Re: [心得] 2013開季閒聊(四)...

看板Angels作者tunababy (相信妳自己,真的....)時間10年前 (2013/08/25 12:33)推噓4(4推 0噓 0→)

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這應該是今天最熱門的天使新聞了.... 這個報導對Arte非常兇悍.... http://0rz.tw/nUTnS 取了重點....(其實hunter和Pujols對幹)根本都不是重點.... Since his first full year as owner of the Angels in 2004, Moreno has fired close to 40 members of the front office, baseball operations department and scouting and medical staffs. The Angels maintain a skeletal front-office staff in many areas, and one of the leanest game-day staffs in all of baseball. If someone is let go, there often is no replacement hired. Moreno is said to gouge hours from his low-paid employees. As for the club being on-deck to miss the playoffs for a fourth consecutive year, many in the organization thought the team needed more pitching help rather than Pujols during the winter of 2011-2012 when Moreno decided on the Cardinals free agent. After all, the Angels at that point already had a slugging first baseman in Kendrys Morales. Last winter, many key members of the baseball operations department wanted to make more of an effort to re-sign Zack Greinke, but it was Moreno who steered them to free agent Josh Hamilton. Though he has spent millions on players, including a record $153 million on this year's payroll, many people both inside and outside of the Angels organization agree that Moreno's reign of terror has created obstacles not only impossible for the club to overcome, but ones that have shifted the Angels into reverse. When the decision was made to pursue Vernon Wells from Toronto before the 2011 season, a move Scioscia is said to have endorsed, it was Moreno, one source says, who threatened then-GM Tony Reagins with a firing if Reagins didn't consummate the deal within 24 hours. Moreno is described as being chapped at having lost free agent Adrian Beltre to the Rangers roughly two weeks earlier, and that helps explain why, in an agreement that utterly stunned almost everybody in the game, the Angels agreed to pay all but $5 million of the $86 million to a player that Toronto was so eager to offload that the Jays surely could have been persuaded to pay millions more. “Arte needs to stay out of the baseball business,” one baseball person says. “Arte thinks he knows the game. He doesn't know the game. He only knows the money, the business side.” Moreno grandiosely awarded Scioscia an unheard-of 10-year deal before the 2009 season. Now the longest-tenured manager in the game, Scioscia led the club to the 2002 World Series title – before Moreno became owner, though Moreno accompanied the club on its celebratory White House visit in May, 2003, shortly after he purchased the club – but the length of that contract has hamstrung the organization in other ways. Chiefly, it centered the organization's power structure in the manager's office (and the owner's chair). Now, after Moreno fired Reagins and hired Jerry Dipoto as GM before the 2011 season, the most dysfunctional manager-GM relationship in the game rages onward. The situation probably became irreparable the moment Dipoto blindsided Scioscia by firing hitting coach Mickey Hatcher without the manager's knowledge last May. It has become a miserable situation, several sources say, and as colleague Jon Heyman notes, something has to give. Meanwhile, others within the organization worry over where the money can possibly come from to keep young superstar Mike Trout a lifelong Angel. With millions upon millions already committed to Pujols, Hamilton, Wilson and Weaver, many wonder how the club will possibly be able to produce the Brinks-truck full of cash it will take to keep Trout. And all the while, with Pujols out for the season and Hamilton slogging through a lost season, the losses mount. ※ 引述《tunababy (相信妳自己,真的....)》之銘言： : 如果你看payroll的話,其實你就會跟我一樣對天使未來幾年很不樂觀... : 這是Cot's Baseball contracts的資料... : http://0rz.tw/DADP6 : 簽下轉播權後,我們今年把我們的payroll砍到137M.今年打成這樣,不用講,我們有一堆洞 : 明年想要玩的話,那一定要補洞.那如果你知道我們明年的payroll已經是131M基本的時候 : ,我想你一定會笑不出來,然後我們明年有3支要開始Arb 1,分別是Frieri,Boujos,Trumbo, : 今年的慘狀,明年肯定會想要補個投手,總不可能前三號是Weaver/CJ/Richard,然後也許 : 補支牛,最後最重要的,就是跟trout簽長約. : 這些加一加,明年破150M大概很基本吧.... : 簽下轉播權後砍payroll,這個意思我會解讀我願意花的錢有限,所以Arte會用多少錢補洞 : 我很懷疑... : Arte當然也可以不補,但結果肯定比今年更慘,就像我前面講的,你就是把Weaver/Hamilton/ : Pujols/Cj的錢丟進水裡. : 我只能講,你上了賊船,就得玩到底,如果Arte沒想清楚這點,還想"省錢"的話,那省了點小錢 : ,付出的代價會更大... : 如果在看遠一點,目前的薪資結構,就是2015 howie 約到期,2016 aybar/CJ/Weaver : 約到期.如果你去看看我們現在的農場,2B/SS/SP基本上沒什麼貨,要在那時候接上這幾支, : 基本上很難,這什麼意思呢,就是如果Arte還是想省錢,不想花錢在FA處理SP/RP的問題,然後 : 打算用交易的話,可能的結果就是會有更多的洞在那裡等著.不誇張,可能至少5年都沒有競 : 爭力. : 所以我們是有錢的球隊,該做的就是在FA花錢,而不是亂交易一通,然後要避免連續好幾年在 : FA都簽一個會浪廢選秀權的FA,不然的話,我們農場會永遠空著,每年都payroll很高,然後戰 : 績很爛. : 所以其實昨天Grant Green的交易其實是很重要的,因為我們終於有mlb ready的2B在高階 : 農場系統裡面.假如他有機會能站穩,那我們是可以試著交易Howie去換投手回來.(雖然後來 : 看到一些評論不是那麼樂觀). : 當然,花了錢可能也是沒結果,但不花錢的話,肯定會連爛好幾年,那就看Arte想不想的開了.. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 76.94.253.88

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