[請益] Had been跟had的差別

看板Eng-Class作者 (Lanny)時間11年前 (2014/08/28 01:22), 編輯推噓8(8推 0噓 33→)
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不好意思問個問題 The house _________ planning to sell was at last sold last month. 空格填my parents had been 但為什麼不可以寫my parents had呢? 請問加been的原因是為什麼 要看哪來決定 希望知道的人能解惑 感謝~ -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 114.41.233.205 ※ 文章網址: http://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Eng-Class/M.1409160122.A.ABE.html
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08/28 01:59, , 1F
答案應該沒有my parents，怎麼會有the house my parent
08/28 01:59, 1F
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08/28 01:59, , 2F
這種奇怪句子
08/28 01:59, 2F
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08/28 02:09, , 3F
有耶@@這是國考以前的題目
08/28 02:09, 3F
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08/28 02:13, , 4F
"had been planning"是 plan(動詞)的過去完成進行式
08/28 02:13, 4F
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08/28 02:14, , 5F
關係子句: (that=the house) my parents had been
08/28 02:14, 5F
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08/28 02:14, , 6F
planning to sell
08/28 02:14, 6F
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08/28 02:16, , 7F
暫時用直述句的角度來看這關係子句: my parents had been
08/28 02:16, 7F
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08/28 02:17, , 8F
planning to sell (the house)->that(受詞，轉換成關代，
08/28 02:17, 8F
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08/28 02:17, , 9F
挪前)
08/28 02:17, 9F
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08/28 02:18, , 10F
你問的 had planning 就什麼都不是/單純的錯誤
08/28 02:18, 10F
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08/28 07:48, , 11F
回一樓 原句應該是 the house "that" my parent had been
08/28 07:48, 11F
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08/28 07:49, , 12F
planning to sell was at last sold last month.
08/28 07:49, 12F
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08/28 07:50, , 13F
除了 had planning 文法錯誤外 had been V-ing 有從以前到
08/28 07:50, 13F
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08/28 07:51, , 14F
目前仍持續做的意思 在這裡是"一直想賣掉"的意思
08/28 07:51, 14F
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08/28 09:45, , 15F
原po只要記得後面的動詞型態由前一個決定就很好解了！
08/28 09:45, 15F
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08/28 14:24, , 16F
請問要怎麼判斷had planning是文法錯誤呢?
08/28 14:24, 16F
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08/28 14:25, , 17F
dashihito 請問是甚麼意思 我還是不懂QAQ
08/28 14:25, 17F
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08/28 14:41, , 18F
就是你知道had是助動詞，只有後面加Vpp才能形成過去完
08/28 14:41, 18F
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08/28 14:42, , 19F
成式；但空格後的plan卻又是現在分詞的型態，不符，所
08/28 14:42, 19F
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08/28 14:43, , 20F
可能前面需加一個be動詞，表進行（be+Ving），所以過去
08/28 14:43, 20F
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08/28 14:44, , 21F
完成進行就這麼來了：had+been+Ving。至於要怎麼判斷
08/28 14:44, 21F
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08/28 14:45, , 22F
had planning是文法錯誤，倒不如原po問問自己had+Ving
08/28 14:45, 22F
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08/28 14:45, , 23F
是屬於哪種時態？
08/28 14:45, 23F
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08/28 15:06, , 24F
呃，過去完成進行式？
08/28 15:06, 24F
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08/28 15:42, , 25F
喔，我懂了，原來是這樣，謝謝XD
08/28 15:42, 25F
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08/28 15:44, , 26F
所以說看到後面是Ving的話前面就要加been嗎@@?
08/28 15:44, 26F
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08/28 16:06, , 27F
過去完成進行式= had+been+ving
08/28 16:06, 27F
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08/28 16:08, , 28F
另外問個問題~ 用had been是代表過去一直想賣掉？
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08/28 16:09, , 29F
最後一個月時後賣掉的意思嗎
08/28 16:09, 29F
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08/28 16:11, , 30F
the house my parents had been planning to sell
08/28 16:11, 30F
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08/28 16:12, , 31F
was sold at last month 這樣翻可以嗎
08/28 16:12, 31F
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08/28 16:30, , 32F
謝謝~~
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08/28 19:07, , 33F
不用at
08/28 19:07, 33F
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08/28 22:03, , 34F
謝謝kee32
08/28 22:03, 34F
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08/28 23:49, , 35F
:-)
08/28 23:49, 35F
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08/29 00:23, , 36F
「後面是Ving的話前面就要加been嗎？」有可能，但不是
08/29 00:23, 36F
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08/29 00:25, , 37F
一定。如果空格填"my parents had spent a year"文法上
08/29 00:25, 37F
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08/29 00:26, , 38F
也沒錯，就記住「後面的動詞型態靠前一個決定」的原則:
08/29 00:26, 38F
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08/29 00:27, , 39F
之所以planning是因為前面的spent；而要用spent，也是
08/29 00:27, 39F
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08/29 00:28, , 40F
因為前一個had後加Vpp的關係。囉嗦了一點，希望有幫助~
08/29 00:28, 40F
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08/29 23:24, , 41F
感謝dashihito
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