Fw: [外電] 國民是否能承受等待世界大賽的壓力?

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※ [本文轉錄自 MLB 看板 #1Tft3Ipv ] 作者: zouelephant (毛毛象) 看板: MLB 標題: [外電] 國民是否能承受等待世界大賽的壓力? 時間: Thu Oct 17 03:34:38 2019 今天沒比賽打,乾脆來翻譯一下MLB官網文章。 來源:https://www.mlb.com/news/nationals-now-have-long-wait-for-world-series Can Nationals handle the weight of the wait? 國民是否能承受等待世界大賽的壓力? [Just ask 2006, '12 Tigers how long layoff before World Series worked out] The good news for the Washington Nationals is that they are in their first World Series. They beat the champions of the National League West and now they ’ve swept the champs of the NL Central. They were down two games to one to the Dodgers and came back to win Game 4. They were down 3-1 in the late innings of Game 5 at Dodger Stadium, and then Anthony Rendon and Juan Soto hit back-to-back home runs against Clayton Kershaw, and Howie Kendrick began turning into Mr. October for the Nats. Now here they are. Waiting. That’s the bad news for the Nationals, riding all this crazy momentum. They wait and keep waiting until the series between the Astros and Yankees is over. And while they wait, they hope that when they start playing again, at either Minute Maid Park or at Yankee Stadium, that they won’t have suffered from the Curse of the Tigers. 國民隊第一次進入世界大賽是好消息。他們接連擊敗國西、國中冠軍,在分區賽輸掉第三 場後他們扳平第四場;第五戰3:1落後時Rendon、Soto對Kershaw的B2B全壘打、然後 Howie Kendrick扮演十月先生帶國民上天堂。現在他們要迎接世界大賽--前的等待時間。 這對正挾瘋狂士氣的國民隊就不是好消息了。他們得一直等到太空人跟洋基系列賽結束後 才有球打,國民隊該祈禱這段時間他們不要受到「老虎魔咒」的影響。 Twice under Jim Leyland, one of the great managers of all time, the Tigers swept the American League Championship Series, and then basically had to wait a week to start the World Series. The first time was in 2006. They swept the Oakland A’s. They were the ones riding crazy momentum. They had a talented kid named Justin Verlander pitching for them. And then they waited while the Cardinals and the Mets went seven long and dramatic games. That NLCS didn’t end until the bottom of the 9th of Game 7 at Shea Stadium, when Adam Wainwright --he was the talented kid pitching for the Cardinals that year -- struck out Carlos Beltran, looking, with a curve ball that seemed to start up in the skyline of New York City and drop down to lower Manhattan, even though the Mets had runners on the bases who could have won them the pennant. The Tigers watched that one, and waited. And when they finally did start playing baseball again, they looked more stale than stale bread, and lost to the Cardinals in five games. All season long you play games, day after day and night after night. Then you get a longer layoff than most players get during the All-Start break. We hear all the time about how baseball players are creatures of habit. The Tigers fell out of their habits and came crashing to earth. It doesn’t mean they would have beaten the Cardinals if they’d gone right from a Game 7 of their own to Game 1 of a World Series. But we’ll never know. 名教練Jim Leyland曾兩次帶領老虎隊在美聯冠軍賽橫掃對手,然後在世界大賽前等一個 禮拜。第一次是在2006橫掃運動家,當時他們氣勢如虹,而且還有年輕而才華洋溢的投手 Justin Verlander。當年國聯冠軍賽一直打到第七戰,紅雀才在客場擊敗大都會,當時也 是英雄出少年的Adam Wainwright在九局下三振掉Carlos Beltran,空留三個大都會跑者 在壘包上。(按:此時川普正在本壘後的高級觀賽區眼睜睜看著Molina跳起來歡呼,非常 經典) https://i.imgur.com/SRvJEti.png
老虎隊看完這場比賽後開始打世界大賽,但他們變得無比死屍並在五場比賽中輸給紅雀。 平常打球是天天打,突然放了一個比明星賽後還要長的假期差很多。我們常聽人家說棒球 選手是「習慣」的生物,那老虎隊就是丟掉了那些習慣然後炸掉的。並不是說他們如果一 樣打七場後再跟紅雀對壘就會贏,但留下很大的想像空間。 Six years later, it happened to the Tigers exactly the same way. They swept the Yankees in the ALCS, finishing them off with ease at Comerica Park. And then they waited. Again. This time it was the Giants and the Cardinals in a long and grueling and dramatic NLCS. The Giants finally won Game 7. While Jim Leyland and the Tigers, whose two aces that year were a couple of pretty decent right-handers named Verlander and Max Scherzer -- they won 33 games between them that season -- once again waited to rejoin October. This is what Leyland said seven years ago after his Tigers had once again swept a League Championship Series: “I do think the lull between our playoff and the World Series did work against us in 2006. Now, that's not to take anything away from the St. Louis Cardinals. But all of a sudden, our emotion went from so high to just a blah, looking at each other for six days of staring at each other with really no action. That's hard.'' No action. Really hard. Even harder than they remembered. This time Leyland’ s Tigers, unable to shake off the rust, didn’t lose the World Series in five games. They got swept by Bruce Bochy’s Giants, the second championship club of the manager’s three between 2010 and ‘14. In the spring of this year, this is what Verlander told the Detroit media about his Tiger teams not winning the World Series while he was pitching in Detroit: "The reason was the time off before the two World Series. We had the talent to do it for many years. When it comes to playoff time, it's kind of a roll of the dice. It comes down to the hottest team at the right time. I think we were that team, twice, and we got cooled off by the week layoff for the World Series both times. It sucks; that's the name of the game. … It's probably the one sport, this sport, where the time off like that wouldn't help you. Every other sport I think it's a benefit, but this one, it is absolutely a negative." 六年後,老虎幾乎複製了2006的流程,美聯冠軍賽在主場掃掉洋基。然後這次換成看國聯 紅雀打巨人,巨人辛苦打到第七戰贏下來。當時老虎隊手上有雙王牌Justin Verlander跟 Max Scherzer,這兩隻在2012合計拿了33勝。Leyland在2012年美聯冠軍賽後這麼說:「 我覺得2006年世界大賽前的空檔確實造成不良影響。不是說紅雀的冠軍不純,但一瞬間我 們球隊情緒從最高點降到像個屁。只能看著對面打球六天而我們什麼都沒辦法做,這很艱 困。」 這次老虎隊沒有重演2006的五戰輸掉世界大賽了,因為他們四戰就被Bochy帶領的巨人軍 掃掉。今年春天記者曾問Verlander對於在老虎打球時沒拿到世界大賽冠軍的想法, Verlander表示「問題就是出在世界大賽前的空檔。我們有能力連年打季後賽,但只要進 了十月,一切就像擲骰子。最燙的隊伍在關鍵時刻也會出包,我覺得我們就是那隻隊伍, 被那個空檔陰了兩次,手感經過一個禮拜都冷了。這很鳥,但這就是關鍵。...這或許 是唯一一種休息沒好處的運動,在其他比賽能休息是優點,但在棒球絕對是缺點。」 He and his teammates found out the hard way. Twice. If his Astros go on to win the ALCS, even in a long series, maybe he will be the beneficiary of the other team’s layoff this time. Or maybe two of his old teammates, Scherzer and An燢al S嫕chez, will change things all around for their new team. Reverse the curse. Curse of the Tigers. Maybe it’s not really a thing. We’ ll see, starting next week. 假如這次Verlander所屬的太空人打了比較長的系列賽而贏下美聯冠軍,或許這次就換他 成為敵隊長時間休息的受益者。但也可能他的老隊友Scherzer跟Sanchez能為他們的新東 家改變這個套路,破除「老虎魔咒」。下個禮拜大家就可以親眼見證。 ============================================================================== 這篇寫出很多國民支持者考慮的點。橫掃固然很好,讓不死鳥進G5G6夜長夢多,絕非好事 但過去在冠軍戰掃掉對手進世界大賽的結果是1-7,除了1995年的勇士外全部輸球 國民休息這個禮拜會怎麼練兵、休養、研究對手,面對強敵太空人/洋基都是硬仗 另外很有趣的是,大部分這篇文章提到的人現在也都活躍當中。 Verlander Scherzer Sanchez是老隊友,而且很有機會在世界大賽變成對手 V中年跟Scherzer分別成為太空人跟國民的王牌,Sanchez不減其在老虎季後賽時的身手 Wainwright Molina過了十三年成為老將,昨天還是在打國聯冠軍賽。 前者接手Hudson被打的七分大局,後者敲出一支全壘打。可惜最後被國民清盤。 當年被三振的Beltran正在面試大都會教頭一職,而且看起來挺有機會拿到Offer。 看著大都會在自家主場輸球的紐約大亨Trump正在當總統,進行推特治國活動。 不知道今年他會不會在白宮支持國民隊? -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 219.91.30.83 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/MLB/M.1571254482.A.CF9.html

10/17 03:59, 6年前 , 1F
傷心往事
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※ 編輯: zouelephant (219.91.30.83 臺灣), 10/17/2019 04:40:32

10/17 06:05, 6年前 , 2F
文就是故意列出現在還在活躍的一線人物,讀者才會有f
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10/17 06:05, 6年前 , 3F
eel
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10/17 06:07, 6年前 , 4F
可惜今年熊貓不搶眼,不然2012 WS他把V中轟垮更值得
10/17 06:07, 4F

10/17 06:07, 6年前 , 5F
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10/17 06:50, 6年前 , 6F
還有Rodney
10/17 06:50, 6F

10/17 07:16, 6年前 , 7F
在對面下雨延賽後又多了變數 對面的休息時間變少 誰有優勢
10/17 07:16, 7F

10/17 07:16, 6年前 , 8F
難說
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10/17 07:33, 6年前 , 9F
基本上就是讓野手跟牛棚維持手感 先發就休好休滿
10/17 07:33, 9F

10/17 07:38, 6年前 , 10F
the Curse of the Tigers...「這不是洋基..這不是運動家..」
10/17 07:38, 10F

10/17 08:08, 6年前 , 11F
國民也沒辦法想這麼多,給季後紅雀搶回一兩勝太冒險
10/17 08:08, 11F

10/17 08:14, 6年前 , 12F
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10/17 08:14, 6年前 , 13F
昨天其實解決的很驚了 好幾次紅鳥沒把握住
10/17 08:14, 13F

10/17 08:15, 6年前 , 14F
面對這隻隨時會燃起來的生物 早處理早好
10/17 08:15, 14F

10/17 08:16, 6年前 , 15F
今年是跌破一堆眼鏡才走到這 就走到那算那吧
10/17 08:16, 15F

10/17 08:17, 6年前 , 16F
好歹後面現在有水兵坦著...
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※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ※ 轉錄者: zouelephant (219.91.30.83 臺灣), 10/17/2019 08:47:46

10/17 08:51, 6年前 , 17F
照片後面的觀眾好像川普喔
10/17 08:51, 17F
這或許是因為他就是川普

10/17 08:51, 6年前 , 18F
維持手感可以自辦對抗賽就好啦
10/17 08:51, 18F
跟實戰比還是有差吧 但是應該是非練不可 ※ 編輯: zouelephant (219.91.30.83 臺灣), 10/17/2019 08:55:25

10/17 08:56, 6年前 , 19F
別提了 虎迷崩潰
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10/17 09:00, 6年前 , 20F
前虎迷崩潰
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10/17 09:04, 6年前 , 21F
好文推
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10/17 09:09, 6年前 , 22F
[哇靠]野生的川普
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10/17 09:11, 6年前 , 23F
在紐約打就蠻能理解川普為何在那了xdd
10/17 09:11, 23F

10/17 09:14, 6年前 , 24F
優質,棒球迷人之處!
10/17 09:14, 24F

10/17 09:16, 6年前 , 25F
太空進世界的話,虎迷應該變meme素材XD
10/17 09:16, 25F

10/17 09:24, 6年前 , 26F
還沒從政的川普..川普跟NYY的老老闆蠻好的
10/17 09:24, 26F

10/17 09:32, 6年前 , 27F
當年紅雀派個新人先發G1 結果竟然還壓制老虎
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10/17 09:38, 6年前 , 28F
川普那排右邊也有一個蠻像希拉蕊的
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10/17 09:45, 6年前 , 29F
國民昨天都把牛推出來讓你打.不死鳥得四分後就沒力.
10/17 09:45, 29F

10/17 09:48, 6年前 , 30F
虎迷我崩潰了TAT
10/17 09:48, 30F

10/17 10:06, 6年前 , 31F
過去案例也可以拿2007球季的洛磯 從163場的加賽打
10/17 10:06, 31F

10/17 10:06, 6年前 , 32F
到國聯冠軍八連勝 結果因為休息太久世界大賽被紅襪
10/17 10:06, 32F

10/17 10:06, 6年前 , 33F
橫掃
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10/17 10:26, 6年前 , 34F
他們保持比賽節奏自己隊內對抗就好
10/17 10:26, 34F

10/17 10:27, 6年前 , 35F
又不是甲慶本在那發呆看電視看洋基空人XD
10/17 10:27, 35F

10/17 10:47, 6年前 , 36F
大家都嘛會戰戰兢兢練習 但是沒實戰就是會冷掉
10/17 10:47, 36F

10/17 11:13, 6年前 , 37F
休好休滿真的有點可怕
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10/17 13:02, 6年前 , 38F
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