[情報] Insider Talks

看板Wargaming作者 (Willie)時間9年前 (2015/02/25 01:09), 9年前編輯推噓35(36143)
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http://ftr.wot-news.com/2015/02/24/insider-talks-whole-bunch-of-info/ Please note one thing: this is an info, gleaned from leaking WG internal conversations and chain letters, but the summary is insider’s representation of what the developer things. It can be wrong, but I try to doublecheck some of the info with other sources and post only the stuff that actually fits, so it should be reliable. 請注意:這些消息素材是蒐集自WG內部的討論和信件,再由該局內人揣摩開發人員的想法 。信息可能有誤,但我會拿來和其他消息來源比對,並只貼出吻合的部分,所以應該可信 - for Xbox, M6A2E1 arrives on 2.3.2015 (non HD) 大頭 M6 會在 2.3.2015 登陸XB版(非 HD 版) - for PC, M6A2E1 will not be sold again (applies to EU and NA), the intent to make its owners stay really special, armor is still planned for rebalance (historical armor) when the HD model appears 不會在電腦版重新販售大頭 M6(適用於歐服及美服),意圖讓他保有特殊性;裝甲仍預 計在 HD 化時修正回史實 - American T18 TD will be converted to artillery during the next big artillery rebalance patch. Artillery rebalance will happen at some point in the future, the one thing that could accelerate it is if the 9.6 accuracy changes prove to be really bad for arty class, otherwise it will take a very long time and has low priority. This change is the work of one of the US staff, likely The_Chieftain (SS: yup, IIRC, the proposed way is T18 – arty, replaced by T3HMC?) 預計將美國 T18 (TD) 在下次自走砲大型平衡時歸類為自走砲。自走砲平衡的時間,要 看 9.6 的準度修改有沒有重創自走砲的表現;要是沒有,平衡將會花上很長時間且優先 度低。T18 車種更動是美國人負責,很可能是 The_Chieftain(SS: 如果我沒記錯,應該 是用 T3 HMS 代替?) - Minsk is getting tired of WG EU mismanagement of regular-to-unsatisfactory quality of customer service and are already planning something for it, however details are not shared by messages. A meeting is at hand. This means a lot of stuff, as WG will have to make changes to each and every language and their PR/Customer Support systems in order to “weed out” the deficiencies. (歐服辦公室的問題,略) - NA server is considered the most “comfortable” community-wise, because “ people are not at each other’s throats” and the staff is quite reliable, however “they know” that the suggestions forum is pretty abandoned (almost hopeless to post anything there as of now) 美服社群被認為是最「友善」的,因為沒有對立問題而且員工表現可靠;但是已知論壇的 建議區是荒廢中(目前幾乎不可能在那發文) - a new chat feature that is considered is to leave messages to offline friends (only those that have you as a friend as well) 正在考慮做離線訊息功能 - WoWs will share premium resources (gold) just as WoWp and WoT 戰艦世界會跟戰機、戰車世界共用相同的金幣 - WoWs vandidates for several mid-tier premium “boats” are being prepared, including a preorder one 戰艦世界正在準備數艘中階的加值「船艦」,包括一艘預購艦 - the new WG balance policy when introducing a new tank is to first add its “ historical values”, then “overnerf the vehicle and finally strengthen it up ”, because it’s easier to manage a vehicle with mediocre stats, because it involves less whines when actually WG announces nerfs and “everybody cheers ” when they get buffed 新的新車平衡政策是先「套用史實數據」,然後「把他砍過頭再補回來」;因為處理表現 平庸的車較容易;也因為宣布下調性能造成的抱怨聲較少,再上修性能時「皆大歡喜」 - Maus won’t be buffed despite its t9 version coming out, so no 15cm gun for Maus (a developer here states that if they were to add a 15cm gun to the Maus, the “differences” with the E-100 would make the tank “a retard-on-wheels”, since “Maus should be driven for its armor, and we won’ t balance it just because it’s not used in Clan Wars”. The tank is not for “everybody to drive, but anyone can get it”. Basically, to sum it up, adding a 15cm gun to the Maus would imbalance it and would make the W-100 look like a “wimp”, because it would be the same gun with much, much more armor, despite the E-100 being “one of the most used tanks in clan warfare”. 引進小老鼠不會造成大老鼠 buff,也就是說大老鼠不會有 150 砲。(老鼠就是賣那身裝 甲,不會因為工會戰都坐冷板凳就 buff 它;它是「人人都能有,但不是人人都適合開」 的車。給老鼠裝 150 砲會太強,用一樣的砲會讓隔壁裝甲不如人的 E-100 只能去玩沙) - tier 9 Mauschen should have one more set of rebalances before being added to public test, and yes, its double threads allegedly are a pain in the ass to penetrate and these things are currently “completely immune to HEAT”, thanks to the skirts + threads + hull armor 小老鼠在公測前還會再平衡一次。他的側裙+履帶+車身裝甲極難穿透而且目前幾乎完全 對 HEAT 彈免疫。 - no plans to buff Japanese tanks despite some devs saying that they are “ mediocre at best up to tier 6〃 in every aspect. Historically speaking, it would be impossible to rebalance, given that the Japanese guns, overall labeled as “weak”, weren’t really developed during that era. However, naval cannons are another thing. Also, for some reason, despite this performance labels, the tanks seem to be faring pretty OK in their winrate and player acceptance. Tier 7 to 10 are considered okay, many players seem to like the t7 tank autoloading gun. 就算有些開發人員評價:「日本車直到六階最多只能算是平庸」,仍沒有 buff 他們的計 畫。就史實來講根本不可能平衡,因為那段時期日本沒認真研發火砲(整體來說很弱)。 但海軍又是另一回事了。而且因為其他原因,他們的勝率和接受度似乎不差。七階以上被 認為沒問題,許多玩家挺喜歡七階車那隻彈匣砲 - TD’s are scarce for the Japan tree as well, they’re looking into a gun that uses a 77mm caliber shell with no better performance than the one of the regular current guns of the branch, implementing it would mean “dragging that weapon for like 3 tiers and re-using the same gun for these tanks with different names now”, also quoting one of them saying “well, it either has a gasket-pooper or a behemoth gun” (some mounting a naval gun, one-shot wonders, almost like the SU-100Y). 日本科技樹也缺乏TD;他們用 77mm 砲,不比遊戲中現有的要好;真要實裝會變成「連續 三階都用一樣的砲,只是換個名字而已」,另一位說「不是用敲門砲,就是裝巨根」(裝 艦砲的版本,如 SU-100Y) - AMX 40 is now officially the worst tank ever, yet strangely, it has quite a number of fans, because “they like the ugly thing” and “duck” appearance, despite its gun being overly terrible for the tanks it faces. The rebalancing that will happen may increase its performance “slightly”. At some point (7.x era), the AMX-40 used to go backwards as fast as forwards. AMX 40 正式成為有史以來最爛的車;但奇怪的是,就算它的砲很爛,仍不少粉絲喜歡他 的鴨子外型。些下來的平衡會讓它的表現「稍微」改善。曾幾何時(約 7.X 版)AMX 40 倒車跟前進是一樣快的呢 - WG took notice of Japanese Anime called “Kantai Collection”, where some girls are naval ships (???), it’s possible they *may* do something with the publisher corporation, same as it happened with Girls und Panzer. WG 注意到日本動畫《艦隊蒐藏》。「可能」會有合作,跟當初和《少女與戰車》一樣 (譯者:去年9月東京電玩展上,《蒼藍鋼鐵戰艦》已經宣布跟WG合作了…能不能再整合 《艦蒐》進來呢 wwww) - Some of the WG staffmembers regret introducing the Chinese line before the European one, but they had not enough resources to assemble anything that would represent the euro line at that moment and even if they had, it would have a bunch of T-44/T-54 copies too, which would have been later scrapped by other tanks as they became available. The Chinese weere “surprisingly more active in helping us assemble the line (with a few stumbles and a lot of political suffering)”, especially when they announced their interest in opening a Chinese server (with their own rules) and the result is that the thing became a huge mess with all the payments and whatnot. However, Chinese tanks are popular there (as expected), but “it’s not something that we want to do again”. 有些員工後悔在歐洲線出現前就推出中國線,但他們當時也沒有足夠的資料建構歐洲線; 就算有,也是一堆 T-44 和 T-55 的複製車,在新的車輛資料出現後遲早會被換掉。中國 人「比想像中更積極地協助我們建立中國線(除了少數錯誤和許多政治壓力外)」,特別 是在宣布有意建立中國獨立伺服器後。雖然結果是陸服因為種種原因而一團混亂。中國線 在那邊受到歡迎,但「我們不想再搞一次。」 - on that topic, WG is unhappy to see their game being converted into full derp mode on china, but “noting we can do about it”. There, it has a very strong pay to win factor- however, it generates a lot of income for them (Type59 floods) despite having to share their earnings with a third party corp. Also, the community is nothing short of “xenophobic” and.. (on a personal note), racist (“gaijin go home” type of racism) – even a certain KongZhong developer was recorded throwing racist insults around. 承上,WG 不樂見自己的遊戲被搞成陸服的模樣,但是「完全無能為力」。在那,花錢者 勝利的狀況非常嚴重;雖然要和第三方合作伙伴分享,但仍創造了大量公司收入(滿坑滿 谷的五九式)。而且那邊的玩家不乏「仇外者」以及「種族主義者」(『蝸牛滾蛋』主義 者);甚至有看到某空中網的人員在四處散播侮辱的言論。 - BMPs and their concepts have been scrapped and shelved, there was one planned as a test, but it would have been “too high a tier” and “too weak a gun” BMP 及裝步戰車的概念已被廢棄;曾有過測試但「車弱砲也弱」 - Churchill Black Prince is gaining fame amongst some of the staff that plays and players too, apparently the tank is “comfortable” to drive and reliable, despite the slow speed and rather weak caliber gun, it makes it up for the superb accuracy and reload along with good armor layout 黑王子在部分有玩它的開發人員以及一般玩家間建立起地位,因為這台車好開而且可靠。 雖然速度慢而且口徑稍小,但極佳的準度、裝填時間以及好裝甲能彌補缺點。 - AT-15A is a little more popular/better winrate now that it has limited MM and increased earnings “within the expected results”, meaning the tank won’ t be seeing any more buffs or changes until the end of time AT-15A 因為有了分房保護和增加收入,其普及度及勝率都有提升「符合預期」,意思是 未來不會進一步更動這台車。 - no Löwe buffs planned 沒計畫 buff 獅式 - WG will track AMX CDC’S performance in the following patches and see if the tank manages too poorly having a full MM and overall worse performance than the FCM 50t. If there’s going to be a buff, it will be slight, however the MM spread will remain unchanged 會追蹤 CDC 的表現,看看整體上是否比 50t 要差。若要 buff 也只會稍微更動,不會動 分房 - if you want a solid performer, buy FCM 50t and not AMX CDC, as they are certainly planning to remove it from the store 如果想買台可靠的車,選 50t,不要買 CDC;他們肯定在計畫將 50t 下架 - M56 Scorpion coming to stores “soon”, it’ll have full MM as well M56 蠍式將會「很快」上架,也沒有分房保護 - IS-6 won’t be removed from the store in quite a bit of time, as it’s the most purchased currently (SS: of tier 8 premiums? Unclear here) IS-6 短期內不會下架,因為他是目前賣的最好的(SS: 不確定是不是算八階金車而已) - camo factor is still planned for rebalance, but first, WG will gather data on the TD nerf, as it’s the class that mostly “benefits from it” – meaning that they tend to camp more than any other tank, despite having the bonuses removed, since “it’s within their nature” 仍計畫要將隱蔽係數重新平衡;但首先要蒐集 TD 被砍之後的數據,因為 TD 是受其影響 最深的車:他們比其他車種更蹲,因為「本該如此」,算拿掉了車種隱蔽加成也一樣。 - IM involving setting certain amount of tanks on fire may get changed to be more RNG friendly 要把對方車打到起火的個人任務可能被修改,讓機率問題沒這麼嚴重 -- In church, they say to forgive! Forgiveness is between them and God; it's my job to arrange the meeting. 《 Man on Fire 》 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 36.235.218.192 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/WoT/M.1424797776.A.56D.html

02/25 01:22, , 1F
調整強度那邊讓我想起了朝三暮四的狙公 媽的是把所
02/25 01:22, 1F

02/25 01:22, , 2F
有玩家都當猴子嗎??
02/25 01:22, 2F

02/25 01:26, , 3F
想到朝三暮四+1...
02/25 01:26, 3F

02/25 01:26, , 4F
TD被砍而受惠?
02/25 01:26, 4F
已更改

02/25 02:07, , 5F
你不得不承認大部份玩家是猴子,心智上和技術上
02/25 02:07, 5F

02/25 02:35, , 6F
推翻譯
02/25 02:35, 6F

02/25 02:43, , 7F
蒼藍鋼鐵戰艦@@?
02/25 02:43, 7F

02/25 02:46, , 8F
蒼鋼 前年的秋番 漫畫還蠻好看的 lol
02/25 02:46, 8F

02/25 04:00, , 9F
平衡已經比蝸牛好很多了 至少WG沒那麼自爽到不要臉
02/25 04:00, 9F

02/25 04:13, , 10F
WT的野馬、海盜真的慘到不像話
02/25 04:13, 10F

02/25 04:13, , 11F
P-47會爬輸拉格也完全不能理解
02/25 04:13, 11F
飛紅茶線的表示新的對空彈練不錯用

02/25 04:32, , 12F
你可以去玩玩陸戰 同樣傷到彈藥架德車是直接爆炸
02/25 04:32, 12F

02/25 04:33, , 13F
美蘇車還可以直接反殺你
02/25 04:33, 13F

02/25 04:45, , 14F
蒼鋼跟艦娘合作過 所以蒼鋼x艦娘xWOWS搞3P應該可行?
02/25 04:45, 14F

02/25 06:02, , 15F
我要能夠泡水的眼車拉
02/25 06:02, 15F
地圖上有地方給你游泳?XDD

02/25 06:26, , 16F
老鼠跑的這麼慢 裝了150炮後最好E-100會去玩沙~~~
02/25 06:26, 16F

02/25 06:31, , 17F
車體這麼重 裝個170炮應該沒問題 逃~~~~~~
02/25 06:31, 17F

02/25 07:03, , 18F
9.6沒有重創自走砲的表現~~~~
02/25 07:03, 18F

02/25 07:06, , 19F
可是wows沒有潛艇阿 沒有401...
02/25 07:06, 19F

02/25 07:06, , 20F
WG要搞BMP.裝步戰車? 不如先把二戰的半履帶車做出來
02/25 07:06, 20F

02/25 07:07, , 21F
有些還裝有75mm戰車砲~~~~
02/25 07:07, 21F
搞出來要幹嘛?WoT 的戰場上有他們的地位?

02/25 07:31, , 22F
鴨子好車
02/25 07:31, 22F

02/25 08:42, , 23F
鴨子AMX40 前進和後退的速度一樣 How terrible
02/25 08:42, 23F

02/25 08:42, , 24F
你有試過大鴨鴨B1嗎?
02/25 08:42, 24F

02/25 08:57, , 25F
小老鼠會在哪一條科技線上?
02/25 08:57, 25F
在老鼠前面

02/25 09:00, , 26F
WT的美國飛機實在是 ...... 明明是最強的
02/25 09:00, 26F

02/25 09:00, , 27F
結果在遊戲內 ...... 555+
02/25 09:00, 27F

02/25 09:01, , 28F
還有陸戰平衡太糟糕了,往上遇到+1.0 +1.3的車
02/25 09:01, 28F

02/25 09:02, , 29F
根本不用打
02/25 09:02, 29F

02/25 09:03, , 30F
先怒噓 讓VN併進來 跟把亞服用的跟陸服一樣亂有差嗎
02/25 09:03, 30F
去逛逛陸服的禮品店,再看看陸服掛機/bot的狀況吧;就我聽說是會讓人想砸鍵盤的

02/25 09:54, , 31F
不過昨天有好幾場遇到超強的越南人,讓我整個對他們
02/25 09:54, 31F

02/25 09:54, , 32F
開始改觀,但是大部分他們還是.....KER KER
02/25 09:54, 32F

02/25 09:57, , 33F
強的越南人不少 但是他們帶來的掛機更多...
02/25 09:57, 33F

02/25 10:56, , 34F
拜託提高砲車經驗值好嗎?有夠難賺經驗
02/25 10:56, 34F

02/25 11:49, , 35F
WOWS沒SS與其說SS太IMBA 不如說工程太浩大嫌麻煩?
02/25 11:49, 35F

02/25 11:55, , 36F
TD翻譯那邊我的理解是,TD是最受惠於隱蔽的車種
02/25 11:55, 36F

02/25 11:56, , 37F
"benefits from it"的it我認為是指camo, 而非指nerf
02/25 11:56, 37F

02/25 11:58, , 38F
所以意思是TD本來就是龜車很吃隱蔽,所以要重新平衡
02/25 11:58, 38F
同意。感謝指正!

02/25 12:03, , 39F
可能以後吧 潛艦....他們以前也常說什麼什麼不做
02/25 12:03, 39F

02/25 12:17, , 40F
SS的問題 SS玩家會很無聊
02/25 12:17, 40F

02/25 12:18, , 41F
潛水狀態你只有不到10kts的速度 要幹嘛?
02/25 12:18, 41F

02/25 12:19, , 42F
浮上來砲靶 潛下去驅逐炸你你還躲不掉(你太慢了)
02/25 12:19, 42F

02/25 12:22, , 43F
SS在WOWS裡頭下場大概不是躲整場就是被抓出來輪姦
02/25 12:22, 43F

02/25 12:29, , 44F
戰艦世界跟蒼藍鋼鐵合作真的是有點怪怪的....
02/25 12:29, 44F

02/25 12:30, , 45F
主角是潛艦但遊戲中沒有潛艦,跟艦娘合作感覺就頗搭
02/25 12:30, 45F

02/25 12:33, , 46F
只希望DMM可以把美軍艦隊(棲姬?)的艦娘做出來。
02/25 12:33, 46F
November☆ pixiv id=1979063 先用他的頂著吧 wwwww

02/25 12:35, , 47F
話說怎麼一堆人在希望Buff Lowe?
02/25 12:35, 47F

02/25 12:59, , 48F
合作沒有說一定要在遊戲裡面出現啊... 最近這陣子WG
02/25 12:59, 48F

02/25 12:59, , 49F
辦活動常常就會送跟蒼鋼合作的T-shirt啊
02/25 12:59, 49F

02/25 13:08, , 50F
準度更動有重創SPG的表現嗎?你們就看下去吧ㄏㄏ
02/25 13:08, 50F

02/25 13:39, , 51F
史實SS都打伏擊要出現在遊戲很難
02/25 13:39, 51F

02/25 13:50, , 52F
SS太弱了而且絕對難以做到還原與遊戲的平衡
02/25 13:50, 52F

02/25 13:51, , 53F
二戰艦艇型船體潛艇的水上速度大多在20節左右 水下
02/25 13:51, 53F

02/25 13:52, , 54F
極速幾乎沒有超過10節的 艦體耐衝擊能力也遠不如DD
02/25 13:52, 54F

02/25 13:53, , 55F
但是你不會想看到它們被還原史實的水下能力 為那代
02/25 13:53, 55F

02/25 13:54, , 56F
表它們最起碼可以潛個6~8小時以上 如果維持水下巡航
02/25 13:54, 56F

02/25 13:55, , 57F
速度 它們甚至可以潛行20小時 這會造成它Unplayable
02/25 13:55, 57F

02/25 13:57, , 58F
應該說讓其他大船unplayable
02/25 13:57, 58F

02/25 13:58, , 59F
這是一定要修改 但是不能把潛航時間改太短 那會造成
02/25 13:58, 59F

02/25 13:58, , 60F
所有人都在附近繞來繞去等你起來一發給你死
02/25 13:58, 60F

02/25 14:00, , 61F
如果用聲納搜索的方式 那代表你要在水下建立另外一
02/25 14:00, 61F

02/25 14:01, , 62F
套偵查機制、為潛艦描繪海底地圖造成地圖大小加倍、
02/25 14:01, 62F

02/25 14:01, , 63F
再多給一些船反潛武裝 而這顯然只會讓玩家覺得很煩
02/25 14:01, 63F

02/25 14:02, , 64F
並且多靠北伺服器幾次 那行為就像WOT裡面的地圖資料
02/25 14:02, 64F

02/25 14:03, , 65F
包含地底下的地洞一樣糟糕
02/25 14:03, 65F
※ 編輯: WillieHuang (111.246.207.16), 02/25/2015 15:12:19

02/25 15:36, , 66F
會看到砲車走地下到對方基地偷偷從後面射爛TD嗎!?
02/25 15:36, 66F

02/25 16:12, , 67F
如果沒有潛水戰艦或潛水巡洋艦的話
02/25 16:12, 67F

02/25 16:12, , 68F
大概也沒有掘地自走砲...吧?
02/25 16:12, 68F

02/25 16:17, , 69F
日本有潛水航母啊XD 艦載機只有三架晴嵐
02/25 16:17, 69F

02/25 16:23, , 70F
可能挖一次要14分鐘(?
02/25 16:23, 70F

02/25 16:23, , 71F
潛特型分類上是潛水空母 但是本質上差太多了
02/25 16:23, 71F

02/25 16:27, , 72F
3架晴嵐差不多算是巡洋艦的載量而已 3架全部發進耗
02/25 16:27, 72F

02/25 16:27, , 73F
時約15分鐘 回收3架晴嵐要30分鐘 不過這也不是潛特
02/25 16:27, 73F

02/25 16:28, , 74F
型的重點 潛特型最大的特色在「理論上可以對全球任
02/25 16:28, 74F

02/25 16:28, , 75F
何地點進行攻擊並且反航」
02/25 16:28, 75F

02/25 16:35, , 76F
T18殺手要退休嚕 \0.0/
02/25 16:35, 76F

02/25 17:57, , 77F
潛特型那種酬載量…要發揮明顯效果,必須搭配 WMD
02/25 17:57, 77F

02/25 17:58, , 78F
如果是紺碧艦隊中的黑科技那就定當別論
02/25 17:58, 78F

02/25 18:02, , 79F
戰史版有專業吐槽 wwwww
02/25 18:02, 79F

02/26 10:39, , 80F
想想navy field的SS吧…
02/26 10:39, 80F
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