Re: [問卦] 川普當選對似乎比希拉蕊好很多?消失
看到去年11月時有這則新聞,不過版上沒有人PO
Taiwan Passport Sticker Movement
希拉蕊在電子郵件中表示「放任中國併吞台灣以換取美國對中國債務減免」很「Clever」
http://tps-taiwanpassportsticker.com/index.php/ditch-taiwan/
在 Wikileaks維基解密所公布的希拉蕊私人郵件中,
有著這麼一封對於台灣人來說讀起來特別殘酷的信件。
再五年前的今天(2011年11月11日),
希拉蕊克林頓的顧問Jake Sullivan分享了一篇Paul V. Kane所撰寫的
名為《拯救我們的經濟,拋棄台灣吧!To Save Our Economy, Ditch Taiwan》文章,
文章中建議歐巴馬政府讓任中國併吞台灣,藉此換取中國政府註銷對美國的1.14兆
美元債權,讓美國政府在不增稅的情況下減緩可能到來的國債危機。
然後當時為美國國務卿的希拉蕊克林頓簡短地回覆
「I saw it and thought it was so clever. Let’s discuss.
(我看到了這篇文章,我覺得這想法很聰明,讓我們來討論吧)」。
希拉蕊克林頓即使在檯面上說著要重返亞太,
但私底下卻也對於「拋棄台灣以拯救美國國債問題」表示「so clever」,
讀到這裡,您應該可以感受到,美國對於台灣問題的態度有多麼現實吧!
※維基解密公布的希拉蕊的信件原文
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/23730
From: H <hrod17@clintonemail.com>
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 6:46 PM
To: 'sullivanjj@state.gov'
Subject: Re: Interesting article
I saw it and thought it was so clever. Let's discuss.
Original Message----------
There are dozens of initiatives President Obama could undertake to strengthen
our economic security. Here is one: He should enter into closed-door
negotiations with Chinese leaders to write off the $1.14 trillion of
American debut currently held by China in exchange for a deal to end
American military assistance to and arms sales to Taiwan and terminate
the current United State-Taiwan defense arrangement by 2015.
(大意是:應以終止對台灣的軍事協助與軍售來換取將中國手上美國國債一筆勾銷。)
...
Today, America has little strategic interest in Taiwan, which is gradually
integrating with China economically by investing in and forming joint
ventures with mainland Chinese firms. The island's absorption into
mainland China is inevitable.
...
(反正這座島嶼(台灣)被中國被吞噬無可避免的。)
同樣的來源,自由時報就寫的相當委婉:
希拉蕊曾支持放任中國併吞台?
http://news.ltn.com.tw/news/world/breakingnews/1885139
(媒體的第四權,ㄏㄏ;自由派政治家,ㄏㄏ)
不知道力挺希拉蕊的台灣覺青們如雪花苗苗與芷若,對此有甚麼看法。
我覺得他們真的是 超 CLEVER 的
※ 引述《DarkHolbach (宇智boyo)》之銘言:
: 基本上,我個人不太喜歡川普,但最近看民主黨那群政客噁心的舔中樣,突然可以理解
: 為啥八卦版會有這麼多川粉了,雖然我不期待美國的政治會變的多偏台灣,但川普比
: 民主黨那些政客有種多了,至少不會讓中國予取予求。
: 反觀民主黨,第一個跳出來罵川普,搞不好還收了中國不少錢,希拉蕊看起來當選後也
: 是個舔中走狗。
: 所以我突然覺得當初臉書一堆台灣潮潮在川普當選時,不知道在崩潰甚麼?你們是笨蛋
: 嗎?又不住美國,跟人家拿甚麼政治正確喊燒?又不關你的事。就算美國是右派茶黨當
: 選,只要能對台灣比較好一點,又有甚麼關係?反正那些共和黨的同志、女權議題也不
: 會影響你。
: 川普當選,似乎比希拉蕊好太多了,有沒有這方面的八卦?
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