Re: [思辯] 集氣或詛咒
※ 引述《Oikeiosis (怎麼啦)》之銘言：
: 話說什麼集氣、詛咒什麼的
: 我是覺得不應該有太大作用的 至少不應該超過你個人自己意志的影響力
: 不過話說回來 如果個體內的意志「的確」可以影響自身身體狀態
: 那為什麼個體內的意志不能透過交流影響他人意志進而影響他人身體狀態？
: 如果個人意志跟身體健康有關連
: 則只要能影響意志的舉動都會影響身體健康 這有什麼不可思議的？
: 而且這也不是什麼不能證否的現象
: 只要去醫院裡頭調查那些都沒有人幫他們禱告集氣的病患的死亡率
: 比較其他有很多人來探病、很多人來安慰禱告集氣病患的死亡率
: 平衡掉錢啊、疾病嚴重度之類的影響 如果還有差異 就表示有禱告有差
: 怎麼是不能證否？
Cochrane Review
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/o/cochrane/clsysrev/articles/CD000368/frame.html
[Intervention Review] Intercessory prayer for the alleviation of ill health
Review content assessed as up-to-date: 13 November 2008.
Main results
Ten studies are included in this review (7646 patients). For the comparison
of intercessory prayer plus standard care versus standard care alone, overall
there was no clear effect of intercessory prayer on death (6 RCTs, n=3389,
random-effects RR 0.73 CI 0.38 to 1.38). Data are heterogeneous (I2 =85%).
Excluding one study from the meta-analysis (n=760) decreases this
heterogeneity (I2 =44%) and shifts the finding towards the null (5 RCTs,
n=2629, random RR 0.97 CI 0.63 to 1.50). For general clinical state there was
also no significant difference between groups (5 RCTs, n=2705, RR
intermediate or bad outcome 0.98 CI 0.86 to 1.11). Four studies found no
effect for re-admission to Coronary Care Unit (4 RCTs, n=2644, RR 1.00 CI
0.77 to 1.30).Two other trials found intercessory prayer had no effect on
re-hospitalisation (2 RCTs, n=1155, RR 0.93 CI 0.71 to 1.22).
Authors' conclusions
These findings are equivocal and, although some of the results of individual
studies suggest a positive effect of intercessory prayer, the majority do not
and the evidence does not support a recommendation either in favour or
against the use of intercessory prayer. We are not convinced that further
trials of this intervention should be undertaken and would prefer to see any
resources available for such a trial used to investigate other questions in
health care.
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看哪，這論證是極好的：蘇格拉底是人，凡造物都難免要朽壞，所以末了我們知道，蘇格
拉底總要落到死裡面了。從亞里士多德以來的每一個邏輯學家，沒有一個不歡喜這個論證
的。亞里士多德明白的告訴了我們論證形式的道理，因了這個緣故，我們便尊他為邏輯學
的王。
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話說...Leibovici 2001有個很有趣的實驗設計，代禱者在患者出院後才禱告。
"God not limited by linear time." XDDD
聊博一燦。
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