[情報] 爵士 塞爾提克 討論先簽後換

看板Celtics作者 (wet)時間6年前 (2017/07/06 09:19), 6年前編輯推噓125(1250292)
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The Jazz are open to working out a sign-and-trade agreement with the Celtics w hich would send Gordon Hayward to Boston, according to Tony Jones of the Salt Lake Tribune. Jones adds that Utah is only willing to accept a deal as long as Hayward signs off on it. The small forward agreed to a max deal with the Celtics on Tuesday, though the team currently does not have the cap space to make that lucrative of an offer . Boston is looking to deal either Jae Crowder, Marcus Smart or Avery Bradley in order to make room for Hayward. The Celtics most likely could garner significant value in a trade for any of t he aforementioned players. While it’s possible that the team sends one of the three to Utah in a sign-and-trade for Hayward, such a move would be peculiar since it could likely fetch more in a trade with another club. Jones adds via Twitter that Boston may agree to such a move if Hayward told them it was a con dition for him to sign with the club. 大意 因為塞爾提克需要空出薪資空間,如果可以了話有可能跟爵士先簽後換將Bradley、Crowd er、Smart的其中一位送到爵士,而讓塞爾提克可以順利簽下Hayward 如果考慮爵士目前後場有Hood 、Rubio、Mitchell、Exum、Joe Johnson、Alec Burks、R aul Neto 相對後衛群爵士的小前鋒戰力比較薄弱,上述的Joe Johnson事實上上個球季上場時間還 有56%是打小前鋒 所以三位之中爵士最感興趣的或許是合約實惠又是小前鋒的Jae Crowder 補Woj的 Jazz, Celtics engage on Gordon Hayward sign-and-trade for Jae Crowder. Latest story with @ramonashelburne https://t.co/E9Eaa4t829 討論是先簽後換,Crowder到爵士 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 223.140.84.240 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Celtics/M.1499303973.A.6AE.html

07/06 09:21, , 1F
用先簽後換的話 至少爵士損失沒那麼大吧
07/06 09:21, 1F

07/06 09:21, , 2F
JC一直都是最實惠的吧,其他隊版都會討論
07/06 09:21, 2F

07/06 09:25, , 3F
大可把尻德交易給別隊拿些資產吧0.0
07/06 09:25, 3F

07/06 09:26, , 4F
交易完就有空間裸簽給爵士了
07/06 09:26, 4F

07/06 09:26, , 5F
*黑娃打成爵士
07/06 09:26, 5F

07/06 09:28, , 6F
其實也換不到什麼好資產
07/06 09:28, 6F
※ 編輯: dragon803 (223.140.84.240), 07/06/2017 09:28:36

07/06 09:28, , 7F
頂多是首輪末或者二輪籤
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07/06 09:28, , 8F
換資產也只能換籤吧,有哪隊有籤又缺JC這種的嗎?
07/06 09:28, 8F

07/06 09:28, , 9F
反正是爵士提的,黑娃ok的話也沒什麼不好
07/06 09:28, 9F

07/06 09:28, , 10F
爵士願意談當然很好,送Crowder去有競爭力的球隊
07/06 09:28, 10F

07/06 09:29, , 11F
也算對的起他了
07/06 09:29, 11F

07/06 09:29, , 12F
籃網吧XD
07/06 09:29, 12F

07/06 09:29, , 13F
籃網不需要JC吧哈哈,要填窮人線JC的約太小了XD
07/06 09:29, 13F

07/06 09:30, , 14F
這樣可以接受
07/06 09:30, 14F

07/06 09:30, , 15F
下季JC打我們的時候 對黑娃可能大爆發吧 怨念深重
07/06 09:30, 15F

07/06 09:30, , 16F
Woj說engage了
07/06 09:30, 16F

07/06 09:30, , 17F
JC QQQ希望在阿爵能好好發揮
07/06 09:30, 17F

07/06 09:31, , 18F
應該是成了
07/06 09:31, 18F

07/06 09:31, , 19F
看杰倫接受訪問看的出來 隊上有些人對於Hayward的
07/06 09:31, 19F

07/06 09:31, , 20F
到來似乎高興不起來
07/06 09:31, 20F

07/06 09:31, , 21F
謝謝JC 不要森77了
07/06 09:31, 21F

07/06 09:32, , 22F
其實這樣也是比較好的 對爵士或對JC來說
07/06 09:32, 22F

07/06 09:32, , 23F
至少JC在阿爵一定有發揮的餘地,祝福他~QQ
07/06 09:32, 23F

07/06 09:32, , 24F
尻德他本人的夜生活還滿多采的欸
07/06 09:32, 24F

07/06 09:33, , 25F
休息室的氣氛很好的關係吧,沒辦法
07/06 09:33, 25F

07/06 09:33, , 26F
到猶他隊尻德一定有所打擊
07/06 09:33, 26F

07/06 09:34, , 27F
突然覺得有點對不起JC 謝謝你...
07/06 09:34, 27F

07/06 09:34, , 28F
猶他還是有一定競爭力 JC這種3D能發揮實力更好
07/06 09:34, 28F

07/06 09:34, , 29F
安吉應該打過一輪電話,然後覺得這樣最好啦~
07/06 09:34, 29F

07/06 09:34, , 30F
後續沒動作,123號的輪替就跟去年差不多,JT去4號。
07/06 09:34, 30F

07/06 09:34, , 31F
有更好康的早就換了~
07/06 09:34, 31F

07/06 09:35, , 32F
Rubio穿針引線給Fav.狗貝 JC負責冷箭 說不定更好
07/06 09:35, 32F

07/06 09:35, , 33F
其實Ainge 還是比Riley 有人情味一點
07/06 09:35, 33F

07/06 09:35, , 34F
無論如何 感謝JC的付出 對我們請手下留情QQ
07/06 09:35, 34F

07/06 09:36, , 35F
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07/06 09:36, , 36F
好聚好散囉
07/06 09:36, 36F

07/06 09:36, , 37F
真假 有杰倫受訪影片嗎?
07/06 09:36, 37F

07/06 09:36, , 38F
Tatum 高光
07/06 09:36, 38F
還有 339 則推文
07/06 12:42, , 378F
不然 其他29隊GM難得看到有打劫安吉的機會
07/06 12:42, 378F

07/06 12:43, , 379F
怎麼可能會這麼好心幫忙清薪資空間 不順便撈點好處
07/06 12:43, 379F

07/06 13:02, , 380F
可能口氣能修飾一下大家看起來也比較舒服
07/06 13:02, 380F

07/06 13:02, , 381F
畢竟CBA規則相當複雜,而且每年都有修改
07/06 13:02, 381F

07/06 13:02, , 382F
連火箭莫雷號稱數據派的精算師,都會犯下Nene這種錯
07/06 13:02, 382F

07/06 13:02, , 383F
誤導致無法簽約的事
07/06 13:02, 383F

07/06 13:02, , 384F
當然,有人肯熱心提點我們當然是很高興
07/06 13:02, 384F

07/06 13:19, , 385F
還有,我覺得JC最少有一輪末,或者2個二輪
07/06 13:19, 385F

07/06 13:19, , 386F
今天JC的交易似乎是爵士方提的,當然先簽後換要問過
07/06 13:19, 386F

07/06 13:19, , 387F
GH
07/06 13:19, 387F

07/06 13:19, , 388F
但是以今天賽爾提克的狀況,拿JC去換交易特例,大家
07/06 13:19, 388F

07/06 13:19, , 389F
一定是搶著要
07/06 13:19, 389F

07/06 13:31, , 390F
安吉現在的交易風格其實有在進化,會注重球員的看法
07/06 13:31, 390F

07/06 13:31, , 391F
,也會評估是否對球隊氣氛有影響(當然殺價還是一把
07/06 13:31, 391F

07/06 13:31, , 392F
手XD)
07/06 13:31, 392F

07/06 13:31, , 393F
不會像莫雷那只注重數據
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07/06 13:31, , 394F
這樣的改變從去年成功招募來AL,到今年黑蛙FA加入
07/06 13:31, 394F

07/06 13:31, , 395F
成果慢慢的展現出來了
07/06 13:31, 395F

07/06 13:31, , 396F
(不然之前跟本沒人要來)
07/06 13:31, 396F

07/06 13:31, , 397F
球員由球員親自招募,真的是最有效的辦法,當然,跟
07/06 13:31, 397F

07/06 13:31, , 398F
目前的團抱風氣也不無關係
07/06 13:31, 398F

07/06 13:33, , 399F
個人認為安吉在談另外的交易,所以這個事情應該是交
07/06 13:33, 399F

07/06 13:33, , 400F
支持swa 的說法 講到我的點上了 謝謝
07/06 13:33, 400F

07/06 13:33, , 401F
給別人去做
07/06 13:33, 401F

07/06 13:39, , 402F

07/06 13:39, , 403F
看起來安吉跟球迷一樣樂觀呢 不想白放JC
07/06 13:39, 403F

07/06 13:40, , 404F
but they would need to reap some asset(s) from
07/06 13:40, 404F

07/06 13:41, , 405F
the Jazz beyond simply clearing the proper space
07/06 13:41, 405F

07/06 13:41, , 406F
for their free agent prize.
07/06 13:41, 406F

07/06 13:41, , 407F
Bulpett的消息應該可信吧XD
07/06 13:41, 407F

07/06 14:13, , 408F
安吉真的要搶喔?!這樣我們會不會被爵士球迷公幹啊(
07/06 14:13, 408F

07/06 14:13, , 409F
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07/06 15:53, , 410F
乖乖看戲就好 我們又不是安吉 爵士GM也不是爵迷 XD
07/06 15:53, 410F

07/06 16:11, , 411F
我還記得爵士老闆有上過臥底老闆,看起來真的滿在
07/06 16:11, 411F

07/06 16:11, , 412F
乎當地的
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07/06 16:20, , 413F
臥底那個 不是有人說是套好的嗎
07/06 16:20, 413F

07/06 16:21, , 414F
但是當下看完感覺很真也很感動
07/06 16:21, 414F

07/06 17:09, , 415F
沒有JC的防守和靈活防守位置 明年應該崩崩DER
07/06 17:09, 415F

07/06 21:17, , 416F
臥底老闆我覺得50%真50%假 畢竟節目也是需要效果跟
07/06 21:17, 416F

07/06 21:17, , 417F
收視率
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