[文法] consider文法

看板Eng-Class作者 (kswiss)時間13年前 (2012/09/02 12:53), 編輯推噓1(1推 0噓 26→)
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1.請問以下例句是相等的嗎?? They consider modern buildings as cold and unfriendly. = They consider modern buildings to be cold and unfriendly. consider文法裡有這樣的架構 be considered + to be Adj. 2.請問以下例句的considered為啥後面都接名詞?? She said the symbolic award would be considered to be a severe provocation by all Chinese people, including Tibetans. a severe provocation是個名詞 You will find that it's easy to see why the Kiwis are considered to be among the friendliest people in the world the friendliest people也是算名詞 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 114.42.183.97
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09/02 18:23, , 1F
http://tinyurl.com/8odnsts useage note裡有相關的
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09/02 18:25, , 2F
討論內容，其中談到 "consider must be used with a
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09/02 18:26, , 3F
complement or clause" 因此不論是形容詞或是名詞作補
09/02 18:26, 3F
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09/02 18:27, , 4F
語應該都是合理的使用 參考看看
09/02 18:27, 4F
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09/02 19:44, , 5F
更正usage
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09/03 10:28, , 6F
1. 原 po 觀念要改正，你不能用你看到的文法去質疑
09/03 10:28, 6F
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09/03 10:29, , 7F
實際存在而且很多人都這樣用，並被視為正確的句子
09/03 10:29, 7F
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09/03 10:29, , 8F
語言是本體，文法是整理，你沒看過這個文法只代表沒整理到
09/03 10:29, 8F
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09/03 10:30, , 9F
2. 查字典就有 consider something/somebody (to be)
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09/03 10:31, , 10F
something 這樣的句型，你提的也只是改被動式
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09/03 10:31, , 11F
不管是文法或字典都是比較精簡的整理
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09/03 10:32, , 12F
不是說書上沒有整理到就一定不能成立
09/03 10:32, 12F
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09/03 10:32, , 13F
遇到這類問題，何不多查幾本網路字典看看
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09/03 10:35, , 14F
LDOCE 網路版沒有，但完整版中也有 is considered to be sth
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09/03 10:35, , 15F
這樣的例句出現...我相信其它的 reference 也會出現
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09/03 10:36, , 16F
所以有時候我很不喜歡台灣的文法書就是這樣
09/03 10:36, 16F
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09/03 10:37, , 17F
明明就是 consider + 受詞 + 補語 即可
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09/03 10:37, , 18F
卻硬要像原 po 舉的例子，創造出一個 to be adj 這樣的文法
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09/03 10:38, , 19F
而將這個明明使用上非常彈性的單字給侷限化
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09/03 10:38, , 20F
這種東西只適合中學和聯考那種有範圍限制的考試
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09/03 10:39, , 21F
在字典上雖然是 to be something
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09/03 10:39, , 22F
但是例句裡面也有 to have failed, to be invited
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09/03 10:40, , 23F
各式各樣的使用方式，誰說一定要是something?
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08/06 07:41, , 24F
2. 查字典就有 co https://muxiv.com
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09/07 00:03, , 25F
卻硬要像原 po 舉的 https://daxiv.com
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12/02 18:21, , 26F
討論內容，其中談到 https://muxiv.com
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04/13 22:38, 6年前 , 27F
語言是本體，文法是整理 https://moxox.com
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