14:10, , 114F
不上「最佳狀況」,要講這種話請私下講,不要在林
09/08 14:10, 114F

09/08 14:10, , 115F
版宣揚這種歪曲的想法。真是見鬼了,七月半不是過了
09/08 14:10, 115F

09/08 14:10, , 116F
嗎?
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09/08 14:12, , 117F
老大受傷全給LIN發揮,是要操死LIN嗎?
09/08 14:12, 117F

09/08 14:20, , 118F
如果老大迷說希望林受傷,你做何想法?#己所不欲
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09/08 15:03, , 119F
另外, 林在面對壓迫性防守時也會有護球不佳的狀況,
09/08 15:03, 119F

09/08 15:04, , 120F
少了老大吸引包夾, 對方就很容易可以把身為攻勢發起
09/08 15:04, 120F

09/08 15:04, , 121F
點的PG守住
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09/08 15:05, , 122F
即使是受傷打了折的老大, 應該還是沒有球隊會放鬆對
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09/08 15:05, , 123F
他的守備
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09/08 15:18, , 124F
你要怎麼想我是管不著拉 不過說話請小心點 不要引起
09/08 15:18, 124F

09/08 15:19, , 125F
爭議 希望球員受傷本來就是不好的事 請不要在林板
09/08 15:19, 125F

09/08 15:20, , 126F
說這種言論 謝謝
09/08 15:20, 126F

09/08 15:35, , 127F
請問Wol大你真的是林迷嗎 應該說你真的喜歡林嗎
09/08 15:35, 127F

09/08 15:35, , 128F
如果是的話 就不該會這樣有心存惡念的想法
09/08 15:35, 128F

09/08 15:36, , 129F
且你在林板有這樣的言論會嚴重招黑 林及林迷都會受
09/08 15:36, 129F

09/08 15:37, , 130F
害 所以不希望此類言論在此板 至少是此板出現~~
09/08 15:37, 130F

09/08 15:38, , 131F
況且對方還是新隊友 你要知道 誰受傷 林本人一定
09/08 15:38, 131F

09/08 15:38, , 132F
千百個不願意 林絕對希望全員健康 然後新球季至少
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09/08 15:39, , 133F
打進季後賽 然後一起走到最後~~ 我們林迷也絕對希望
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09/08 15:40, , 134F
大家都保持健康 且團結一致 不管未來林是否續留
09/08 15:40, 134F

09/08 15:40, , 135F
都該抱持著謙虛且正面的心態 迎接新球季
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09/08 16:32, , 136F
放心啦 火箭是被鬍 帥 獸搶球
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09/08 16:33, , 137F
湖人除了老大和young其他都有限
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09/08 16:33, , 138F
沒球不是一個人的問題
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09/08 16:36, , 139F
火箭那三個都會一直call球阿
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09/08 16:37, , 140F
林又不被教練重視 當然 如果老大和兩年前打法一
09/08 16:37, 140F

09/08 16:37, , 141F
樣 那還是快逃吧
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09/08 17:37, , 142F
幾位板友可能沒有真的看湖人十幾年的球 而是憑網路
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09/08 17:37, , 143F
印象來論定的
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09/08 17:41, , 144F
新板友
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09/08 17:52, , 145F
如果湖人戰術真像W大講的半場把球給老大 那禪師跟Mc
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09/08 17:52, , 146F
Hale不是一樣
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09/08 18:20, , 147F
在箭隊手感太燙>B 3分不進>B TO>B 得分太多>B 要找
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09/08 18:21, , 148F
到第二個這樣惡搞u林的球隊..除非冰箱跟過來當教練
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09/09 17:18, , 149F
KOBE傷可能要避免長時間持球
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