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※ [本文轉錄自 Rockets 看板 #1HI7zGeI ] 作者: salazopyrin (salazopyrin) 看板: Rockets 標題: [外電] Why is Houston’s defense still bad? 時間: Tue Mar 19 23:07:58 2013 原文連結: http://www.red94.net/focusing-defensive-lapses/11976/#more-11976 Why is Houston’s defense still bad? By MICHAEL PINA | MARCH 18, 2013 at 10:00 AM 為什麼火箭的防守還是很爛? Since Donatas Motiejunas entered Houston’s starting lineup, that particular five-man unit has allowed just 95.6 points per 100 possessions. It’s an elite figure, but the sample size is far too small to attribute it any meaning. 自從D-MO被拉到先發後,這個5人組合讓對手平均每100次球權只得95.6分。這是一個蠻 出色的數據,但是樣本數太小所以也沒什麼意義。 Motiejunas has played only 11 games with Jeremy Lin, James Harden, Chandler Parsons and Omer Asik beside him on the court. Here are the teams they’ve gone against: Nets, Wizards, Bucks, Magic, Mavericks, Warriors, Suns, and Timberwolves. Two of those teams boast top 10 offenses (barely), two are average, and the remaining four all find themselves ranked at or near the bottom. D-MO跟林、哈登、帕帥還有阿西同時在場上的時候只有11場而已。以下這些是他們過去 幾場所面對的隊伍﹕籃網、巫師、公鹿、魔術、小牛、勇士、太陽以及灰狼。其中有兩 隻隊伍在進攻方面排名前十,還有兩隊在平均值左右,剩下的那幾隊不是墊底就是倒數 幾名。 For this entire season, Houston’s defense has been inadequate. Despite harboring one of the four or five best defensive centers in the game, along with a few players on the perimeter who can be disruptive on the ball, the Rockets have yet to figure out a consistent method to slow opposing offenses down. They allow 104.3 points per 100 possessions, making them the 10th worst defense in the NBA. 這一整個球季,火箭的防守一直都是不及格的。除了擁有在防守上前四或前五的中鋒以 及少數幾個能在外圍干擾球流動的人以外,火箭並沒有找出一個穩定的方法來阻止對方 的進攻。他們讓對手每100次球權得到104.3分,這是聯盟裡防守第十差的排名。 The good news is that most of their problems are correctable, or so it would seem. A vast majority of the open shots Houston allows are due to various mental mistakes: ball watching, losing track of shooters, failing to know when it’s time to shoot the gap and when it’s time to stick to your man, needlessly helping in the paint when proper help is already there. 好消息是,他們大部分的問題都是可以改善的,至少看起來是如此。大部份火箭讓對手 所跑出來的空檔都是來自於他們各種心態上的錯誤﹕只盯著球看,跟丟進攻者,不知道 什麼時候要撲出來阻止對方或是什麼時候要緊貼著對方,在禁區裡不需要協防的時候跑 來協防。 These are all mistakes the Rockets make constantly, but all can be fixed. They don’t require an upgrade in skill or personnel, but more a change in mindset when it comes to defensive discipline. The Rockets are the youngest team in the league, so to watch them still endure growing pains shouldn’t be a surprise. Here are several examples. 這些都是火箭一直不斷在犯的錯誤,所幸這些都可以被修正。不需要在個人或技巧上面 去提升,只需要在防守準則上改變他們的心態或是習慣。火箭是一隻聯盟裡最年輕的球 隊,所以看到他們還處於陣痛期一點也不意外。以下是一些例子。 (圖片連結) http://www.red94.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Lin-at-free-throw-line.png
Here we have Jeremy Lin standing at the free-throw line, leaving his man, Ricky Rubio, wide open behind the three-point line on the left wing. He’s there to help prevent a wide open driving lane for Timberwolves center Greg Stiemsma, who’s operating a side pick-and-roll with Luke Ridnour. 在上圖我們可以看到林站在罰球線上,離開他該防守的 Rubio,讓他在左側的三分線上 有一個大空檔。林站那邊是要防止灰狼中鋒 Stiemsma在跟Ridnour擋拆後有空間可以切 入。 Knowing the situation, is this really necessary? Let’s say Stiemsma catches the ball in motion at the right elbow. Then what? Even if Lin isn’t there, there are two back line defenders (Motiejunas and Parsons) plus the quick-footed Asik there to help. Also, Stiemsma isn’t good. 看了這種情況,林站在那邊真的是必要的嗎?假使,Stiemsma真的接到Ridnour的傳球, 然後呢?假設林不站在那邊,後面還有兩個防守球員D-MO跟帥哥,還有腳步不慢的阿西 也可以補防。再說,Stiemsma的進攻能力並不好。 Here’s what happens: 接下來發生的情況︰ (圖片連結) http://www.red94.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Lin-getting-backscreened-2.png
Timberwolves forward Dante Cunningham sets a back screen on Houston’s unsuspecting point guard, and Rubio is sprung for a wide open three ball. To Lin’s credit, this isn’t the most egregious play, being that Rubio is shooting less than 20% on three-pointers this season. But that doens’t mean he couldn’t position himself better. 灰狼前鋒Cunningham作了一個掩護擋住了火箭狀況外的控衛,Rubio得到了一個大空擋。 對林來說,這或許不是很糟糕的一球,因為Rubio本季的三分球命中率低於百分之二十, 但這並不表示林不能站在一個更好的位置上。 The first clip of this article features James Harden, Houston’s best offensive player and worst defensive player. We’ve seen this type of indifference from him all season. This play in particular is alarming, but easily preventable if he wants to prevent it. 哈登是這篇文章第一個短片的主角。他是火箭最強的進攻者也是火箭最差的防守者。在 本季我們已經看過太多次他這種不在乎的防守態度。灰狼這波進攻是個警訊,但如果哈 登願意的話他也可以輕易的避免這種錯誤。 (Harden leakout) http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=k7Cf_TRaVcg
Rubio takes a contested pull up jumper on the right side of the lane, and off Harden goes, out past the three-point line looking for a quick fastbreak opportunity. As the Timberwolves grab the offensive rebound, Harden is still backpedaling towards the other end. Why? Well, he wants the easy basket on the other end, that’s why. And if you’ve ever played basketball before, can you really blame him? The play results in a wide open mid-range jumper for Luke Ridnour; the type of shot he could swish with both eyes closed while fixing a sandwich. Rubio 在右邊急停跳投後,哈登已經開始偷跑了到三分線想要來個快攻。但是灰狼搶到 進攻籃板,哈登還是往另一邊跑,為什麼?好吧,因為他想要跑快攻,就這樣。而如果 你有打過籃球你會去責怪他嗎?這個結果是Ridnour在中距離有一個大空檔, 讓他可以 一邊閉著眼睛把球投進籃框然後一邊作三明治。 More on Harden later. 後面再來談哈登。 The next guilty party is Chandler Parsons, a player whose great overall skillset is often overlooked thanks to an uber-team friendly contract. In his rookie season Parsons began to make a name for himself as an incredible on-ball defender, and his work on Kobe Bryant and Kevin Durant drew praise from both players. 下一個要譴責的是高富帥,一個非常全面的球員卻因為佛心來的合約而常常被忽略。在 他的新人球季,他已經為他自己打出名聲,一個防守持球者防的非常出色的球員。他在 防守Kobe或是Durant上都得到來自這兩人的贊許。 This season Parsons has taken a minor step back on the defensive end; most of it is due to his random action away from the ball. 本季他的防守有些退步,這是由於他在離球的遠端時有些不知所謂的動作。 (圖片連結) http://www.red94.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Parsons-drops-down-.png
Rubio has barely penetrated past Lin and his reward is a rushed look at a snarling Asik. Look where Parsons is standing. Why did he drop so low, leaving Mickael Gelabale beyond wide open on the perimeter? (Gelabale is shooting 52.5% on the season.) Rubio僅僅只是切過林,而他要面對是虎視眈眈的阿西。看看Parsons站在哪,他為什麼 要沉到那麼低的位置而讓Gelabale在有外圍有一個大空檔呢?(Gelabale本季命中率是5 成25) The play ends with Minnesota taking full advantage of Parsons’ mistake. Rubio swings the ball to Gelabale, who passes it to a wide open Stiemsma on the baseline after Parsons retreats for a late close out. Stiemsma sinks the shot. 灰狼充分利用了帥哥這個防守上的失誤。Rubio傳給Gelabale,等到Parsons撲出來時再 傳給空檔的Stiemsma投進兩分。 But Parsons’ troubles don’t just come with weakside help. Here he is later on guarding Gelabale. Rubio sets a pin down screen but instead of following his man above it, Parsons cuts beneath, then unnecessarily runs into a second screen set by Stiemsma. Here’s the play: 帥哥的問題不只是弱邊協防,以下是他稍後防守Gelable的情況。 Rubio在底線作了一個 掩護,帥哥選擇從Rubio下方(左邊)穿過,而不是上方(右邊),然後又往一個根本不需要 去的掩護衝去。 (Chandler Parsons screen trouble) http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=MSx_h-PwvqY
(Before we finish up with one more play from Harden, I’d like to point out that the Rockets would be in the lottery if not for his work on the offensive end. Harden’s defense needs work, sure, but his effort with the ball is an irreplaceable commodity, and it’d be an honest shame if he didn’t end up in fourth or fifth place in the final MVP ballot. For all the gushing praise Dwyane Wade and Kobe Bryant receive for their play this season, Harden undoubtedly belongs in their class at the shooting guard position. Okay, now back to jumping on his defense.) (在我們以另一個哈登的防守情況作為結束前,我想要說明一下,如果沒有哈登在進攻端 的作用,火箭有可能只能在樂透區裡面。哈登的防守的確需要努力, 但他在持球進攻上 有無可取代的價值,而最後的MVP票選上如果他沒能排在第四或第五將會是一件很遺憾的 事。對比本季人們對Kobe跟Wade源源不絕的贊美, 哈登毫無疑問在SG這個位置上是跟他 們同一等級的。) (圖片連結) http://www.red94.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Wandering-Harden.png
If I hadn’t already pointed out the play where Harden leaks out instead of staying with his man, could you even guess who he’s supposed to be guarding right now? Look at it in real time: (Harden Wanders) http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rGQ0YvWcPqU1
如果我先前沒有提到誰是哈登漏掉的人,你可以猜到那一個是他該防守的人嗎? Harden is helping on a Stiemsma roll to the basket, but similar to the Jeremy Lin play from before, is his positioning a bit dramatic? As Rubio takes a dribble to the left, Harden hades more towards the middle of the court even though Motiejunas is already in the paint. Meanwhile, Harden’s man, once again Ridnour, drifts to the corner. Completely ignored. The ball is eventually swung to him and he hits the shot. 哈登幫忙防守Stiemsma以防他衝向籃框,但就像之前林那個情況一樣,他所站的位置會 不會有點尷尬?當Rubio往左邊運球時,哈登卻越來越往禁區中間靠過去,即使 D-MO已 經站在禁區也是一樣。同時,哈登要盯的人,同樣又是Ridnour,往底角移動。 他完全 被忽視,球傳過來然後他投進一個三分。 All these decisions by Houston’s defenders come with the strategy of packing the paint, disallowing penetration or anything easy near the rim. But they also all come with Omer Asik on the court, and what’s the use in over helping when you have a guy like that protecting the rim? (Asik is out on the perimeter guarding pick-and-rolls in a couple of these examples, but if the Rockets are so concerned with their interior defense in these situations maybe they should have Asik sag below the free-throw line to help contain the ball-handler whenever the opposing center isn’t all that great a risk of popping out for a jumper.) 火箭這些防守球員所作的這些決定都是基於把禁區堵住這個策略,不容許任何球員切入 或是靠近籃框簡單得分。但在他們作這些決定的同時,阿西也在場上;當你有一個像阿 西這樣可以保護籃框的球員時,這些過度協防有何用處? (某些情況,阿西會出來幫忙 防守擋拆,但如果火箭真的這麼在意在那種情況下他們內線的防守,在對方中鋒跳投能 力不是很好的情形下,他們可以讓阿西在罰球線以下游離去幫忙防守持球者。) Some of these open shots might be the result of scheme, but others simply aren ’t smart basketball. Even after the Rockets make their run at a secondary All-Star caliber player, if they don’t clean up their defensive miscues a championship won’t be in the cards. 有一些空檔是對方設計戰術所跑出來的,但有一些空檔卻是不聰明的打法所致。即使火 箭已經有了第二個有明星水準的球員,但如果他們不解決他們防守上的失策,他們將永 遠無法獲得冠軍。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ※ 編輯: iswearxxx 來自: 118.168.76.138 (03/19 23:38)

03/19 23:43, , 1F
鬍子的防守有時候真的讓人吐血
03/19 23:43, 1F

03/19 23:51, , 2F
終於有中肯的文章了 火箭的愛協防程度真的讓人ㄎㄎ
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03/19 23:53, , 3F
Lin的協防太深 真的沒什麼必要
03/19 23:53, 3F

03/19 23:58, , 4F
這篇真的不錯 講出火箭這三個人防守上的問題:)
03/19 23:58, 4F

03/20 00:00, , 5F
所以這也點出來冰箱把林按在板凳上 說他防守讓人不夠信服
03/20 00:00, 5F

03/20 00:01, , 6F
制服組似乎完全沒有想要補強防守這塊的洞....
03/20 00:01, 6F

03/20 00:07, , 7F
冰箱的話還有人信?!29分9失誤bj4
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03/20 00:29, , 8F
這個老實講有點事後分析 不過算是認真文
03/20 00:29, 8F

03/20 00:54, , 9F
對勇士的時候 鬍子連續漏掉他該守的人 讓對方連進三顆三分....
03/20 00:54, 9F

03/20 01:28, , 10F
這篇是標準的用鍵盤打球 (  ̄ c ̄)y▂ξ
03/20 01:28, 10F

03/20 07:21, , 11F
林協防過深到是真的~
03/20 07:21, 11F

03/20 07:34, , 12F
火箭的防守需要的是教練組的調教吧,而不是交易補強
03/20 07:34, 12F

03/20 08:26, , 13F
制服組可能只想打造極緻跑轟而已
03/20 08:26, 13F

03/20 08:58, , 14F
推w大說的! 希望有關防守建言的文章 防守教練可以看到!
03/20 08:58, 14F

03/20 10:03, , 15F
火箭似乎會收縮防守防止對方切入,但是常漏掉外線
03/20 10:03, 15F

03/20 10:04, , 16F
鬍子不是協防的問題了,他對防守根本沒放在心上
03/20 10:04, 16F

03/20 10:48, , 17F
謝翻譯, 好中肯的文章
03/20 10:48, 17F

03/20 11:23, , 18F
鬍子的問題是只看球不看人 只跟著球跑 不管人
03/20 11:23, 18F

03/20 13:53, , 19F
我其實很好奇 如果鬍子全面進攻 林只防守不進攻會有什麼
03/20 13:53, 19F

03/20 13:54, , 20F
效果耶~ 還是說要反過來XD?
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03/20 14:00, , 21F
J大 那你就會看到被夾死死的鬍子 跟被切爽的後防
03/20 14:00, 21F

03/20 14:07, , 22F
哦...所以哈林兩人都還是要攻守並重囉? 如果只單一負責
03/20 14:07, 22F

03/20 14:07, , 23F
一件事情的話都會很慘嗎? 這樣他們體力流失很快阿..
03/20 14:07, 23F

03/20 14:08, , 24F
他們防守真的是大問題 要是有大鎖 哈林就可能可以全力進
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03/20 14:08, , 25F
攻了
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03/20 14:09, , 26F
不管有沒有大鎖 後防都還是要有基本的對位能力
03/20 14:09, 26F

03/20 14:09, , 27F
不能只靠一或兩個球員幫忙協防....
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03/20 14:09, , 28F
與其說是攻守並重 不如說他們兩個都要用心在攻防兩端
03/20 14:09, 28F

03/20 14:10, , 29F
有時鬍子常常會偷懶....
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03/20 14:10, , 30F
但如果補了大鎖 多少會減輕防守對方主力攻擊手的壓力
03/20 14:10, 30F

03/20 14:10, , 31F
但目前火箭的陣型 補專職大鎖不是當務之急 是補好用內線
03/20 14:10, 31F

03/20 14:12, , 32F
Lin的罰球變差 我覺得是因為在防守上耗太多體力
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03/20 14:16, , 33F
回樓上 林的體力真的是很大的問題~
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03/20 14:17, , 34F
b2b林打不好有時候是因為體力嗎?
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03/20 14:20, , 35F
我覺得跟體力有正相關 不一定是絕對 但林若要跟鬍走的長久
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03/20 14:21, , 36F
林的體力還是要跟鬍看齊 鬍打b2b2b2b2b2b好像都沒事一樣@@
03/20 14:21, 36F

03/20 14:24, , 37F
中間的7的B是深夜作戰?
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03/20 14:26, , 38F
休士頓深夜好像比較沒得玩 若在邁阿密就慘了 鬍適應良好
03/20 14:26, 38F

03/20 14:30, , 39F
嗯,隊友再怎麼幫忙協防,你自己不盯好自己的人,就是會
03/20 14:30, 39F

03/20 14:31, , 40F
造成防守線崩潰,這幾場已經有針對哈登這點在打的球隊了
03/20 14:31, 40F

03/20 14:31, , 41F
所以既然哈登覺得進攻方面耗太多精力沒辦法防守,那為何
03/20 14:31, 41F

03/20 14:32, , 42F
不適當分配一下?他真的不需要進攻組織一手抓,球權放給
03/20 14:32, 42F

03/20 14:32, , 43F
Lin來組織,他就可以多一點精力放在防守上了
03/20 14:32, 43F

03/20 14:33, , 44F
再說Lin的體力我想應該沒有許多人想像中差吧!仔細觀察一
03/20 14:33, 44F

03/20 14:33, , 45F
場比賽,Lin往往是跑動最多的那個,以火箭現在可悲的防守
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03/20 14:33, , 46F
兩個後衛等於是防守的前線 若有一個比較不專注
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03/20 14:34, , 47F
體系,他每次被打P&R,就只能一直追著對位球員跑
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03/20 14:34, , 48F
整體的防守不管怎麼補都會出現漏洞 更別提火箭還很菜
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03/20 14:34, , 49F
原本的漏洞就常有 所以哈登的防守也得給力
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03/20 14:34, , 50F
看他繞過來繞過去,不時被大個子擋一下拐一下,當然很耗
03/20 14:34, 50F

03/20 14:34, , 51F
體力
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03/20 14:35, , 52F
不然不是累死林就是高富帥 然後看內線犯滿
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03/20 14:38, , 53F
我很不想這麼說...等哈登好好防守還能維持一樣的體力的
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03/20 14:39, , 54F
時候 你再來稱讚哈登的體力好
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03/20 14:43, , 55F
也是 鬍子的體力的確用在進攻上比較多 林是兩頭燒
03/20 14:43, 55F

03/20 15:31, , 56F
鬍子進攻加上防守都不會累那真的可以算是生化人了
03/20 15:31, 56F

03/20 15:31, , 57F
之前在別的地方 有人說鬍子是生化人 我是認為還不到~
03/20 15:31, 57F

03/20 15:36, , 58F
我只是認為說林的體力比鬍子差並不公平
03/20 15:36, 58F

03/20 15:36, , 59F
林就是被要求又要進攻又要防守
03/20 15:36, 59F

03/20 15:41, , 60F
對阿~ 所以鬍子體力到底好不好也還是不清楚呢
03/20 15:41, 60F
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