[問卦] 有否228時,台灣人曾向聯合國求援的八卦?消失

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下面的報導提到: 福爾摩沙人正要求聯合國採取行動,有些人聯繫外國大使,要求將台灣交由聯軍最高統帥 治理,或是成為美國的保護地。 這些求援紀錄找得到嗎?當時的外國大使是否有留下任何的官方紀錄?這些求援的聲音不 知道是否有確實傳達到聯合國,為什麼沒有第三方勢力來救台灣人呢? ------------------------------------------------------------ 1947年 紐約時報 對二二八大屠殺的報導 原文連結(已失效) Formosa Killings Are Put at 10,000; Foreigners Say the Chinese Slaughtered Dem onstrators Without Provocation 福爾摩沙人死亡人數上達一萬;外籍人士說 中國人屠殺未挑釁的示威者 March 29, 1947, Saturday By TILLMAN DURDIN Special to THE NEW YORK TIMES. Page 6, 554 words Foreigners say the Chinese slaughtered demonstrators without provocation Nanki ng, March 28, Foreigners who have just returned to China from Formosa corrobor ate reports of wholesale slaughter by Chinese troops and police during anti-Go vernment demonstrations a month ago. 3月28日南京電,外國人士表示,中國屠殺沒有挑釁行為的示威者。剛剛由福爾摩沙返回 中國的外國人士證實中國軍隊與警察一個月前在反政府示威活動中展開大屠殺。 These witnesses estimate that 10,000 Formosans were killed by the Chinese arme d forces. The killings were described as “completely unjustified” in view of the nature of the demonstrations. 這些見證人估計大約有一萬名福爾摩沙人遭到中國軍隊屠殺。以示威活動的態勢看來,屠 殺被形容為「毫無必要的」。 The anti-Government demonstrations were said to have been by unarmed persons w hose intentions were peaceful. Every foreign report to Nanking denies charges that Communists or Japanese inspired or organized the parades. 參與反政府示威的是一群手無寸鐵,以和平為意念的百姓,所有外電報導都否認有共產黨 或日本人鼓動或組織示威遊行。 Foreigners who left Formosa a few days ago say that an uneasy peace had been e stablished almost everywhere, but executions and arrests continued. Many Formo sans were said to have fled to the hills fearing they would be killed if they returned to their homes. 幾天前剛離開福爾摩沙的外國人士表示,各地已經確立緊張的表面平靜,但是槍決與逮捕 仍然持續進行。許多福爾摩沙人已經逃到山中,他們擔心一旦回到家中就會遭到殺害。 Three Days of Slaughter: 三日屠殺 An American who had just arrived in China from Taihoku said that troops from t he mainland arrived there March 7 and indulged in three days of indiscriminate killing and looting. For a time everyone seen on the streets was shot at, hom es were broken into and occupants killed. In the poorer sections the streets w ere said to have been littered with dead. There were instances of beheadings a nd mutilation of bodies, and women were raped, the American said. 一位剛由台北回到中國的美國人表示,中國軍隊三月七日抵達台灣後,展開三天的無差別 屠殺與搶劫,任何人只要在街上被看到就被槍殺,房屋被闖入,所有的居民都被殺害,最 嚴重的地方,街頭屍橫遍野,有些人的頭被砍斷,有些被分屍,婦女遭到強暴。 Two foreign women, who were near at Pingtung near Takao, called the actions of the Chinese soldiers there a “massacre.” They said unarmed Formosans took o ver the administration of the town peacefully on March 4 and used the local ra dio station to caution against violence. 兩位接近屏東地區的外籍女士稱中國軍人的行為「大屠殺」,他們說,沒有武裝的福爾摩 沙人在三月四號和平的佔領市政府,並用廣播要求大家不要使用暴力。 Chinese were well received and invited to lunch with the Formosan leaders. Lat er a bigger group of soldiers came and launched a sweep through the streets. T he people were machine gunned. Groups were rounded up and executed. The man wh o had served as the town’s spokesman was killed. His body was left for a day in a park and no one was permitted to remove it. 中國人被善待還被邀請到福爾摩沙人領袖的家中共進午餐,但是稍後,更大群的軍人到達 ,用機關槍對街上人民掃射,許多人被集合起來集體槍決,鎮上的發言人被殺害,他的屍 體被丟棄在公園中一整天不准收屍。 A Briton described similar events at Takao, where unarmed Formosans had taken over the running of the city. He said that after several days Chinese soldiers from an outlying fort deployed through the streets killing hundreds with mach ine-guns and rifles and raping and looting. Formosan leaders were thrown into prison, many bound with thin wire that cut deep into the flesh. 一位英國人也描述發生在高雄類似的事件,福爾摩沙人佔領市政府,幾天後中國軍人由外 港登陸,用機關槍、步槍搶劫與強姦婦女,共有數百人遭殺害。福爾摩沙人的領袖被逮捕 入獄,許多人被鐵絲穿過身體串成一串。 Leaflets Trapped Many 許多人被傳單所騙 The foreign witnesses reported that leaflets signed with the name of Generalis simo Chiang Kai-shek promising leniency, and urging all who had fled to return , were dropped from airplanes. As a result many came back to be imprisoned or executed. “There seemed to be a policy of killing off all the best people,” one foreigner asserted. The foreigners’ stories are fully supported by report s of every important foreign embassy or legation in Nanking. 外國見證人表示,飛機灑下一張由蔣介石簽名,保證寬大,力勸所有在逃難的人返回家園 的傳單,結果許多人回家後遭到逮捕與槍決。一位外籍人士補充,看來有個政策打算殺害 所有的菁英,這些外籍人士的故事得到所有重要外國使館與南京官方的證實。 Formosans are reported to be seeking United Nations’ action on their case. So me have approached foreign consuls to ask that Formosa be put under the jurisd iction of Allied Supreme Command or be made an American protectorate. Formosan hostility to the mainland Chinese has deepened. Two women who described event s at Pingtung said that when Formosans assembled to take over the administrati on of the town they sang “The Star Spangled Banner.” 據報導,福爾摩沙人正要求聯合國採取行動,有些人聯繫外國大使,要求將台灣交由聯軍 最高統帥治理,或是成為美國的保護地。福爾摩沙人對中國人的敵意已經加深,兩位描述 發生在屏東事件的女士表示,當福爾摩沙人佔領市政府時唱的是美國國歌。 引自 http://goo.gl/9KulZT ----------------------------------------------------------- 版友提供的資料: harlow: Terror in Taiwan The Nation, May 24, 1947 by Peggy Durdin http://www.taiwandc.org/hst-1947.htm cttw19: 你的問題在《被出賣的台灣》書中有解答 當時美國駐台副領事寫的 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 101.183.210.108 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Gossiping/M.1456710566.A.899.html

02/29 09:51, , 1F
找聯合國沒用阿 因為派來的也是國民黨軍
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被KMT鎖國
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※ 編輯: ARUSHI (101.183.210.108), 02/29/2016 09:51:57

02/29 09:53, , 3F
美國一定有司法監聽資料
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但是不可能給我們
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屏東 Home of the brave Land for the free
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國民黨跟共產黨一樣噁心,到現在還在粉飾太平
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Formosan, 這名字不錯耶
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國境之南 自由勇敢 殺人無罪 高屏溪南
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02/29 09:55, , 9F
根據這篇報導,以前外國稱台灣為福爾摩沙人,後來
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02/29 09:55, , 10F
聯合國:誰理你們 早就給拒絕了
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02/29 09:56, , 11F
台灣正名福爾磨砂
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附帶一題 中國人也會叫我們福爾摩沙人
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02/29 09:57, , 13F
KMT進來把福爾摩莎改為ROC
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QQ
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02/29 09:57, , 15F
這不民主阿。來個投票看看要不要改為原本的或者台灣
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02/29 09:58, , 16F
希望228正名成三月屠殺
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拜託 美國那時候都還有排華法案 真以為他們會理黃皮
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02/29 09:59, , 18F
猴子??? 等下輩子投胎白人可能還有一點機會
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謝啟大會說228只有死40幾個唷
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02/29 10:00, , 20F
聯合國當時忙的很 怎麼有空理一個小島
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還有 28 則推文
還有 27 段內文
※ 編輯: ARUSHI (101.183.210.108), 02/29/2016 11:51:51

02/29 12:36, , 49F
國民黨真的很可惡,這輩子一定要拔掉他
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推報導
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台灣民政府表示該回歸了
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幹我從來不知道
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02/29 15:33, , 55F
推 這報導應該要廣傳
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02/29 16:10, , 56F
排華是排中國人 關福爾摩沙人屁事 真的有人被中(華民)國政
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02/29 16:10, , 57F
府洗腦洗到以為台灣人是中國人啊
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※ 編輯: ARUSHI (101.183.210.108), 02/29/2016 16:56:55

02/29 16:51, , 58F
俺是在想說,這件事打國際官司的可能性如何?畢竟這是 war
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crime
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黨國不趕出台灣 無法被原諒
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02/29 18:34, , 61F
1947年紐約時報的報導超中肯的!
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02/29 19:41, , 62F
另一個亮點 台北在報導中的拼法是"Taihoku" 日語發音
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02/29 19:51, , 63F
"由台北回到中國" 所以報導的觀點 中國不含台灣
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高調 垃圾kmt
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02/29 20:22, , 65F
當時國際的認知 台灣真的是中國代管地
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02/29 21:59, , 66F
Taiwan在滿清和日本時期就有的拼音,但推廣在國際是國民
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黨政府來台後。那之前都是Formosa為主。
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