Re: [新聞] 62轟才是純淨紀錄？大聯盟總裁：交給球迷論斷

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※ 引述《polanco (polanco)》之銘言： : 噓 HsiangFly: 為何媒體都要刻意炒作法官是最純的？當初不抓現在才 10/08 12:56 : → HsiangFly: 來拿清朝的劍展明朝的官 10/08 12:56 : 推 Coffeewater: 官方不想統一標準讓球迷繼續再吵100年吧 10/08 13:24 : → Coffeewater: 那個時代就是有在吃藥但沒認真管啊 10/08 13:25 現在有種說法好像是認為當時禁藥氾濫都是聯盟官方的錯都是聯盟官方不制定規則放任球員打藥才導致禁藥年代的產生但這種說法其實完全忽略了球員方在制定藥檢規則上的腳色首先在美國工會法規定是公司方不能單方面制定藥檢規則必須要和工會談判達成協議後才能實施藥檢 (Johnson-Bateman Co. (NLRB 1989)) 然而當時聯盟和球員對藥檢的態度又是如何呢? 參考2002年的這篇文獻回顧 (pg. 443) https://scholarship.law.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1112&context=jbl After the Pittsburgh Drug Trials concluded, Ueberroth made a push for voluntary drug-testing of all MLB players. The MLBPA rejected the plan in 1985, objecting to it because they believed drug-testing intrinsically presumed guilt on the part of the players. ... ... After experiments with such initiatives as sanctioning for drug use, a joint management-players' association drug program, and unilateral League management proposals, currently no systematic testing program or disciplinary regime in baseball has been agreed upon through the vehicle of collective bargaining. T hroughout this process, player objections to mandatory drug-testing have included the notion that testing is an invasion of privacy, an insult to player integrity, and an ineffective deterrent of drug use (especially considering there was no scientific data demonstrating widespread drug use among the League's players). 從上回顧可知早在1985年聯盟就希望推動藥檢程序但球員工會方持續反對理由包括: 對球員有罪推定侵犯隱私污辱球員道德缺少阻嚇力以至於到2002年聯盟都無法訂定可實施的藥檢規則可以說禁藥年代的發生有一大部分的原因就是球員自己兼裁判一直以來阻止藥檢的實施才讓工會成員能在這段時間內打藥打爽爽然後等現在禁藥事件爆發後卻又要球迷不要用有色眼光看待當時打藥的球員恩...這是不是有點太過自助餐了阿 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 98.169.10.245 (美國) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Baseball/M.1665235994.A.167.html

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