[轉錄]Nishioka breaks leg on Swisher's hard slide

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※ [本文轉錄自 MLB 看板 #1DdbIs-6 ] 作者: tunababy (相信妳自己,真的....) 站內: MLB 標題: Nishioka breaks leg on Swisher's hard slide 時間: Fri Apr 8 08:20:04 2011 Swisher為了破壞double play硬往Nishioka的腳滑然後就把人家的腿撞斷了... Nishioka:感謝他call我,他不必這麼做的.. 有沒有八卦洋基球員常把別人撞進DL? NEW YORK -- The differences between the big league baseball played in this country and the professional ball in Japan are not always subtle. Some are merely pleasant nuances that barely distinguish one game from the other. Others, though, are sharp contrasts that do set one apart from the other and sometimes make for danger. So it was Thursday afternoon, when the Twins lost a game and their Japanese second baseman, Tsuyoshi Nishioka. Playing his sixth game in the big leagues after seven-plus seasons in Japan, Nishioka suffered a fractured bone in his lower left leg when he was knocked to the turf of Yankee Stadium near second base by an uncommonly hard, but clean slide by Yankees right fielder Nick Swisher. The victim, the alleged perpetrator and almost everyone else who witnessed the play in the seventh inning of the Twins' 4-3 loss said Swisher was innocent of wrong doing. Indeed, Nishioka characterized Swisher's slide as "a "professional play" as he sat in the visiting clubhouse adjacent to a pair of crutches. And Twins manager Ron Gardenhire dismissed speculation that intent was an element in the slide. "Swisher's a clean player. It was a good slide," the manager said. "That's not an issue at all." At the same time, though, Twins coach Jerry White, who played two seasons in Japan, said the impact of the play made it quite different from what he recalled from his experiences in the Far East. "There," White said, "if you get hit by a pitch, the pitcher says, 'Sorry, sorry, sorry. ...' They don't play the same way. You probably wouldn't see a slide like that. And you can get used to that." White said he didn't recall Nishioka experiencing problems at second base during Spring Training or in the first games of the regular season. But he did say Nishioka "seemed to straddle the base longer than usual." Moreover, Nishioka played mostly shortstop in Japan last year. Previously he had won Gold Gloves at shortstop and second base playing for the Chiba Lotte Marines, the team managed by Bobby Valentine. Straddling was not an element in the play Thursday, but a lack of urgency in avoiding contact may have been. Nishioka indicated through his interpreter that the type of slide wasn't uncommon in Japan. But baseball people familiar with the game in both countries often have noted that so-called takeout slides are not routine in Japan. And for that matter, the kind of hard slide Swisher executed is increasingly uncommon in the big leagues. His slide was out of the Don Baylor-Frank Robinson-Hal McRae playbook. "I wasn't trying to hurt him. I was trying to break up the double play," Swisher said. "I didn't mean to do it." He contacted Nishioka in the visiting clubhouse and expressed that. The 26-year-old rookie said "He didn't need [to call]. I appreciate the call." Swisher was the baserunner at first base when Mark Teixeira hit a ground ball to third baseman Danny Valencia. "The throw [to second] caught him a little flat-footed," Gardenhire said. Nishioka moved to the infield side of the base after making his unsuccessful relay to first. Swisher had slid on his right hip, his left leg well off the ground. His leg made contact with Nishioka's lower left leg. The impact was obvious and, in retrospect after Nishioka remained on the ground, a tad gruesome. The club said his left fibula had been cracked about eight inches below the knee and to the outside of the leg. It provided no prognosis or a sense of how severe the break is, and the Twins had made no immediate decisions about how they would replace Nishioka. Later, there were indications that Triple-A second baseman Luke Hughes would be recalled. Matt Tolbert had replaced Nishioka on Thursday. Swisher appeared upset when Nishioka was helped off the field by the trainer and his interpreter. He said the brief conversation eased his mind. "He told me it wasn't my fault," Swisher said. "That made me feel better. ... He said, 'I didn't get out of the way.'" So the Twins left New York for their opening home game uncertain who will bat and play second. Nishioka said he never had suffered a break previously and vowed to return as quickly as possible. "It's pretty sad," Gardenhire said. "We have to look at it as a minor setback. We'll get him better, we'll be OK. He likes to play. He must've told me a thousand times that he plays hurt." -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 149.142.103.104

04/08 08:21,
心得有點危險XD
04/08 08:21

04/08 08:22,
囧 斷腿
04/08 08:22

04/08 08:22,
Cervelli表示...
04/08 08:22

04/08 08:23,
恭喜 可以桶了 掰掰
04/08 08:23

04/08 08:24,
這心得有戰的潛力...
04/08 08:24

04/08 08:25,
常常也不是沒根據的吧..4樓再爽啥?
04/08 08:25

04/08 08:25,
其實洋基球員的祖先是韓國人,所以才專門撞日本球員
04/08 08:25

04/08 08:27,
斷腿...
04/08 08:27

04/08 08:29,
Duncan撞岩村 腿弟撞Guillen Swisher撞西岡 記得的有這三次
04/08 08:29

04/08 08:30,
不過除了Duncan有明顯報復嫌疑外看不出有哪位是故意的
04/08 08:30

04/08 08:30,
我不是洋基迷,但是Swisher很明顯是clean slide..
04/08 08:30

04/08 08:36,
Swisher他那是合法衝撞吧...只是沒想到會撞成這樣子...
04/08 08:36

04/08 08:45,
Swisher滑得很合理沒錯
04/08 08:45

04/08 08:46,
只能說是真他媽的倒楣了!才剛開始踏入這大江湖就要DL了~衰
04/08 08:46

04/08 08:46,
好像曾公有提到西岡閃人時會跳固定方向,結果就..= =
04/08 08:46

04/08 08:47,
我看球不久..可以請問一下要如何分辨clean或是dirty slide
04/08 08:47

04/08 08:48,
嗎@@?
04/08 08:48

04/08 08:48,
最起碼要可以碰到壘包吧 完全碰不到壘包硬要鏟人就超過了
04/08 08:48

04/08 08:50,
碰得到壘包的情況下其實應該都算合理範圍.
04/08 08:50

04/08 08:51,
應該是會被報復
04/08 08:51

04/08 08:52,
另外西岡不知道為什麼有點卡住
04/08 08:52

04/08 08:52,
有的人會去用手去拉也不行 其他情況摸的到壘包應該都可以
04/08 08:52

04/08 08:52,
官網影片已經出來了
04/08 08:52

04/08 08:53,
原則上這部分是由裁判主觀判定,不過大致的方向就是判斷跑者
04/08 08:53

04/08 08:54,
是否"朝壘包滑壘並順勢阻擋"或"明顯針對野手"這樣去拚
04/08 08:54

04/08 08:54,
Swisher都致歉了還報復不太好吧...
04/08 08:54

04/08 08:55,
前者通常合法且看起來的確比較不容易亂到野手
04/08 08:55

04/08 08:56,
後者就十分明顯...通常是最後才意思一下去碰個壘包
04/08 08:56

04/08 08:57,
這種就多半當場直接判妨害守備了
04/08 08:57

04/08 08:59,
有沒有天使球員不用別人撞自己就會摔斷腳的八卦
04/08 08:59

04/08 09:01,
嗯嗯 了解~
04/08 09:01

04/08 09:01,
提供消息ok倒不必這麼說吧 但樓上也不用提Morales吧
04/08 09:01

04/08 09:02,
針對樓主天使迷吧 想引戰就不能怕人戰XD
04/08 09:02

04/08 09:02,
要可以碰到壘包,手腳不能舉過高(Duncan那次腳故意抬高)
04/08 09:02

04/08 09:04,
Swisher是合法衝撞,但事後有致歉算是很有風度了
04/08 09:04

04/08 09:05,
Duncan那次好像就直接判妨礙吧? 時間有點久...忘了
04/08 09:05

04/08 09:05,
看起來是合法衝撞 但這樣的跑壘還是會有一些爭議
04/08 09:05

04/08 09:06,
我還記得他腿高到簡直像用咖撐在摩擦滑行lol
04/08 09:06

04/08 09:07,
是哪隊硬把Wilson撞成腦震盪的啊
04/08 09:07

04/08 09:08,
Duncan那次是報復行為 但是這次是單純破壞雙殺
04/08 09:08

04/08 09:11,
slide 本來就有風險 而且通常是認為野手自己要注意
04/08 09:11

04/08 09:13,
再看一次影片後這的確算很有技巧的破壞...還算常見的= =
04/08 09:13

04/08 09:14,
好球帶大概幾天就會看到一次野手被剷飛 但受傷就少見了
04/08 09:14

04/08 09:15,
詳細一點的話就是西岡沒有選擇直接先跳 而是先跨左腳出去
04/08 09:15

04/08 09:16,
Ty Cobb表示:.....
04/08 09:16

04/08 09:16,
結果就是這一步讓他要側身傳球沒辦法顧及到Swisher的破壞
04/08 09:16

04/08 09:19,
他跳的話就算同樣被撞應該也不至於骨折,因為腳會順勢往後帶
04/08 09:19

04/08 09:21,
推文沒人戰原po失望了嗎
04/08 09:21

04/08 09:28,
我比較想知道把人弄到受傷後還要對方注意的八卦
04/08 09:28

04/08 09:42,
西岡傳一壘都會習慣往前跳...
04/08 09:42
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04/08 09:47, , 1F
只能說衰了~避免雙殺的鏟壘~
04/08 09:47, 1F

04/08 09:50, , 2F
上半季可能都泡湯了= =
04/08 09:50, 2F

04/08 10:08, , 3F
好險一隻都沒
04/08 10:08, 3F

04/08 10:10, , 4F
我才剛丟Venters用waiver撿他而已 第一天上班就掰 囧
04/08 10:10, 4F

04/08 10:12, , 5F
還好唯一有他的盟居然淺到可以拿Drew小弟換他( ′-`)y-~
04/08 10:12, 5F

04/08 11:07, , 6F
一隻都沒搶到
04/08 11:07, 6F

04/08 11:14, , 7F
賽前剛丟換Callaspo
04/08 11:14, 7F

04/08 11:15, , 8F
這隻很早選的選完還有很多在FA 後來選的就很搶手了
04/08 11:15, 8F

04/08 11:17, , 9F
我只能說 選秀那天被攔胡攔的好....
04/08 11:17, 9F

04/08 11:17, , 10F
雙城的打擊也夠囧了...
04/08 11:17, 10F

04/08 11:21, , 11F
我也忍痛換Callaspo了QQ
04/08 11:21, 11F

04/08 11:52, , 12F
從Utley,Longoria到他,我內野全掛 災難阿= =
04/08 11:52, 12F

04/08 11:55, , 13F
樓上一壘跟捕手是誰
04/08 11:55, 13F

04/08 11:57, , 14F
Pena,soto
04/08 11:57, 14F

04/08 11:57, , 15F
只剩一壘跟捕手還活著啦XD
04/08 11:57, 15F

04/08 12:01, , 16F
還好玩四個只選到一個 而且還用來替補的
04/08 12:01, 16F

04/08 13:06, , 17F
但是Pena跟Soto都打滿鳥的
04/08 13:06, 17F

04/08 13:41, , 18F
這隻還好啦 丟了也不心疼
04/08 13:41, 18F

04/08 15:07, , 19F
捕手不算IF
04/08 15:07, 19F

12/13 11:05, 5年前 , 20F
上半季可能都泡湯了= https://noxiv.com
12/13 11:05, 20F

04/21 04:53, 5年前 , 21F
這隻還好啦 丟了也不心 https://muxiv.com
04/21 04:53, 21F
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