Re: [問卦]被織田信長擊敗/滅掉的勢力,不見得是廢材?消失
本來最有機會滅掉信長的武田信玄太早掛
三方原把織田聯軍打到脫褲不要不要的
沒想到回家信玄就葛屁了
繼承者勝賴雖然武勇不下老爸
但是長篠失策 設樂原又死一堆大將
之後又介入選出上杉家繼承者事情太多
本來盟友北條森77
當初想好上杉 武田 北條 包圍織田家的構想破滅
武田反而被織田 德川 北條包圍
沒多久就GG了
可惜勝賴一開始滿手好牌的說...
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