[新聞] 同酬議題延燒,穆雷推特網戰Stakhovsky

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Andy Murray takes on Sergiu Stakhovsky in Twitter row equal pay controversy 同酬議題延燒,穆雷推特網戰Stakhovsky 原文http://tinyurl.com/hrhxwuz Andy Murray took the row on equal pay in tennis on to Twitter as he traded blows with the Ukrainian Sergiy Stakhovsky. 網壇同酬議題延燒,穆雷推特網戰烏克蘭選手Stakhovsky Stakhovsky is a longstanding and vocal critic of equal prize money for women. The topic has dominated headlines over the past few days following comments from the former Indian Wells tournament director Raymond Moore. Moore stepped down on Tuesday amid uproar over his comments. Stakhovsky長期對女網同酬議題持反對立場以及Moore事件云云 Murray said Moore’s comments “made no sense at all” and also took on Novak Djokovic, who fanned the flames in Indian Wells by saying the ATP should push for more money because men’s matches are more popular. The Briton responded with a pointed dig at Stakhovsky, the player he beat in the US Open junior final in 2004, saying a lot more people would watch a match at Wimbledon involving Laura Robson than the Ukrainian. 穆雷對於Moore的論調斥為無稽,也不認同喬柯維奇將獎金訴諸票房的看法。為了反擊球 王,穆雷反將矛頭對準其2004年美網青少年單打決賽的手下敗將Stakhovsky,藉以舉例說 :大多數球迷在溫布頓會選擇觀賞地主女網好手Laura Robson的比賽,而非男網的 Stakhovsky。 In a lengthy exchange on Twitter, Stakhovsky said to Murray: “Thanks for mentioning me today. Need some attention. Although your argument fails the moment we leave UK territory.” 此舉引發兩人在推特的系列網戰,Stakhovsky:「謝謝你(穆雷)今天提到我,是需要點 關注了。然而你的論調只在英國本土成立。」 Murray hit back: “As soon as we leave UK territory more people are watching you than Laura? Really?” 穆雷反擊:「一離開英國大家就會改看你的比賽而不是Laura?你確定?」 Stakhovsky, ranked No114 in the world, replied: “The venue in Kiev is ready. All you need to do is convince Laura to come.” Stakhovsky(男網世界排名114)回答:「當然,基輔(烏克蘭首都)已經準備好了,你 只需要說服Laura過來。」 Murray then brought up a match between the two in Davis Cup in 2006, which he won 6-3, 6-2, 7-5 to clinch the tie for Britain. The Scot said: “I played you in a Davis Cup match in Ukraine and there must have been a thousand people there max!” 穆雷遂重提兩人2006在戴維斯杯交手的舊事(當時穆雷直落三勝出):「我之前在烏克蘭 戴維斯杯跟你打過,我看現場最多也才一千人。」 Stakhovsky responded by questioning how many empty seats there were, to which Murray said: “How many empty seats were there Serge? I wasn’t counting was focused on the getting the W [win].” Stakhovsky反擊穆雷問道:「那你說現場有幾個空位?」 穆雷說:「我哪知道現場空位有幾個,我才沒心思算,我專注在打敗你。」 Murray will begin his campaign in Miami on Saturday against either Borna Coric or Denis Istomin. (略) -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 117.56.55.75 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Tennis/M.1458820914.A.D53.html

03/24 20:05, , 1F
我只能說Murray舉了錯誤的例子
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03/24 20:05, , 2F
現在變成要戰排名了
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03/24 20:15, , 3F
如果以票房來分紅的話,盧彥勳的獎金會少很多....
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03/24 20:16, , 4F
Sorry, 應該要看對手是誰,如果是Federer應該還是不錯
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03/24 20:24, , 5F
Murray真的沒必要牽扯別的選手進來 只會模糊焦點
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03/24 20:24, , 6F
就說不小心隨口舉個例子就好了 現在停不下來了
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03/24 20:30, , 7F
前陣子Murry發言都挺中聽的 但這次扯到別的選手真沒必要
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03/24 20:35, , 8F
人家Djo都跟Billie Jean King/Evert大和解了 Murray卻還在
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03/24 20:36, , 9F
twitter跟人家戰 完全不知他在幹嘛
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03/24 21:12, , 10F
小安迪扯別的選手就算了 還跟人家在twitter戰....
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03/24 21:14, , 11F
真的挺好笑的,躺著也中槍
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03/24 21:15, , 12F
http://0rz.tw/fZFw8 Dj昨天記者會再度重申他沒有要挑起
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03/24 21:16, , 13F
男女平等議題 他有傳訊息和幾個球員解釋了 也和Billie Jean
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03/24 21:17, , 14F
King/Chris Evert面談 這件事應該算到一個段落了吧
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03/24 21:24, , 15F
小安迪很有事
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03/24 21:36, , 16F
Stakhovsky也經常發表爭議言論
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03/24 21:43, , 17F
Mur到底是隨口舉例害Stakhovsky中槍,還是其實他們倆早
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03/24 21:44, , 18F
就有過節了?
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03/24 21:57, , 19F
無聊透頂的討論 選手別口水了
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03/24 21:59, , 20F
XDDDDD 真可愛
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03/24 22:00, , 21F
戰其他選手真的超扯,要不要扣他一個歧視低排名選手的帽子啊
03/24 22:00, 21F

03/24 22:02, , 22F
就算對方平常就不是什麼好咖,小安迪這樣做根本就是超級無聊
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03/24 22:02, , 23F
又失水準,搞不清楚狀況,歧視低排名跟歧視女性一樣爛,2013
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03/24 22:02, , 24F
自己還說女網要打五盤,瞎
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03/24 22:03, , 25F
鄉民都可以戰成這樣了 選手戰也不意外阿
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03/24 22:04, , 26F
XDDDDDDDDDDD
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03/24 22:20, , 27F
前幾天30歲,今天三歲
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03/24 22:51, , 28F
這行為....
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03/24 23:00, , 29F
別的不說 莫瑞的論點其實滿薄弱的
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03/24 23:02, , 30F
然後DJO的態度到底是什麼? 發現這議題燒起來反而縮回去?
03/24 23:02, 30F

03/24 23:19, , 31F
Djo已經發過文也開過記者為澄清自己的原意了 沒必要跟著
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03/24 23:20, , 32F
記者繼續吵下去了吧
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03/25 00:36, , 33F
小安迪戰他是有原因的,去年12月報導他不贊成同獎金
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03/25 00:48, , 35F
其實票房的話本來就這樣 128籤 跟 決賽 獎金也差很多!
03/25 00:48, 35F

03/25 00:49, , 36F
大滿貫賽每晉級一輪獎金差多少
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03/25 00:59, , 37F
XD
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03/25 01:17, , 38F
男女不同工,票房也不同 本就不應同酬 但吵這個政治不
03/25 01:17, 38F

03/25 01:17, , 39F
不正確 會被批
03/25 01:17, 39F
還有 67 則推文
03/25 15:02, , 107F
我沒有說不做是性別歧視,我只有說做了是推動性別平權
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03/25 15:03, , 108F
而且其他比賽如果只辦男子,那根本不會跟WTA有接觸吧
03/25 15:03, 108F

03/25 15:05, , 109F
但你男女比賽都辦,那就兩邊都要接觸,就看你接不接受
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03/25 15:05, , 110F
WTA的要求囉~
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03/25 15:07, , 111F
就像婦女/原住民保障名額,如果去掉社會歷史脈胳來看
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03/25 15:09, , 112F
也會覺得不公平;但事實上就不應該去脈胳地來看。
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03/25 15:10, , 113F
小安迪這次太過了,沒必要這樣,太針對個人,沒必要拉
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03/25 15:11, , 114F
其他球員下水,很沒風度
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03/25 15:26, , 115F
小安迪是跟他有過節嗎@@?
03/25 15:26, 115F

03/25 15:37, , 116F
看前篇新聞,其他男選手也只敢說男女平等,還不是迴避獎
03/25 15:37, 116F

03/25 15:38, , 117F
金平等問題zzz敢講心裡話的有幾個?
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03/25 15:39, , 118F
Laura Robson也倒楣,兩個大男人吵架,還被拖出來講....
03/25 15:39, 118F

03/25 15:41, , 119F
她氣起來會不會也加入大亂鬥的行列中.....
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03/25 16:24, , 120F
別扯什麼保障名額了 現在女子從事職業運動也沒什麼社會阻力
03/25 16:24, 120F

03/25 16:25, , 121F
事實就是男女方分開辦同等級的賽事 男生賽事收入絕對比較多
03/25 16:25, 121F

03/25 16:26, , 122F
主辦方也是從收入中撥出獎金的 現在一起辦獎金卻一樣 誰沾
03/25 16:26, 122F

03/25 16:27, , 123F
誰的光很明顯了
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03/25 16:42, , 124F
只是在想為什麼只有職業網球有這個問題,WNBA應該也不會去想
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03/25 16:43, , 125F
要跟NBA薪資看齊吧,還是球隊和個人性質不同??
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03/25 16:46, , 126F
現在男女從小被鼓勵參與競技性運動的程度絕對有差
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03/25 16:52, , 127F
不管是參與運動的機會、社會期待等很多面向都有差
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03/25 17:08, , 128F
和莎娃的新聞一樣 每一篇一樣的東西都要吵一次...
03/25 17:08, 128F

03/25 17:08, , 129F
又不會有交集
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03/25 17:58, , 130F
很簡單,女網現在男觀眾還看得下去,女籃就真的沒辦法XD
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03/25 18:10, , 131F
網球跟籃球很大的不同是你可以混在一起穿插舉辦,所
03/25 18:10, 131F

03/25 18:11, , 132F
以有些只看男網的人反正票都買了就順便看女網,但很
03/25 18:11, 132F

03/25 18:11, , 133F
多根本也就看完中央場跑去外面看其他的男子比賽,女
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03/25 18:13, , 134F
子比賽則空空。籃球要混在一起穿插辦,那主客場整個
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03/25 18:14, , 135F
賽程卡死。而且女網現在最大的財產就是順便看漂亮的
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03/25 18:14, , 136F
女生打球,連 WTA 自己在捧人時都有選擇性,不然就
03/25 18:14, 136F

03/25 18:15, , 137F
用票房決定獎金為何會逼死低排名???完全不懂...
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03/25 18:15, , 138F
是幫長的不優的選手 P,女籃是要怎麼 P,移除肌肉?
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03/25 19:39, , 139F
月經爭論文,怎麼吵就那樣
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03/25 21:09, , 140F
其實不管是男女,現在的獎金就已經是逼死低排名選手了
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03/25 21:19, , 141F
純噓Murray指名道姓攻擊
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03/26 01:09, , 142F
哈哈哈小安迪若有ptt帳號,不知他會有什麼樣的發言XD
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03/26 18:53, , 143F
北七 明明站在道德好位置卻自己去打爛仗
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03/26 23:36, , 144F
Murray有夠中二
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03/28 10:58, , 145F
Murray真的蠻瞎的...
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03/28 12:34, , 146F
Murray你還好嗎...
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