Re: [問題] 閱讀一題問題 關於"negative finding"
※ 引述《SuperMaster (神手)》之銘言:
: Although the hormone adrenaline is known to regulate
: memory storage, it does not pass from the blood into
: brain cells. We are faced with an apparent paradox: how
: can a hormone that does not act directly on the brain
: have such a large effect on brain function?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
這是作者的疑問
: Recently, we tested the possibility that one of the
: hormone’s actions outside the brain might be responsible.
^^^^^^^
這是作者對他的疑問的假設
: Since one consequence of adrenaline release in an animal
: is an increase in blood glucose levels, we examined the
: effects of glucose on memory in rats. We found that glucose
: injected immediately after training enhances memory tested
: the next day. Additional evidence was provided by negative
^^^^^^^^^
這一句就是他想要證實的: glucose會造成enhance memory
所以他想要反向證明: 這個enhance memory不是由adrenaline直接造成
而是由glucose
那要怎麼證明?
1.單純打glucose進去也會有類似的效果
2.就算有adrenaline,若不造成glucose上昇就沒有memory enhancement
3.所以用adrenergic blocker --> glucose 不會上昇 --> memory不會enhance
4.用adrenergic blocker --> glucose不上昇 -->memory不會enhance
-->強制注射glucose --> memory enhance
: findings: drugs called adrenergic antagonists, which block
: peripheral adrenaline receptors, disrupted adrenaline’s
: ability to regulate memory but did not affect memory
: enhancements produced by glucose that was not stimulated
: by adrenaline. These results are as they should be if
: adrenaline affects memory modulation by increasing blood
: glucose levels.
單純以解題來看
: 4. The author refers to the results of the experiment using
: adrenergic antagonists as “negative findings” (line 13)
: most likely because the adrenergic antagonists
: (A) failed to disrupt adrenaline’s effect on memory
錯 因為"drugs called adrenergic antagonists, ......disrupted adrenaline's
ability to regulate memory.."
: (B) did not affect glucose’s ability to enhance memory
對 "but did not affect memory enhancements produced by glucose.."
: (C) did not block adrenaline’s ability to increase blood glucose levels
錯 都說了是 adrenergic "blocker"
但也可以說這選項是 out of scope (超出內容範圍)
: (D) only partially affected adrenaline’s ability to enhance memory
錯 他沒有說partial
: (E) disrupted both adrenaline’s and glucose’s effect on memory
錯 就說沒有影響非adrenaline-induced glucose 的memory effect
: 答案是:B
: 首先,我對文章的理解是這樣的
: 待解釋的現象:hormone adrenaline是怎麼不和大腦直接作用而影響記憶?
: 讀到這,我就知道文章接下來要說明問號的內容 : hormone adrenaline -> ? -> 記憶
: 果然,是因為adrenaline產生葡萄糖 而葡萄糖影響記憶
: 證據1: 把葡萄糖注入老鼠 記憶up
: 反向證據2 : 某drug會block adrenaline的接收器 所以無法影響記憶
這裡說的不對 他只說不會影響 adrenaline-induced的glucose對記憶的影響
再者 內文說 "disrupted adrenaline's ability to regulate memory"
: 而且不影響不是由adrenaline產生的葡萄糖
同上,adrenaline還是影響記憶啊
: 我的問題是 我看不懂證據2的意義在哪?為何他是反向證據
你2的解讀有點小不正確
: 而且證據1已經說明葡萄糖響記憶
: 那麼證據2的"不是由adrenaline產生的葡萄糖”本來就不會被影響阿
: 為什麼”不是由adrenaline產生的葡萄糖不被影響” 這句話卻成為反向證據的關鍵
: 我不知道我是不理解文章意思還是沒有搞懂反向證據的意思
: 麻煩高手解答
: 謝謝
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01/28 22:06, , 1F
01/28 22:06, 1F
no problem
我再解釋清楚一點
positive finding指的是 glucose造成memory enhancement (無論是adrenaline造成與否)
negative finding指的是能夠反向證明
也就是說用adr blocker-->會造成glucose沒有上升 -->所以沒有memory enhancement
為了證明記憶是glucose造成的 所以更確實地去證實
就算在有adrenaline的情況下 去注射glucose --> memory enhance
+ 是指 = 直接給glucose --> memory enhance
- 是指 = 阻斷glucose上升的原因 (意思就是給adr blocker) --> no memory enhance
然後為了再更科學的證明犯人就是glucose
就在有adr blocker的強況下 再把glucose注射進去 --> memory enhance
所以若你真的要去細分哪個是"negative finding"
那我會說應該就是指給adrenaline blocker這件事 --> no memory enhancement
※ 編輯: yujungc (223.139.72.17), 01/28/2016 23:27:24
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