Fw: [外絮] 年度最佳新秀ROY候選人名單

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※ [本文轉錄自 NBA 看板 #1JGh5-mL ] 作者: Tendywang (..) 看板: NBA 標題: [外絮] 年度最佳新秀ROY數據統計 時間: Mon Apr 7 22:08:57 2014 原文網址: http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2014/04/04/rookie-of-the-year-by-the-numbers/ 圖文部落格(附詳細表格): http://leelou.pixnet.net/blog/post/32169794 Kia Rookie of the Year voting should be pretty simple this season. There are only nine rookies who have averaged at least 20 minutes per game for 50 games or more. And none of those have done it for a team with a winning record. Winning records don’t matter much in Rookie of the Year voting. None of the last 10 winners played for teams with winning records. So there probably won’ t be anything stopping the media from voting for Michael Carter-Williams (of the 16-59 Sixers) or Victor Oladipo (of the 21-54 Magic). Carter-Williams appears to be the clear favorite. He leads all rookies in points, rebounds, assists and steals per game. That doesn’t mean that he’s the best player among all rookies. He’s just had the biggest opportunity, playing for a team that stripped its roster bare over the course of the last 10 months. 本季的年度最佳新秀應該非常容易預測,一共只有9名新人平均出賽時間超過20分鐘,出 賽場次超過50場,而且沒有任何菜鳥的球隊勝率過半。不過勝率過半這件事對年度最佳新 秀的票選來說並不重要,過去十年拿到這個獎項的球員,沒有人的球隊達到五成勝率,所 以可能沒有任何事情可以阻止媒體把票投給Michael Carter-Williams(76人戰績16勝59負 )或是Victor Oladipo(魔術戰績21勝54負)。而Carter-Williams看起來明顯比較有勝算, 他在平均得分、籃板、助攻和抄截都領先其他的新秀。但這不表示他是全部當中最優秀的 新鮮人,他只是獲得最多的上場機會來表現自己而已,尤其是他效力的球隊在過去10個月 以來,把場上每個位置的球員都丟光光了。 Carter-Williams has been the only rookie to start every game he’s played in, and his back-up — Tony Wroten — was never a threat to take any of his minutes, especially since developing the rookie has been priority No. 1 in Philadelphia this season. Even if winning games was a priority, Wroten isn’t good enough to take minutes away from MCW. Not only has Carter-Williams led rookies in minutes per game and usage rate, but the Sixers have played at the *fastest pace in the league. So, when it comes to racking up per-game numbers, he’s had a three-tier advantage over other rookies. * The fourth fastest pace of the last 20 years, actually. We can adjust for all that, though. NBA.com’s PIE statistic takes a player’ s numbers (with weights added to each) as a percentage of the overall numbers that were accumulated while he was on the floor. And only one rookie ranks higher than Carter-Williams in terms of PIE… Carter-Williams是唯一一位每次出賽都先發的菜鳥,他的替補— Tony Wroten —從來沒 有辦法對他的上場時間造成威脅,特別是費城本季最重要的任務就是培養新人。就算是把 贏球放在第一順位,Wroten也沒有好到能夠搶走MCW的時間。Carter-Williams不只是在出 賽時間和使用率領先其他新秀,76人同時也是聯盟中節奏最快的球隊(註),因此當我們計 算每場平均數據時,他佔盡了所有優勢。然而我們可以做些調整,NBA.com的PIE統計把球 員的數據(加權計算後)和他上場時的數據累積總和做百分比計算,這麼一來只有一位新人 能在PIE的表現上贏過Carter-Williams。 註:實際上,本季的76人是過去20年來節奏第4快的球隊。 Player GP MIN eFG% TS% Usg% PIE Mason Plumlee 62 1,079 63.2% 65.3% 16.9% 10.5% Michael Carter-Williams 63 2,181 42.2% 46.9% 26.0% 9.8% Nick Calathes 64 1,069 49.5% 51.0% 17.9% 9.8% Victor Oladipo 73 2,325 45.3% 51.2% 24.0% 9.6% Nate Wolters 58 1,310 46.0% 48.6% 16.7% 9.3% Cody Zeller 75 1,266 41.9% 49.1% 18.2% 8.7% Trey Burke 63 1,995 44.2% 47.2% 22.1% 8.1% Kelly Olynyk 63 1,215 48.6% 52.8% 20.0% 8.0% Ryan Kelly 52 1,103 51.2% 57.3% 15.4% 7.8% Giannis Antetokounmpo 70 1,705 46.9% 52.5% 15.3% 7.6% Matthew Dellavedova 66 1,132 50.8% 53.7% 13.3% 7.5% Tim Hardaway Jr. 75 1,732 52.9% 55.8% 19.1% 7.4% Hollis Thompson 70 1,559 54.5% 56.7% 11.4% 6.0% Tony Snell 70 1,178 47.0% 48.9% 15.0% 5.8% Steven Adams 74 1,102 49.7% 53.6% 11.7% 5.2% Kentavious Caldwell-Pope 73 1,446 45.9% 48.3% 13.6% 5.0% Ben McLemore 75 1,934 44.4% 47.9% 16.7% 3.9% By the way, this certainly isn’t the best rookie class in recent memory, but it might have the longest names. 順道一提,本季的菜鳥確實不是近年來最好的一批,但他們可能是名字最長的一群。 So Mason Plumlee has made more of his minutes than Carter-Williams has, and has also done it for a playoff team. But MCW has played twice as many minutes. And if you’re voting for Rookie of the Year, it’s hard to argue against that. Carter-Williams has also made the Sixers a better team. They’ve been outscored by 15.2 points per 100 possessions with him on the bench, but by only 8.9 with him on the floor. That minus-8.9 NetRtg would still rank 29th in the league (ahead of only the Bucks), but it’s a heck of a lot better than minus-15.2. Of the 17 rookies who have played at least 1,000 minutes, only three have a positive plus-minus. They are Steven Adams (plus-52), Matthew Dellavedova (plus-46) and Nick Calathes (plus-9). And Adams’ team has been much better with him off the floor. Several more rookies can say they’ve made a positive impact… Mason Plumlee在場上的效率比Carter-Williams還要好,而且還身處在一支季後賽球隊當 中,但是MCW的出賽時間超過兩倍之多,當你要選擇年度最佳新秀時,你很難去質疑這點 。Carter-Williams同時也讓76人變得更好,他不在場上時球隊每100回合會輸15.2分,當 他上場後就只輸8.9分而已。-8.9分的NetRtg在聯盟中還是只能排在第29名(只贏過公鹿) ,不過這比那爛透了的-15.2分還要好多了。在17位上場至少1000分鐘的新秀裡,只有3位 球員的正負值大於零,分別是Steven Adams(+52)、Matthew Dellavedova(+46)和Nick Calathes(+9),但是Adams的球隊在他休息時表現會更好。下面的表格中還有許多新秀對球 隊有正面的貢獻…(見上述網址) It helps to know who those guys are playing their minutes with, but among Sixer rotation regulars, only Evan Turner had a higher on-court NetRtg than Carter-Williams. So while it’s important to add context to Carter-Williams per-game numbers, the context doesn’t hurt his Rookie of the Year candidacy very much. 若是將這些傢伙都和誰一起上場打球考慮進來,會得到比較正確的判斷,但是76人的輪替 名單中只有Evan Turner上場時的NetRtg比Carter-Williams還要好。因此就算 Carter-Williams的平均數據有其他因素的美化效果,仍然無法損及其年度最佳新秀的首 位候選資格。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 61.230.54.198 ※ 文章網址: http://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1396879742.A.C15.html ※ 編輯: Tendywang (61.230.54.198), 04/07/2014 22:10:06

04/07 22:11, , 1F
anthony bennett: 故意忽略我幹嘛
04/07 22:11, 1F

04/07 22:11, , 2F
Mason Plumlee同時受到老基跟KG的教導~~拿下新人王
04/07 22:11, 2F

04/07 22:11, , 3F
Tim Hardaway 不是熱門喔,我看他一直都打的很好
04/07 22:11, 3F

04/07 22:12, , 4F
並不是太意外的是~~
04/07 22:12, 4F

04/07 22:12, , 5F
所謂名師出高徒~~當年老基也是最佳新人王~~
04/07 22:12, 5F

04/07 22:12, , 6F
Mason Plumlee接下老基的棒子也不失為美談~~
04/07 22:12, 6F

04/07 22:12, , 7F
MCW中間還有休息一陣子 出賽時間真的很長@@
04/07 22:12, 7F

04/07 22:13, , 8F
還有Burke也是
04/07 22:13, 8F

04/07 22:14, , 9F
突然覺得John Wall可以拿新人王了
04/07 22:14, 9F

04/07 22:22, , 10F
最弱的一年
04/07 22:22, 10F

04/07 22:24, , 11F
MCW穩拿的 毫無疑問
04/07 22:24, 11F

04/07 22:40, , 12F
YK洗洗吧 大腸迷
04/07 22:40, 12F

04/07 22:49, , 13F
私心我會投Mason Plumlee 打得真的很好
04/07 22:49, 13F

04/07 22:49, , 14F
>MCW
04/07 22:49, 14F

04/07 23:01, , 15F
名字最長的一群
04/07 23:01, 15F

04/07 23:15, , 16F
純噓yk不要臉,什麼都要扯上kidd,看了就討厭
04/07 23:15, 16F

04/07 23:16, , 17F
我推Oladipo
04/07 23:16, 17F

04/07 23:21, , 18F
借轉~感謝
04/07 23:21, 18F
※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ※ 轉錄者: stevenlovego (223.143.77.160), 04/07/2014 23:21:29

04/07 23:24, , 19F
個人覺得今年新秀都沒有很優~
04/07 23:24, 19F

04/08 00:52, , 20F
TB感覺比MCW強 不過要是我投會投給Oladipo=小西河?
04/08 00:52, 20F

04/08 09:58, , 21F
MCW準頭比TB還差,不及格中的不及格。
04/08 09:58, 21F

04/08 16:03, , 22F
並非長他人志氣 個人覺得MCW的天空比TB還高
04/08 16:03, 22F

04/08 16:04, , 23F
投籃命中率的部份 等到多幾個好隊友再來評斷比較客觀點
04/08 16:04, 23F

04/08 16:05, , 24F
就像黑娃在別隊我相信也不會這麼鐵
04/08 16:05, 24F

04/08 20:23, , 25F
TB的防守大概只能接近average 他主要能提升的是命中率
04/08 20:23, 25F

04/08 22:35, , 26F
每個位置都丟光光xdddd
04/08 22:35, 26F

04/08 23:03, , 27F
一堆爵子爵孫進季後賽
04/08 23:03, 27F

04/09 09:02, , 28F
帝寶可惜了.一度聲勢有直逼MCW的,但明星賽後就掉了~
04/09 09:02, 28F

04/09 09:16, , 29F
山貓老鷹都進季後賽了 反觀JIZZ去年
04/09 09:16, 29F

04/09 09:47, , 30F
TB
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04/09 10:14, , 31F
山貓老鷹公牛籃網舊爵表示:東區超爽der~~~~~~
04/09 10:14, 31F
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