[新聞] 老金的花英退團聲明稿

看板T-ara作者 (嗚啦啦)時間11年前 (2012/07/30 14:37), 編輯推噓71(74397)
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As T-ara lives their lives together, I feel that if someone places her/himself above the rest and rocks the boat, the overall stability of the team falters. 有鑑於梯妞們共同分享彼此的生活,我覺得如果有誰把自己看得比其他人更重要, 這個團隊的穩定性會衰退的. I wish to emphasize the fact that the ‘bullying’ reports surrounding T-ara have no basis in truth. 首先我強調梯妞所有關於"霸凌"的報導,都是沒有事實根據的 Early after their debut, T-ara went through many reports of several members being bullied (such as Eunjung, Soyeon, or Boram) but that was simply childish jealousy which did not pass two days, and they soon grew closer together. 在她們出道早期,梯妞們就經歷過許多關於成員被霸凌的報導(像是恩靜,素妍,寶藍) 但都只是些幼稚的玩笑且都持續不久,他們彼此也快速地變得更親密. During the recent concert, a total of 230 staff members moved together. The difference in ‘determination’ that the T-ara members have talked about did not mean whether or not the members could stand on stage. 最近的演唱會行程,總共230位員工必須一起行動. 而梯妞們提到的"決心"上的不同, 並不是成員們有沒有登上舞台表演的意思. If someone becomes lazy, or self-centered, and thinks only of oneself, that performance has no reprieve but to suffer flaws, and that kind of stage shines only on the outside. On the inside exists only a shallow longing to ‘ show’ something. That is what ‘determination’ means – determination for the stars and the staff members alike. 如果有人變的懶散,或是自我中心,只想到自己的話,舞台表現就會無法掩飾的出現一 些缺陷,這樣的表演即使耀眼,也只是表面看起來如此. 表演的意義就變得膚淺的只是 為了"表現". 這才是"決心"之所謂,不論是以一個藝人或是工作人員的角度來看都是 如此. The most important thing for the staff members and the artists is their health. Only if their body is healthy can they put on a good performance. 不論是工作人員還是歌手,身體健康都是最重要的. 只有身體健康,才能有好的演出. Eunjung tore her ligament when she fell on an icy road, and Jiyeon injured her leg during drama filming. She also broke her nose during the Osaka concert when she bumped into a lighting tower, requesting emergency surgery and took the stage afterwards, notwithstanding disagreements with the concert and company managers. She went through full treatment, lasting three days, after her return to Korea. 恩靜在冰上滑倒造成韌帶撕裂,智妍在戲劇拍攝中也造成腿部受傷. 在大阪場的巡演中 因為撞到照明塔傷了鼻子,馬上進行了緊急手術並在後來回到舞台, 即使經紀人和工作 人員有異議. 他在回到韓國之後接受了完整的治療. Hwayoung’s leg injury and her subsequent absence for the concert was for the protection of the star. Although she wanted to stand on stage, all the staff and T-ara members argued against her and she eventually took the stage only for her “Day by Day” performance, as per her wishes. 花英的腿傷以及之後演唱會的缺席是出自對於藝人的保護而採取的措施. 他希望能夠 站在舞台上,即使所有的員工和其餘的梯妞成員都反對,但花英最後還是依照他部份的期望 出席了DBD的舞台. Therefore, the ‘determination’ that T-ara was talking about was not about standing on stage or otherwise. 因此,梯妞們談論的"決心"和有沒有站上舞台是沒有關係的. Despite poor salary, countless staff members and managers are working hard behind the stars. Driving while missing out on sleep, being on alert 24 hours a day, checking their makeup behind the stage, the staff work hard because they all have the common goal of creating the rise of the next top-level star. 儘管薪資微薄,無數的公司員工和經理人都在藝人的背後努力的默默付出. 累得半死的 時候開車,整天24hr on call,在後台確認他們的化妝情況;所有的員工如此勤奮努力只 因為他們有一個共同的目標,就是下一個頂級巨星的崛起. Most staff members, including the on-site manager, are living in either small homes or in dormitories with 3-7 other people. If those people feel sadness due to a certain celebrity, or decide to seek another path because they feel that what they’re doing isn’t right, then the T-ara who gives happiness and joy to many people are nothing more than facades in front of the audience. 大多數的員工們,包括on-site manager,要不是住在很狹窄的房子裡,就是得和另外3-7個 人住在一起. 如果這些人因為某些藝人而感到不開心,或因為他們覺得他們所做的並不正 確而決定另謀高就(?!), 那麼梯妞帶給大家的歡笑和喜悅充其量就是個在觀眾面前的 假象罷了. Because the eight members of T-ara put teamwork ahead of their selves, they respected the decision of the 19 staff members. Because there couldn’t be any more staff members going through such pain, this decision was made after much debate. 由於梯妞的八位成員將團隊合作看得比自己都重要,因此他們尊重這19位員工的決定. 因為他們也不想見到更多的員工感受到這樣的不快,而這個決定是經過審慎的討論做 出來的. I also thought for a long time whether or not this was the right path, and know that it hurts akin to cutting out one’s own flesh. However, I made the decision based on T-ara’s future and continued existence, and together with the staff we sat up until 7 AM this morning convincing the T-ara members. 這是否是一個正確的決定,我也苦思良久,我也知道這傷害無異於自斷一臂. 但是,基於對梯妞對來以及持續生存的考量,我還是作出了這個決定,並且在其他員工 陪同下,直到早上七點徹夜說服了梯妞成員們. Again, I stress that there was no bullying taking place between the T-ara members and Hwayoung and all such reports are without truth. 我再一次強調,在梯妞其餘成員和花英之間,絕對沒有發生霸凌神馬的事情 所以相關的報導都是沒有事實根據的. Earlier, I mentioned during T-ara’s switch from 7 to 9 members that the possibility of member changes existed for those who did not work hard enough or inflicted damage upon other members. 前陣子我提到過,當梯妞的成員數由七個變成九個,對於不夠努力的成員,或是對其他成員 造成傷害的人,再次的人數更動都是有可能的. 老金早就鋪好梗了=口= If T-ara becomes lazy or puts themselves first, then the group will become empty on the inside. Therefore, the first priority would be humility, basic manners, and their character. 若梯妞變的懶散或自我中心,組合將會變成一盤散沙.因此我考量的重點就是謙遜,基本 的禮貌和個性. That is the only way I feel T-ara will continue to become a true Hallyu idol. 這也是我認為梯妞可以成為真正的韓流明星唯一的路. Since Hwayoung has much promise as a rapper, Core Contents Media has decided to end her contract without conditions and believe that she will grow into the future as a free artist. 由於花英在擔任rapper上有著很好的表現,CCM在決定無條件終止他的合約之餘,也相信 在未來他以一個自由藝人的身分能夠持續的成長. We deeply apologize for the many incidents which made everyone who loved T-ara nervous and worried, and we have nothing but sadness to convey such an unsettling incident on their third anniverary. 對於深愛梯妞的人們,因為這些事件而感到擔心,我們相當抱歉 在梯妞們三周年的時間點上發布這個令人不安的消息,我們亦深表遺憾 Although we, the staff of Core Contents Media, stayed up into early morning discussing with the T-ara members who all wanted to stay with Hwayoung, we apologize to the members in saying that we could not forsake the arguments of the staff members. 即使我們,CCM的員工,徹夜和希望花英留在身邊的成員們討論良久,我們還是必須抱歉地 說我們無法忽略員工們的聲音. Lastly, we again express our sadness to the T-ara members and wish for the best to Hwayoung and her successful rapping career. 最後我們再一次對梯妞成員們感到抱歉,並祝福花英能夠繼續作為一名成功的rapper. --- 這是老金最初的聲明稿 比新聞板擷取得多了一點詳情 但其實也不是很清楚 然後我翻到一半他又發了追加聲明ˊˋ 大家加減看QQ -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 140.112.23.174

07/30 14:37, , 1F
只有花英嗎?? 我在FB怎看到有人說還有Q...
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07/30 14:39, , 2F
很多新聞都有腦補 但新聞都先跑了
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連結
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我覺得這篇翻的不錯
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Q是小道,沒根據的事請不要相信
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只有花英吧=口=
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跟我在對岸看到的差不多
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老金澄清成員沒有不合,但是花英跟工作人員處得不好??
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看下禮拜了...
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07/30 14:42, , 10F
感覺愈描愈黑= =
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07/30 14:42, , 11F
所謂的工作人員不就是老金嗎 不接受老金的苛求就是不好
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07/30 14:42, , 12F
在給我+Q 試看看!
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07/30 14:43, , 13F
看這篇比新聞的內容感覺好一點
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07/30 14:43, , 14F
Q....也要走? 真的假的 =_________________=
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欲加之罪 何患無辭~
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19個工作人員 = 老金 "無誤"
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恩靜智妍帶傷都要上 花還有個姐姐跟親的共學被冷凍
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新來的成員很尷尬...然後一堆出演也很尷尬........
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19個老金?
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Q是誰
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19個老金也太噁心
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拜託 不能有Q..........................
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Q....如果是嫁人去了那就算了 可以接受 XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
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老金就是嗆明花英不敢爆 順便抹黑就對了........
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以後再也看不到女乃豆頁了 好難過喔
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會不會有團員跳出來不幹了 跟花英一起走 (脫離腦金魔掌)
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沒有Q 活不下去了
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越解釋越黑 黑的徹底
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現在只希望 排擠是假的 這樣我才有動力繼續支持....
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07/30 14:46, , 30F
不要來汙辱56的名字好嗎
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07/30 14:46, , 31F
版主拜託快點水桶某人 很噁心
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Q是某個黑皇冠的亂扯的 當P放了就沒了吧
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一堆八卦版來亂的 直接永久桶算了 =_=
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這篇講得很清楚了 就是指某人..但是真的嗎?只有他們知道
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而且現在就算團員們沒事 誰敢出來挺小花..怕都怕死了
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暫時聽不了Day by Day了 才三周年就多少X金新聞了啊..
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桶他 快
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不懂 工作人員過勞待遇不好 不是公司要檢討嗎 幹麼自打臉
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好矛盾 所以到底是要她們帶傷上台還是不要@@ 莫名
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還有 95 則推文
07/30 15:06, , 135F
老金:順我者昌逆我者亡,不聽話下一個就是妳
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07/30 15:06, , 136F
這句 哀 希望不是真的 QAQ
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07/30 15:07, , 137F
根本是掃除異己(老金)制
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感覺都不能犯錯的樣子,唯一處罰就是直接退團。
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我認為是腳傷花英堅持不上 老金第一次遇到敢反抗的 不像
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07/30 15:08, , 140F
聲明中之前的恩靜 智妍一樣乖乖聽話
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沒能善盡公司(社長)與藝人的溝通職責 公司方也有責任
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07/30 15:09, , 142F
As是預告制而且生涯發展定位都找到才會單飛那像老金
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更因為花英堅持不上 老金認為導致孝敏的失誤 團員也有不
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07/30 15:09, , 144F
滿 所以就爆啦
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老金控制慾很強...看dot com就很不舒服了,變態老頭
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是說都能坐椅子表演了 花英不上肯定有甚麼..
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AS是光榮畢業,這個是被校長勒令退學,不一樣。
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07/30 15:31, , 148F
老金是想把T妞們搞爛嗎……
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07/30 15:37, , 149F
我完全覺得是加人後份量惹的禍,花英加入後占的比重很明
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07/30 15:37, , 150F
聲明稿意思不是說叫花英不要上 但她要上嗎 為啥前幾樓說
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07/30 15:38, , 151F
是花英堅持不上?!搞不懂?!
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顯的增加,其他人被壓縮了不少,再加兩個進來之後可想而知
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07/30 15:39, , 153F
反正癥結點就是肥佬金這個智障做了太多爛決策
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07/30 15:40, , 154F
在這樣搞下去我看新加入的兩個最後也很有可能被犧牲掉
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07/30 16:08, , 155F
花英...希望妳不要沮喪 你的能力外貌都很好
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07/30 16:08, , 156F
不論是否真的離隊 希望妳能過得好 也能有地方讓妳發揮
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07/30 16:11, , 157F
對 最詭異的是DBD的花英比重很高 為啥還會鬧成現在這樣?
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07/30 16:32, , 158F
感覺有突發事件 如果早有預謀或不合應該無法比重很高
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07/30 16:34, , 159F
希望不是很恐怖的事情(雖然已經很慘了QQ)
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07/30 16:45, , 160F
上次妞們去海外就傳要踢人那次 理由也是團隊合群
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應該是從那時候就有衝突 但DBD卻讓花英RAP重
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其他妞保持沉默 老金一直放話 真相不得而知
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vincex大那篇追加聲明讓我不知道真相到底是啥
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07/30 17:01, , 164F
沒有真相,真相就是小花被解約
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07/30 18:16, , 165F
花英整個黑掉阿...雖然沒有明說 但.....
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07/30 18:24, , 166F
沒有真相,真相就是小花被解約
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07/30 18:54, , 167F
看起來是很明顯的有霸凌
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07/30 21:10, , 168F
還徹夜說服勒...比較像是威脅
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07/31 00:41, , 169F
這個聲明稿講一堆,但對花英退團的關鍵因素仍不具體...
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07/31 00:43, , 170F
只能推測是就是花英得罪不少工作人員...
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07/31 01:37, , 171F
19個工作人員...花英到底做了啥事?人緣有這麼糟嗎?=.=
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AS也有沒光榮畢業的 嘉熙被踢掉就很莫名其妙
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也沒解釋理由 也很突然
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推翻義
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