[選秀]聯合體測營第二日,騎士試訓情報

看板Cavaliers作者 (Mr.Vengeance)時間12年前 (2012/06/08 15:50), 編輯推噓27(27069)
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Kidd-Gilchrist didn't elaborate much on the month he spent in Cleveland preparing for the combine and his rookie season. He just said it was set up by Rich Paul, who is representing him. Paul works for Creative Arts Agency. MKG對自己近期都待在CLE附近自主訓練,不表示意見,只說試訓的安排由經紀人 Rich Paul負責。(也許有很多人不清楚,R. Paul就是「LRMR」左邊的那個R) 如果職業精神 & 敬業態度是騎士制服組考評人才的焦點,MKG必然是A.Davis以外首 選。在克里夫蘭一帶持續自主訓練的他,對於加盟騎士有極高的意願,唯一的問題 是:即便陣容過於殘破的山貓跳過他,巫師隊也應該會挑走。然而騎士要向上交易 到山貓的2號籤,索價一定非常高昂。事實上排前幾名的球員只為特定球隊試訓,並 非罕見,如去年KI就只為騎士試訓,如果MKG比照辦理,或許山貓、巫師會打消念頭 ,anyway,別去期待這種狀況。 Baylor's Perry Jones said he met Wednesday with the Cavs' contingent, but doesn't have a workout scheduled with them yet. Jones admitted he is spen- ding this week dispelling the notion he doesn't have a high motor and isn't passionate about the game. PJIII昨天跟騎士面談完畢,但尚未敲定試訓日期,並且強調自己會在這週聯合體測 營,證明自己有企圖心、夠上進。 Florida shooting guard Bradley Beal is meeting with the Cavs today. He keeps hearing the team likes him, but today will mark his first real contact with them. "I'd love to play with Kyrie Irving," Beal said. He is promoting him- self as a combo guard, which is a bit surprising. He is viewed strictly as a shooting guard in most NBA circles. He measured in at 6-4, which was a big concern coming in. At least a few people around the league wondered if he'd measure in lower than his listed 6-3, which certainly would hurt his stock. Beal is on the Cavs' short list, but he may not make it to them. The Wizards seem to be high on him and are drafting one spot ahead of the Cavs. Beal今天跟騎士面談完畢,之前一直傳出騎士對他評價甚高,但至今雙方才真的見面 。「我樂於跟KI並肩作戰」,雖然球路是SG,但Beal強調自己是雙能衛。實測身高6'4 可能讓他身價小有下滑。3號籤的巫師似乎很喜歡他? While all of the other players are appearing for interviews in workout clo- thes, Harrison Barnes arrived wearing black dress pants, a striped dress shirt and a Carolina blue sweater. "This is your job now," Barnes said. "You always want to try to look professional and nice. Personally, I think how you dress says a lot about how you carry yourself." Barnes is extremely smooth and polished, much like Kyrie Irving. 有別於其他人都穿著體測所需服裝,Barnes以比較潮的打扮登場,「現在這是職業場 合了,你總要時時穿的讓人感覺專業又好看,我覺得一個人的穿衣品味象徵他如何看 待自己」。 That's not surprise. Barnes and Irving met during a basketball camp before college and immediately hit it off. They became fast friends and each calls the other one of his closest friends. I asked Barnes how a Duke and Carolina guy could be so close. "He only played 10 games. He jokes with me it took me 60 games to get drafted." Barnes said Irving influenced his decision to sign with agent Jeff Wechsler, who also reps Irving. Now Barnes is spending this summer at Wechsler's home in Miami, much like Irving did last year. Lloyd記者認為HB講話調調跟KI有點像,並非偶然,這兩人在某次籃球營遇到後,很快 成為密友。KI會調侃他要打滿60場大學籃球才能被選到,自己只要10場(後來就腳傷 啦)。HB選擇名氣較小的Jeff Wechsler當經紀人也是受Irving影響。 Damian Lillard, the explosive scoring guard from Weber State, said the Cavs was one of a handful of teams to watch him work out at his school after the season. Cavs GM Chris Grant attended Lillard's game at Portland State back in January, while the Cavs were in town to play the Trail Blazers, and came away impressed. Lillard is a point guard who says he had to take on the role of scorer because that's what his team needed. But he feels he can be a distributor in the NBA, too. Lillard killed it during his workout today. Great day shooting the ball. 爆發力十足的後衛Lillard提到騎士是少數有派人前去母校Weber State觀察他測試的 隊伍之一。騎士1月份作客波特蘭的時候Grant總管也前往Portland State觀賞他的球 賽。Lillard表示他的學校需要得分手,所以他盡力為之,但到NBA他也能有別的貢獻。 Kentucky shooting guard Doron Lamb said he has a workout scheduled with the Cavs. He is a candidate with their second pick in the first round (No. 24 overall) or perhaps in the second round. Lamb has a sweet shooting stroke, but was overshadowed by all of the talent on the Wildcats' roster. 肯大Doron Lamb表示已經跟騎士約好試訓,此人可能在騎士的24號籤或33、34號籤被 選到。Lamb有不錯的投籃,只是肯大團隊卓越的天分多少掩蓋他的光芒。 Finally, Kansas point guard Tyshawn Taylor worked out at Cleveland Clinic Courts two weeks ago. He said it wasn't one of his best days, but says his defensive mindset would fit in nicely on the Cavs. He seems himself as a combo guard who could either back up Irving or play alongside him, but the Cavs likely view him as a backup point guard. Byron Scott likes to carry three point guards and the Cavs have only Donald Sloan right now. Daniel Gibson can play the point in a pinch, but he's better suited as an off-guard and he's coming off foot surgery that ended his season prematurely. 堪薩斯大學控衛T. Taylor兩週前來騎士試訓,他表示當天狀況雖非頂尖,但自己防守 至上的觀念保證騎士會喜歡。這段報導沒寫到,但Taylor說他知道目前KI是騎士第一 控衛,他打替補沒有問題。 Andre Drummond 對於莊猛(平常我盡量不用對岸翻譯,但無法不承認這個不錯)的大學生涯第一年, 為什麼表現不如預期,騎士非常想知道。莊猛今天跟騎士有面談,他表示現階段只安 排去5隊試訓。 The Cavaliers are very high on the 20-year-old small forward and appear unlikely to let him slip past them at the No. 4 slot in the June 28 draft, according to sources. While this week’s predraft combine in Chicago and subsequent team workouts could always change things, rival executives are planning for Barnes to be off the board by the time the fifth pick (Sacramento) rolls around. “He’s a pretty big deal to them,” one such executive said. 這是運動畫刊的Sam Amick消息,他指出騎士對Barnes的評價仍然極高,只要四號籤他 還在名單上,必選。當然,芝加哥大試訓營才剛開幕,一切都是未知數。我每次都會 不厭其煩的強調:這個Sam Amick跟Ohio的Sam Amico不同人,前者雖然對國王的情況 較為嫻熟,但總體情報力勝過後者,Amick的得意事蹟是去年選秀前準確預測騎士選 擇T. Thompson。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 192.192.58.18

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06/08 16:46, , 3F
雖然蠻喜歡MKG的 但Cavs要選到很難啊...
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06/08 19:14, , 5F
支持MKG!!!
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06/08 19:27, , 6F
喔.. 不 我還是對Barnes怕怕的 總覺得他是地雷
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06/08 19:29, , 7F
所以Beal是穿鞋6-4喔 那真的很矮... 不是聽說是6-4 1/2嗎?
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06/08 19:32, , 8F
不過Barnes心態的成熟和苦練的精神還不錯
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06/08 19:38, , 9F
感覺2~6順位沒什麼差別 拓荒者想交易就來吧XD
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06/08 20:38, , 10F
好吧支持Drummond吧 好歹去前也是被預測12年狀元人選
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06/08 20:59, , 11F
對,6' 4.5是我聽到的,不過既然體測營是量這樣,就以
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06/08 20:59, , 12F
官方為準吧~
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06/08 21:56, , 13F
Drummond的5隊目前是阿拓 76人,黃蜂 山貓 騎士...據說啦
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06/08 22:25, , 14F
感謝~
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很有可能前五順位的T-Rob完全沒有情報??@@
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06/08 23:17, , 16F
對,有的話我怎麼不會放XD
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06/08 23:18, , 17F
^可能
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06/08 23:45, , 19F
有新消息出來了,Beal穿鞋是6'4.75喔
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06/08 23:54, , 20F
我覺得不用去在意那點幾吋耶,事實上SG 6'4就是偏矮阿orz
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06/08 23:56, , 21F
這也是他為何選秀身價下滑的原因之一,不是人人都wade~
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06/09 00:02, , 22F
Beal選秀身價根本沒下滑啊...穿鞋195對他身價才是有正面幫
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06/09 00:03, , 23F
助 現在NBA根本不太care那一點差別
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我個人是不在意,但球探跟媒體都顯得很在意啊~
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穿鞋195??@@
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06/09 00:24, , 26F
依所知情報而言,不太希望選Barnes...
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06/09 00:24, , 27F
Beal的切入蠻像Wade的風格阿
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但比較想選到MKG
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目前比較想選Drummond~
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06/09 02:37, , 30F
Beal到最後影響身價的不會是身高 會是他在測試中的持球
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06/09 02:37, , 31F
其實他的切入多少有被誇大 半個月後再看看吧
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06/09 10:13, , 32F
其實最想選MKG
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06/09 11:09, , 33F
BEAL哪時身價下滑了.......反而他剛打NCAA是5~10左右
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06/09 11:09, , 34F
現在已經變前五了 甚至不少都將他排在第三
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06/09 11:09, , 35F
他這身高打SG剛剛好很夠了
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06/09 13:15, , 36F
順位是沒有下滑,只是最早聽到Beal時,有人說模板是Ray,有
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06/09 13:17, , 37F
有人說是米勒,評價很高。越接近選秀,質疑他身高的聲音越
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06/09 13:18, , 38F
多,我才會覺得身價下滑啦~~ 感謝h大,668指教orz
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06/09 13:22, , 39F
但是以NBA聯盟身高PG:6-0~6-4,SG:6-4~6-7,SF:6-6~6-8左右
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06/09 13:24, , 40F
6-4的身高真的不高耶~所以煤體和球探才會那麼在意吧??@@
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若如a大,h大,x大所言,Beal應是優秀到不用在意那一點點身
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06/09 13:26, , 42F
高了吧??@@ 這樣讓我覺得有點期待XDDD
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06/09 13:28, , 43F
如果切入在測試後仍有很高評價,倒是蠻期待他變成ray或red
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這類的球員的~
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老實說 其實我是屬於對他期待比較保守那種 只是球探對於
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Beal原先的高度大概是在6-3,6-4左右 現在測試出來是接近
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6呎5 這對他評價一定是有增無減的
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保守的意思是Beal比較不屬於潛力型??@@
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也不是 大一能被排再前三前五 潛力是無庸置疑的 只是他在
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UF所展現的 我不認為已經有好到穩居這麼前面 多少是因為
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Rivers Lamb今年發揮和預期有段落差 才讓Beal多少有些時勢
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造英雄衝上去 其實他也是屬於那種有一定戰力 但還有待調教
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那種
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不要被甚麼SG標準6尺6騙了 飛人的時代早就過去了
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不是人人都MJ好嗎........失敗品一堆 要挑就挑強的End
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6尺9大前也一堆明星級 不一定高就強 把臂展算進去
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跟甚麼6尺10左右的PF差異也不大....而且力量也要考量進
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去 像TT瘦是瘦但是頗硬 有些像Durant瘦但也沒本錢一直打
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禁區 SF才是他最大功用的位子 越來越多高個往這方面發展
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不過投籃就是不準 所以沒啥用..........
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06/09 16:47, , 61F
聯盟做奇怪的問題就是一堆7尺喜歡投外線 矮個反而在禁區
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討生活很成功......跟90s差異好大.......
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06/09 16:50, , 63F
所以我認為就算陣容比較小 也不會輸那種賣高的 夠硬就可
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06/09 16:51, , 64F
像當初09對魔術 根本問題就是守不住魔獸 如果有Perkins
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之流跟他耗 不要像大Z軟軟的去守 也可能打成55波
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不過可有個疑問 為什麼莊猛的高光有後仰跳投....
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他低位只有這招嗎....很怕他是Cousins那種防守硬 進攻
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愛投籃的類型.....
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06/09 17:45, , 69F
只看Highlight那莊猛現在就跟LeBron一樣強了~
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印象中看過一個報導他大一球季命中的跳投顆數超少
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06/09 18:48, , 71F
Drummond有翻身跳投啊 這應該是他低位最穩定的進攻手段了
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不過動作跟僵屍翻身差不多醜 不太看好能在NBA使用 而且範
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圍僅限籃下3~5呎左右
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他禁區內沒有什麼低位腳步 假動作之類的攻擊技巧
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出了三秒區就更慘了
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06/09 18:54, , 76F
拿還算乾淨吧 甚麼技巧都沒有 所以都要球隊幫忙吧
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如果跟DH同樣模式成長就好了 不過他Finger roll不錯
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投籃可以進步.........
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其實我對他finger roll手感沒什麼印象....僵屍翻身和扣籃
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是真的不少就是
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06/09 19:41, , 81F
對了我可否請問一下 h大您有特別支持哪隊嗎?
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06/09 20:16, , 82F
Louisville
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06/11 16:59, , 83F
MKG跟KI是好基友阿....MKG喜歡CAV的環境 騎士選他意願
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應該是最高的吧.....雖然經紀人是LBJ的手下 但他的態度
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非常好.....
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應該說是克里夫蘭的環境
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06/11 17:34, , 87F
那個Paul長期留在CLE是有任務的,這幾天如果有發文再講
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06/11 17:39, , 88F
John Calipari就是CAA的超級客戶啊 MKG自己也是簽給Leon
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Rose 當初CAA簽下Calipari也是想搞大學明星這一塊
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因此會跟Irving麻吉也不太意外(堤外話 和KI很麻吉的還有
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Rivers)
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06/11 20:10, , 92F
是說小河流嗎? 該不會他老姊真的是KI的女友吧XD
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叫姊夫!
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06/12 17:26, , 94F
......不是只有合照而已嗎 囧
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官方為準吧~ https://noxiv.com
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