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看板Jeremy_Lin作者 (赤いの靈)時間11年前 (2013/10/31 15:12), 編輯推噓105(1050166)
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Why The Rockets Benched Jeremy Lin A Year After Giving Him $25 Million 為何火箭給林兩千五百萬還給他板凳? Link: http://0rz.tw/hxDrp Jeremy Lin has lost the starting point guard job for the Houston Rockets, according to teammate Chandler Parsons. 根據高富帥, 林輸掉了先發位置 Patrick Beverley will start in his place, and Lin will come off the bench 15 months after signing a three-year, $25 million deal. PB會先發, 而林, 在簽下三年兩千五百萬的15個月後, 會從板凳出發 This isn't exactly an indictment of Lin's game. While he didn't live up to that big contract last year, his numbers in points, assists, shooting percentage, and turnovers didn't fall off that much from his unreal year in New York. 這不是對林譴責, 雖然他上季沒有對得起他的大薪水 但他的得分, 助攻, 命中率, 失誤 也沒有跟他在紐約那不真實的年度差太遠 He's not a lost cause, as some people are making him out to be. He's just a bad fit for this specific Rockets team, for two reasons: 雖然有人說林是失敗的 , 但並不是 只是林跟現在 火箭先發無法融合, 因為兩個原因 1) Lin's skillset is redundant with James Harden's skillset. 2) Houston's starting lineup needs defense and three-point shooting, which aren't Lin's strengths. 1. 林的技能跟鬍子重疊太多 2. 先發組需要防守跟三分, 剛好不是林的強項 James Harden is a ball-dominant scoring guard. He's a solid three-point shooter and one of the most lethal penetrating guards in the league. He puts up gaudy numbers, but needs the ball in his hands to do his thing (he was 9th in the league in usage rate last year). 鬍子是粘球的SG, 他是非常好的三分射手, 也是聯盟中最會切入的後衛 他能給出華麗的數據, 但他需要一球在手 (上季中他的使用率聯盟排名第九) Lin is a similar type of player. He's great off the dribble and he's a decent enough shooter to create driving lanes. But he also needs the ball in his hands to maximize his strengths. 林也是差不多類型的, 切入很強而且也是不錯的射手, 幫助他打開切入道 但他也需要一球在手才能得到最大效益 He's basically a worse version of Harden (which isn't as bad as it sounds considering Harden's one of the best players in the league). Last year, their offensive numbers both got significantly better when the other guy was on the bench 林基本上是弱化版的鬍子 (事實上不想字面上說的那樣差, 你得考慮鬍子 已經是聯盟的高手之一) 看去年數據, 他們的攻擊數據都會在對方不在場上時有顯著的提升 http://0rz.tw/HNvSK http://0rz.tw/dZngf Only 16% of Lin's minutes came with Harden on the bench last year, despite the fact that his stats were way, way better without Harden. That should change with Lin coming off the bench in 2013-14, and both players will benefit. 儘管鬍子不在場上時林的數據超級好, 可是去年只有16%的場上時間林是不跟鬍子一起的 今年讓林從板凳出發就會改變, 而且對兩人都是利多 The other big reason Beverley is starting: defense and three-point shooting. Houston was a phenomenal offensive team in 2012-13 (6th in the league in points per 100 possessions), and an average defensive team (16th in the league in points per 100 possessions allowed). 另外一個讓PB先發的原因: 防守跟三分 火箭在去年是一個火力旺盛的球隊 (每100個球權得分全聯盟第六名) 也是一個普通的防守隊伍 (每100個球權失分第16名) The offensive is already at an elite level. They need to improve on the other end. 所以, 進攻已經超強了, 該加強防守了 That's where Beverely comes in. 所以PB出現了 It's a limited sample size since he only played in 41 games, but last year Houston's offensive efficiency stayed exactly the same with and without Beverley (111.0), but their defensive efficiency improved by ~5 points per 100 possessions with him on the court. 樣本數不多, 因為只有41場比賽 但是不論PB有沒有在場上火箭的進攻效率是差不多的 (111.0) 但當PB在場上防守效率變好, 每100個球權失分減少五分 http://0rz.tw/ODZNg Since James Harden doesn't play any defense, much of Houston's defensive responsibilities on the perimeter fall to whoever is the second guard. Beverley's a better defender than Lin, so it makes sense to play him alongside the defense-adverse Harden. 因為鬍子完全不防守的, 所以外圍防守重任就落在另外一個後衛身上 PB防守比林好, 所以讓PB跟鬍子一起比較好 (誰叫鬍子防守爛) In addition, Beverley is a better, more reliable three-point shooter. He shoots 37.5% to Lin's 33.9%. With Harden collapsing the defense off the dribble and Dwight Howard commanding double-teams in the post, there are going to be a ton of open threes for this unit. Beverley can knock them down better than Lin can. There's a degree of indignity to Houston benching Lin like this. But when you dig into the reasons why it's not necessarily as bad for Lin as it looks. 另外, PB是比較好的三分射手 37.5% vs 33.9% 當鬍子切入破壞防守, 以及DH在藍下時對方會包夾. 外圍就有很多空檔三分. PB在這方面比林做得好 當然球隊把林放板凳有某種程度的輕蔑,侮辱. 但是當你挖深一點看後面的原因 it's not necessarily as bad for Lin as it looks (不想翻, 反正就是說沒那麼遭) 這兩篇就是純粹翻譯, 不放感想了 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 27.240.103.178

10/31 15:19, , 1F
原罪啊...
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10/31 15:20, , 3F
感謝翻譯!今年誰是比較好的3分射手?講太快會被打臉喔
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10/31 15:21, , 4F
兩篇類似的論調, 不過這兩篇我都不喜歡其中的某些語句..
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10/31 15:22, , 5F
一切合理化 真厲害
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10/31 15:22, , 6F
也就是我會跳過不翻的原因
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10/31 15:32, , 7F
中肯文 先不先發不重要 上場時間才是關鍵
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10/31 15:35, , 8F
怎辦,我好容易被說服喔
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10/31 15:40, , 9F
那是因為他今天表現好
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10/31 15:44, , 10F
是因為今天Lin和老賈當上救火隊才有亮點吧...
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10/31 15:45, , 11F
平常只是單純延續先發陣容得分手的火力的話反差又不同了.
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10/31 15:46, , 12F
如果哈登不防守,要奪冠蠻難的
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10/31 15:47, , 13F
哈登大概要完全找不回手感才開始改開防守mode...
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10/31 15:48, , 14F
老實說已經被拔先發,再多說什麼都無意義,再看這種文章
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10/31 15:49, , 15F
只會讓人更生氣
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10/31 15:50, , 16F
昨天看這文章看到一半就不想看了 滿滿的吐槽點
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10/31 15:50, , 17F
這文章要大家吃河蟹
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10/31 15:51, , 18F
防守也很難說 之前PB對替補比較多
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10/31 15:51, , 19F
總不能選擇性翻譯啊,可以討論的文還是得翻
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10/31 15:53, , 20F
我想後續會有更多看好戲暗酸的文章出現…
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10/31 15:54, , 21F
翻譯雖然該感激,但拜託類似的不要再來,讓林迷好好療傷
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10/31 15:56, , 22F
這樣講得我不是林迷故意翻這兩篇...
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10/31 15:57, , 23F
說真的,我覺得林版歪掉了
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10/31 15:58, , 24F
翻這兩篇我也有猶豫,但秉持可討論有論點的文,我還是
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10/31 15:58, , 25F
翻了
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10/31 15:59, , 26F
已經戰過兩百回的文章觀點,有看林版大家都清楚
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10/31 15:59, , 27F
總不能只翻pro, 不翻con 吧
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10/31 16:01, , 28F
沒有可以繼續討論的,就看下去還能怎樣
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10/31 16:02, , 29F
真的是舊聞了,該戰的也都戰完了。就看下去吧~
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10/31 16:04, , 30F
可以面對現實,但不想在林版一直被提醒現實有多殘酷
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10/31 16:16, , 31F
就繼續看下去就知道,先記住本意,看陸續怎麼河蟹
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10/31 16:16, , 32F
不會阿~~還是感謝翻譯~~~
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10/31 16:18, , 33F
別在一直把觀點被文章拉走就行了,先站住本意~才看得楚
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10/31 16:24, , 34F
還是感謝翻譯 雖然文章內容不認同XD
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10/31 16:25, , 35F
這種文看得夠多了,是po來作什麼的?
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10/31 16:26, , 36F
今天看到帕森斯不傳給林,林貝同時上場時由貝控球,火都起
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10/31 16:27, , 37F
來了。林遭到排擠孤立,還要找一堆理由幫球隊分辯,莫名其
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10/31 16:28, , 38F
有翻譯有推! 非常感謝 不過不知道外媒如何評論今天表現
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10/31 16:28, , 39F
妙。貝打先發,一個球隊有四個不會進攻的人,哈登狀況一下
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還有 192 則推文
10/31 23:48, , 232F
也所以這文章才讓人生氣,因為很多人因此被誤導
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10/31 23:50, , 233F
有數據佐證又如何?不想看見的還是當沒看見,各自相信去
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11/01 00:33, , 234F
lin苦練後三分已經準很多了...現在再提三分就很好笑....
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11/01 01:49, , 235F
面對事實吧,休士頓的教練團跟經理並不想把捧林成明星...
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11/01 01:50, , 236F
他們曾經蔑視過他,在面子上,他們的格調沒有高到讓林回來
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11/01 01:51, , 237F
打他們的臉:你們當初實在瞎了狗眼才會開除我。
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11/01 06:54, , 238F
我覺得還是要多看幾場比賽 才能知道LIN的三分如何 = =
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11/01 09:28, , 239F
Lin從熱身賽以來,三分命中率都相當高.....
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11/01 09:44, , 240F
應該說林先減少不必要的出手,讓給空檔更高的射手.
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11/01 09:46, , 241F
這個臨場判斷才是Lin在團隊進攻中的真價值.
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Lin的出手數已經很少了 不必要的出手通常不是他吧?XD
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我才覺得他應該增加出手咧 都上場幾分鐘才不到10次出手
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11/01 10:03, , 244F
昨天比賽機會都不知道給多少了 隊友不進他就應該多出手
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Lin根本沒有"不必要的出手" 從熱身賽以來一直都是這樣
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球都在球霸那,那有機會出手,有空檔也不傳,沒用啦~
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被一堆媒體譽為聯盟第1SG,根本衝暈頭了,滿腦子想著自幹
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明星賽要是第1SG比替補林的票還低就真的好笑了
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樓上你講話真的很直接... 但還是修飾一下比較好...
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11/01 10:12, , 250F
林的現況就是這樣啊~箭迷酸迷不高興可以左傳,這是林板,我
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11/01 10:13, , 251F
當然是替林抱不平。
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11/01 11:33, , 252F
不管是什麼版...還是尊重一下比較好...
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11/01 11:34, , 253F
G大可以修飾一下用詞 真的太直接了 林版很容易因為這種言
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11/01 11:34, , 254F
論比較過激的推文被地圖砲傷到
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11/01 13:39, , 255F
不必要的出手也有被迫的啊.(傳炸彈)
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11/01 13:51, , 256F
這個team常出現不必要出手的林書豪排得上號嗎
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11/01 13:53, , 257F
以上季來看,當哈登丟給他的時候,以這季來看,哈登是戰術打
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不出來或是哈登被針對.
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昨天Lin很多都是快速二次傳導給球啊.
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11/01 18:27, , 260F
送炸彈通常是信任
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11/01 18:29, , 261F
去年對湖人~CP投進的那一球~也是炸彈~
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11/01 18:59, , 262F
拜託,那球是因為哈登失誤,GS搶到球給Lin,Lin吸引包夾
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再傳給CP,球在Lin手上根本不到2秒吧!
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11/01 19:02, , 264F
所謂的炸彈,應該是某人在原地運球運半天,進攻時間都快
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結束了才傳出來,根本沒吸引到防守還害到隊友
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11/01 19:06, , 266F
而且Lin那時還沒接到球,冷笑話就揮手指示湖人球員去包
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夾Lin
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11/01 20:49, , 268F
plz大正解
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11/01 20:52, , 269F
LOL~哈
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11/01 22:41, , 270F
Lin給CP那球至少製造出空檔給CP,哈登的炸彈有過空檔嗎?
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大推plz大
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