Re: D-Backs’ Ray Montgomery on Bauer and Bradley

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※ 引述《abc12812 ()》之銘言： : http://tinyurl.com/7yuzkvy : The Diamondbacks had two of the first seven picks in last June’s amateur : draft, and to say that scouting director Ray Montgomery is excited about : those players is an understatement. You can’t blame him. Right-hander Trevor : Bauer, who was taken third overall out of UCLA, is already close to : big-league ready with the potential to become a perennial all-star. Archie : Bradley, a 19-year-old right-hander, came out of Broken Arrow, Okla., with a : high-90s fastball and an equally good chance to become a dominant front-line : starter. 響尾蛇在在去年的選秀會上，前七順位有兩個選秀權，若是說小蛇總管盟歌馬力先生對於這件事很興奮，都還太保守了。你不能怪他。第三順位，UCLA出身的右投 Bauer，已經差不多準備好要上大聯盟，並且有那種每年都進明星賽的潛力。Archie Bradley，這位十九歲，Oklahoma Broken Arrow 地區出身的右投，直球是 High-90，一樣有機會變成前面幾個位置的先發。 : Montgomery gave scouting reports on both pitchers. He broke down their : deliveries, their repertoires and their mindsets. 盟歌馬力對這兩隻投手寫了球探報告。他分作投球機制、球種和心理素質來作分析。 : —— : Montgomery on Trevor Bauer: “I think you can start with the fact that prior : to us re-signing Joe Saunders, Trevor was going into major-league camp with : designs on that fifth-starter spot. That says a lot about his talent. : “He’s a four-pitch guy. He’ll tell you that it’s six pitches, but I think : that four is what he’ll end up throwing once he moves into the upper : echelon. They’re all average to above. He works off his fastball, which is : plus-plus at times. : “He throws a plus fastball, a plus-plus curveball, a tick-above-average : slider — which is almost a cutter — and a split-changeup. The fifth is kind : of a screwball, which he calls a ‘reverse.’ Basically, it’s a changeup : with screwball action and he’ll throw it to both right- and left-handed : hitters. He throws variations of his pitches, which sort of accounts for what : he means when he tells you it’s six. : “Velocity-wise, his ability to go up and down the scale, anywhere from 90 to : 98, is what benefits him. That goes for all pitchers. He throws both a : two-seamer and a four-seamer. He has the ability to sink a two-seam fastball : in the 90 to 93 range, and he also has the ability to throw a four-seam : fastball in the 95 to 96 range. That’s all predicated by how he’s attacking : hitters. 盟科馬力對包兒：「我想你可以從在我們重新簽下 Joe Sauders之前，其實包兒是我們大聯盟表訂春訓營的第五號先發寫起。」這很大一部份說明了他的天份。「他是個有四種球路的投手。他會告訴你他有六種，不過我想他在移往高階聯盟的時候，會投這四種。這些球種都是平均或平均以上的。他的直球用得很好（work off），有些時候這顆是很強很強的球路。「他有一顆很好的直球，一顆很好很好的曲球，一個稍微比平均好一點的滑球，這顆幾乎都是卡特了，還有一顆指叉變速球。第五種有點像是顆螺絲球，他稱這顆叫做『反向球』。基本上，那是一顆有著螺絲球移動方向的變速球，他對左右打者都會丟。他有些時候會在這些球路中做一些小小變化，所以他會跟你講說他有六種球路。」「球速而言，他可以投快一點也可以投慢一點，也就是從 90~98 mph他都可以投，這讓他有些優勢。所有的球種都可以這樣。他有兩縫線也有四縫線。他能夠將兩縫線直球控在90~93mph，他也可以丟一顆95~96mph的四縫線。這要看他要怎麼攻擊打者。」 : “I think the one thing that sums Trevor up best is that he just turned 21 : and he understands the idea of changing speeds, changing tempo and disrupting : hitters’ timing. He’s a very advanced thinker on the mound. Although he : gets lots of [Tim] Lincecum comparisons because of his delivery, I think his : stuff works more in an [Roy] Oswalt-type comparison. : “Mechanically, his delivery is an up-tempo, high-paced, high-energy : delivery, somewhat in the Lincecum mold. Trevor is 6-foot-1 and he gets every : bit of his 185 pounds into his delivery. Whereas some may call it a : max-effort delivery, I call it a maximum-optimum delivery. He’s using all of : his body parts equally. He’s using the stronger muscles to protect his arm — : his legs and his trunk. From a true mechanical standpoint, he’s very good : when you slow it down. There aren’t a lot of red flags in what he does. : “The way he trains is unique, and very extensive. Most of his movements are : for explosion. They’re all done in five- to 15-second increments, because : that’s how his body operates in the game. He’s not training for a marathon, : he’s training for the short, explosive movements that’s he going to have to : repeat 100 to 150 times a game. 「我想最好的總結包兒的地方，就是他才剛滿21歲，且他知道要變換速度、變換節奏、以及破壞打者的時間差這些事。他在丘上能夠非常成熟的思考。即便很多人因為他的投球機制把他拿去比林盲腸，我想他的 stuff 比較像是 Oswalt那種。「機制上，他的傳送模式是快節奏、高速、有力的傳送模式，有點像是林盲腸那種樣子。包兒是一個六呎一的投手，且他把他身上所有的185磅都拿來轉換進投球動作中。當有些人因而喚他作全力投球，我叫他全力最佳化投球。他很平均的用了他身體的每個部位。他用他強壯的肌肉，也就是他的腳和軀幹，來保護他的手臂。從純粹的投球機制來看，當你放慢來看，他這種動作非常棒。他的動作沒什麼好批評的地方。他訓練的方式非常獨特，很獨特且規模很大。他的動作大部分都是為了爆發。全部的訓練都是在五到十五秒的增額中完成，因為這就是他比賽時的方式。他不是為了馬拉松而訓練，他是為了短而有爆發力，他每場會重複100~150次的動作而訓練。 : “Trevor’s arm slot is high-three-quarters, almost overhand at times. He’s : got a little bit of what I would call a ‘head clear’ that gets him into : that slot, a la Lincecum. : “One thing Trevor has is really good deception. That goes back to what I was : saying about the disrupting of timing of the hitters. It’s very hard to pick : up the ball against him. Everything that comes out of his hand looks : identical, and that’s a very uncomfortable feeling as a hitter. If you can’ : t discern between the pitches in the first 13-hundredths of a second, you’re : in trouble. That’s what makes guys like that really, really difficult. Up : until his one hiccup in Double-A, which he backed up by throwing five strong : innings in the [Southern League] championship game, he was striking out 40% : of everyone he faced. To me, that’s indicative of hitters just not seeing : the ball. 「他的投球位置有點高 3/4，有些時候會是高壓。他有些時候會變成我所說的「清頭」（head clear）位置上，就像林盲腸一樣。「他有的一項特點就是他的投球隱蔽性非常好。這就回到了我剛剛提過，他能夠破壞打者的時間差。所以你很難對他挑球打。每一顆從他手裡丟出來的球都長得一樣，這對打者來說相當不舒服。如果你不能在投出的1/13 秒分辨出這顆是什麼，你就倒大霉了。這就是為什麼這種投手真的真的很難打。到現在他有的成績背書是，他在AA的一場比賽，他在（南方聯盟）冠軍賽丟了很棒的五局，三振了40%他面對的打者。對我來說，這暗示著打者根本看不到他的球。 : “Trevor is remarkably well-versed in the study of pitching — the art of : pitching — and the mechanics as they relate to him individually. He : understands the mechanics of what the body needs to do create optimal energy : and force, and how to throw a baseball with the optimal energy and force. He’ : s extremely intelligent. The other side of the coin is that he does need to : learn how to apply it to major-league hitters, and that’s going to be the : toughest part. : “If you talk to Trevor, you’ll understand that he pitches to quadrants of : the zone. He also pitches to try to disrupt hitters’ eye levels, so he wants : his pitches to come out on planes as well as to zones. He wants to repeat : pitches in their release point, plane and direction. Trevor is viewed as an : out-of-the-box thinker, but he’s a tactician.” 包兒在研究投球的時候是很多可以寫的 ---- 像是投球的藝術 ---- 以及他們對他本身的機制。他了解他的身體怎創造出這樣最佳化的力量和能量的機制，且如何用這樣最佳化的能量與力量來投球。他極端聰明。另一方面就是他還是需要將這些用在大聯盟打者上，而這會是最難的一部分。如果你跟包兒談話，你會了解他丟好球帶的四分之一。他也會丟那些要混淆打者眼光的球，所以他想要丟那些從飛機上來的，也想要丟那些進好球帶的。他想要在一樣的放球點上重複這樣的球，不管是高調或是任何位置。包兒被認為是個在預想之外的思考者，但他是一個戰略家。 : —— : On Archie Bradley: “Archie is different from Trevor in the physical sense — : he’s a lot bigger [6-foot-4, 225 pounds] — but he’s very similar in how : he goes about his business. He’s extremely focused and extremely passionate : about pitching. He’s a very good athlete. As you know, he was also a : football player. : “Archie is more of a two-pitch power package. Both are well above average. : His fastball touched 100 last year and I would grade his curveball, when it’ : s on, as good as anybody’s. : “He was a two-pitch guy in his high-school career, but he worked on a circle : changeup extensively in instructional league. I think it’s going to be a : good pitch for him. Our player development guys — Mel Stottlemyre,Jr. and : Jeff Pico — did a nice job citing the emphasis to him. They said, ‘We know : you have the fastball and breaking ball, but let’s make a concentrated : effort to add a third pitch because it will expand your repertoire and make : you more valuable.’ We’ll see down the road if it’s average or plus, but : for all intents and purposes, at this age, he’s a two-pitch power pitcher. : “You hear people say that you need three pitches to start in the big : leagues, but I would argue that. It’s nice to have three, but Ben Sheets : made a nice living with two power pitches. You could go down the list and : name others, as well. Ideally, like Trevor, the more the merrier, to disrupt : hitters’ timing, but you don’t necessarily need that. 阿奇和包兒在身體上不一樣 ---- 他比較高（六呎四，兩百五十五磅）不過他在投球上跟他很像。他對於投球非常專注且熱情。他有著很好的運動力。就像你知道的，他也是個美式足球員。他更像個兩種強力球路包在一起。兩種都遠高於平均。他的直球去年破了 100mph，而當他的曲球投出來的時候，他可以幹掉所有人的曲球。他在高中生涯是個兩種球路的投手，不過他正努力在指導聯盟練一顆圓圈變速球。我想對他而言這樣應該是顆不錯的球路。我們發展部門的兩個人，使逃得賣耳和皮可，他們提到，對他提出建議時，方法相當不錯。他們說，『我知道你有著直球和變化球，不過我們來努力幫你練出第三顆球路，因為這可以在你的球種上增加，並讓你更有價值。』我們之後就可以漸漸看到這顆會是普通還是很強的，不過不管怎樣，在這個年齡，他就是兩種球路的投手。你聽到人們再說你必須要三種球路才能在大聯盟先發，不過我會說，有三種當然很好，但是Ben Sheets在大聯盟有著兩顆很強的球就過得很好。你也可以講些出一堆其他投手來。理想上來講，就像包兒一樣，越多越好，能夠破壞打者的時間差，不過你不一定要有啦。 : “Mechanically, Archie is very solid. He throws from a high-three-quarters : slot with a fairly clean, easy, repeatable delivery for his age. Despite : having [been drafted] out of high school, Archie has been a pretty well known : commodity for years. We’ve been scouting him since he was a freshman in high : school. We watched his delivery continue to improve every year and we saw : some more of that at the end of the regular season last year, as well as in : instructional league. He grades well within the [biomechanical] parameters. : “I think the perception of Archie is that he’s a two-sport athlete who is : gifted with the ability to throw a baseball, and that’s all he does. But one : thing that has been very impressive with Archie, as we’ve gotten to know him : through this process, is that he’s quite the baseball historian. He has a : pretty good sense of what’s going on in the game. He’s not Trevor in that : respect — Trevor is unique — but he’s a pretty astute kid. : “Historically, your better high school arms tend to track through systems : pretty quickly. But to put a timetable on Archie, beyond him hopefully : starting the year with a full-season club, right now I think the idea is to : let him dictate to us how fast he moves. We challenge our prospects. We’re : not afraid to move them and if they show the ability to handle a level, they’ : ll continue to progress. Archie has a lot of talent, so he has chance to do : that.” 機制上，阿奇非常精實。他在3/4投球，並有著在他年齡而言，相當乾淨、簡單、能夠持續重複的機制。即便是高中選秀球員，阿奇被認識很久了。我們在他還在念高一的時候就開始觀察他。我們看著他每年的機制都持續進步且我們在去年球季的末端，還有指導聯盟的時候也看到了。他在生理機制參數上得分相當高。我想阿奇的看法是他是個會兩種運動的運動員，被賦予投直球的能力，且這就是他正在幹得事。不過他讓我們相當激賞的是，在我們一直了解他的過程中，他某種程度上是個棒球歷史學家。他對於球賽的感知相當好。這方面他就不是包兒了 ---- 包兒很獨特 ---- 不過他是一個相當機靈的孩子。歷史上而言，你的比較好的高中投手都會相當快速的通過農場。不過若是要為阿奇生個時間表，在希望他可以從一個可以打全季的球隊開始之上，我想我的想法是讓他指引我們他可以升多快。我們挑戰我們的作物。我們不怕在如果他能夠控制這個層級的時候，把他往上升。他們將會繼續長。阿奇有很多天份，所以他有機會可以這樣幹。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 220.229.71.5

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