[情報] 馬刺隊繼Duncan之後的選秀評比(1)
Grading Each San Antonio Spurs Draft Pick Since Tim Duncan
BY JARED JOHNSON (CORRESPONDENT) ON AUGUST 10, 2013
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The San Antonio Spurs got lucky in 1997, earning the No. 1 pick in the NBA
draftdespite having the third-worst record in the league. They drafted Tim
Duncan, a star center from Wake Forest.
And as they say, the rest is history.
Thanks to their consistent superstar, the Spurs haven't had a single draft
spot higher than No. 20 since then. Even so, they have developed a reputation
as one of the top drafting teams in the NBA. Drafting outside the lottery can
sometimes be a shot in the dark, but the Spurs have made a science of it.
Let's look at all 34 players the Spurs have picked in the NBA draft since
Duncan and see how each pick grades on a traditional A-to-F scale.
Higher picks will obviously be graded more strictly. Also, if a considerable
amount of more talented players were available at the time of the pick, the
grade will be lower.
No player will be given an "incomplete."
For clarification, rookies whom the Spurs may have acquired on draft night by
trading a player already on their roster to another team (I'm looking at you,
Kawhi Leonard) are not considered because they were not officially drafted by
the team and weren't acquired via a draft pick of the same year.
However, if the Spurs picked a player and traded him on draft night or later
that summer, the haul that the Spurs got in return will be taken into account
in the pick's grade. If the player was still with the Spurs at the start of
the preseason, the pick's grade will be based upon him.
I know it's complicated, but just stay with me.
And in case you were wondering, Leonard would have been an A+.
馬刺很幸運地，在1997年拿到了NBA的狀元籤，儘管上個球季繳出了隊史最差的戰績，他
們選了Wake Forest大學的明星中鋒Tim Duncan。如同大家說的，剩下的就是歷史了。
憑藉這位巨星穩定的貢獻，馬刺自從Duncan加入以來都拿不到高於20順位的選秀籤。即使
如此，馬刺的選秀思維仍是在聯盟中備受肯定的。樂透區外的選秀籤常常會以失敗作結，
但馬刺總是有所收穫。
我們來看看既Duncan之後馬刺用選秀權選到的所有34位球員吧!並且用A到F來評價一下選
秀結果。
越高的選秀順位當然得用更高的標準檢視，如果該選秀權錯過了後面順位更有天份的球員
，那也是會扣分的。
*聲明一下，如果新人是在選秀當晚交易過來的，也就是他是別隊幫忙選的，這種我們不
計，因為他們並不算是馬刺直接用選秀權選到的。(Leonard 我就是在說你)
然而，如果是馬刺選進了再交易給別隊的話，那交易代價也會計入評比考量。
我知道有點複雜，但跟著我的腳步就對了，那如果你真的很想知道Leonard有採計的話會
是什麼成績，就告訴你吧! “A+”
1998: Round 1, Pick 24: Felipe Lopez, SG
Best season with Spurs: Did not play for the Spurs.
The Spurs apparently didn't like Lopez much at No. 24, because they traded
him on draft night with ineffective Carl Herrera to the Vancouver Grizzlies
for young combo guard Antonio Daniels.
Daniels was a valuable contributor off the bench for the Spurs for four
seasons, including their 1998-99 championship team. He posted 9.4 points per
game and 3.8 assists per game with a 15.5 player efficiency rating in
2000-01, his best season with the Spurs.
A former Gatorade National Player of the Year in high school, Lopez's career
high for PER in a season was 12.5, and he retired from the league at age 27.
Unfortunately for the Spurs, there was value to be had after the No. 24 pick,
too. Al Harrington, Rashard Lewis, Cuttino Mobley and Brad Miller were all
available at the time.
But for acquiring a solid player like Antonio Daniels with this pick, the
Spurs get a solid grade.
Grade: B
1998: Round 1, Pick 24: Felipe Lopez, SG
在馬刺的最佳成績:無
馬刺顯然不喜歡Lopez，因為他們在選秀當晚就把他和已經下滑的Carl Herrera交易到灰
熊隊換來年輕的雙能衛Antonio Daniels。
Daniels在馬刺的4個球季是個很有貢獻的板凳球員，他也是1998-99冠軍陣容之ㄧ。他於
2000-01球季每場9.4分和3.8次助攻，15.5球員效率值是在馬刺表現最好的一個賽季。
Lopez在高中曾獲選Gatorade全國年度最佳球員，NBA職業生涯最佳賽季的PER為12.5，他
於27歲就退休了。
可惜在24號順位之後也有很多好物:Al Harrington, Rashard Lewis, Cuttino Mobley和
Brad Miller。
但馬刺利用這個選秀權獲得了好球員Daniels，所以還是有好成績。
總評:B
1998: Round 2, Pick 23: Derrick Dial, SG
Best season with Spurs (2000-01): 6.3 minutes per game, 2.6 points per game,
1.2 rebounds per game, 0.6 assists per game, 0.2 blocks per game, 0.1 steals
per game, 14.3 PER.
Derrick Dial played a total of 41 games with the Spurs in his career.
In those games, he accumulated 0.5 total win shares. So basically, he won
half a game for the Spurs during his time in San Antonio.
For a player drafted six spots from the last pick in the draft, you can't
expect much more.
Grade: C
1998: Round 2, Pick 23: Derrick Dial, SG
在馬刺的最佳成績:6.3mins 2.6pts 1.2rebs 0.6asts 0.2blks 0.1stls 14.3PER
Derrick Dial總共為馬刺打了41場比賽。
在這些比賽中，他累積的win share一共是0.5，也就是說他生涯共為馬刺獲得0.5場勝利
。
對一個倒數第7順位的選秀權來說，我們也不該期望更多。
總評:C
1999: Round 1, Pick 29: Leon Smith, PF
Best season with Spurs: Did not play for the Spurs.
Like Felipe Lopez, the Spurs didn't see much in Leon Smith, because they
traded him on draft night to the Dallas Mavericks for Gordon Giricek and a
second-round pick in 2000.
Giricek became a dependable three-point sniper with other teams in the NBA
but never played for the Spurs. He was even traded for another player who
never played for the team.
That 2000 second-round pick also never suited up for the team, but we'll get
to him later.
Smith never went on to do much at all in the NBA, mainly due to psychiatric
problems related to the neglect he tragically had to endure as a child.
The Spurs got no production from this pick, which is unacceptable for a
first-rounder.
Grade: F
1999: Round 1, Pick 29: Leon Smith, PF
在馬刺的最佳成績:無
跟Felipe Lopez一樣，馬刺不怎麼想要Leon Smith，因為在選秀當晚他就被交易到小牛隊
了，換來Gordan Gircek和2000年的第二輪選秀權。
Gircek在其他球隊發展成一個可以在NBA立足的三分射手，但他沒有為馬刺出賽過，他甚
至又被交易換來另一個也沒為馬刺打過球的球員。
至於2000的第二輪選秀權後來也沒辦法為球隊帶來幫助，我們之後會提到。
Smith完全無法在NBA生存，主要是因為他幼年時期遭受的嚴重創傷造成的精神疾病。
1999: Round 2, Pick 28: Manu Ginobili, SG
Best season with Spurs (2007-08): 31.1 minutes per game, 19.5 points per
game, 4.8 rebounds per game, 4.5 assists per game, 0.4 blocks, 1.5 steals,
24.3 PER.
I'm guessing that most fans watching the 1999 NBA draft on television were
half-asleep by the time the No. 57 pick came around.
Little did they know that a future All-Star and NBA champion was being
selected.
Manu Ginobili didn't make it to the league until 2002, but once he came, he
left his mark in a big way. By his third year, he was starting every game for
the Spurs and was an All-Star reserve. That same year (2005), the Spurs won
the championship, and Ginobili led the team in win shares (4.2) during that
playoff run.
The most spectacular statistic about Ginobili? He ranks No. 13 in NBA history
in the all-encompassing win shares per 48 minutes stat (0.211), ahead of
legends likeShaquille O'Neal, Larry Bird, Bill Russell and John Stockton.
All this for a guy selected after Venson Hamilton, Roberto Bergersen and Kris
Clack. Go figure.
Grade: A+
1999: Round 2, Pick 28: Manu Ginobili, SG
在馬刺的最佳成績:2007-08球季 31.1mins 19.5pts 4.8rbs 4.5asts 0.4blks 1.5stls
PER24.3
我猜有收看1999NBA選秀節目的馬刺迷們到了第57順位的時候應該睡一半了吧! 誰也沒想
到一個未來的球星和冠軍隊成員在當時被選到了。
Ginobili一直到2002才來到NBA，但他一出現就很讓人印象深刻。三年級的他就已是整季
的先發球員了，並且入選全明星賽。這一年(2005)馬刺也贏得了總冠軍，Ginobili在季後
賽的win share更高達了4.2領先全隊。
你知道這個數據有多誇張嗎? 在NBA歷史是可以排第13的，更勝傳奇球星Shaquille
O'Neal, Larry Bird, Bill Russel和John Stockton。
這個在Venson Hamilton, Roberto Bergersen和Kris Clack之後的選秀權可以獲得怎麼樣
的成績呢?
總評:A+
2000: Round 2, Pick 12: Chris Carrawell, SF
Best season with Spurs: Did not play for the Spurs.
This was the pick that San Antonio acquired in the Leon Smith trade.
Chris Carrawell was a first-team All-American with Duke as a senior but never
panned out in the NBA. He was a versatile 6'6" forward who could do
everything well but didn't have a specific skill that stood out in the NBA.
He was also a little small to play forward in the pros.
He played one season in the D-League and then gave up on his NBA dream.
The lack of overall talent in the 2000 draft keeps Carrawell's grade from
being too low, although Michael Redd and Brian Cardinal were available at
this spot.
Grade: C-
2000: Round 2, Pick 12: Chris Carrawell, SF
在馬刺的最佳成績:無
這個選秀權是馬刺交易Leon Smith獲得的。
Chris Carawell在杜克大學四年級時入選全美第一隊，但卻沒有辦法在NBA立足。他是個
6'6”的全能前鋒，樣樣通、但也樣樣鬆，他的身材要扛前鋒也有點吃力。
他只在發展聯盟打了一個球季就放棄NBA夢了。
2000算是整體較差的選秀，所以選到他還算說得過去，但在他之後也還有Michael Redd和
Brian Cardinal可以選。
總評:C
2000: Round 2, Pick 25: Cory Hightower, SG/SF
Best season with Spurs: Did not play for the Spurs.
The second second-rounder by the Spurs also did not play a single minute in
the NBA.
Hightower was traded on draft night to the Los Angeles Lakersfor two
second-round picks, neither of whom made an impact in the NBA.
The legend of Cory Hightower is that he once refused to carry Kobe Bryant's
bags, although Hightower denies it, according to the Flintstones sports and
entertainment blog. Hightower had undeniable raw talent, but he was known as
a head case," which was why he was selected so late in the draft.
Not much is expected this low anyway.
Grade: C-
2000: Round 2, Pick 25: Cory Hightower, SG/SF
在馬刺的最佳成績:無
馬刺2000年的第二個第二輪選秀還是沒辦法在NBA上場一分鐘。
Hightower在選秀當晚就被交易給湖人了，換回兩個未來第二輪選秀權，但這兩位後來也
都無法進入NBA。
Hightower有個蠻屌的故事:他曾經拒絕幫Kobe提行李，儘管本人否認，但有多家媒體報導
過。
Hightower其實是塊無法否認的璞玉，但他的大頭症實在是太嚴重了，因此順位才會掉到
那麼後面，這個選秀順位也沒什麼好挑剔的。
總評:C
2001: Round 1, Pick 28: Tony Parker, PG
Best season with Spurs (2012-13): 32.9 minutes per game, 20.3 points per
game, 3.0 rebounds per game, 7.6 assists per game, 0.1 blocks per game, 0.8
steals per game, 23.0 PER.
We return to the good draft picks here with a bang.
Tony Parker came into the league in 2001 without high expectations, joining a
platoon at point guard with Terry Porter and Antonio Daniels.
Head coach Gregg Popovich quickly saw the 19-year-old Parker's potential and
gave him the starting nod over the two veterans. Early in Parker's career,
Popovich made the youngster work hard and even threatened him in a strange
way, according to The Basketball Jones blog.
But it made him better.
Now, Parker is an All-Star and All-NBA guard who has spent the last 12 years
honing his game for the Spurs.
A pretty good pick, to say the least.
Grade: A+
2001: Round 1, Pick 28: Tony Parker, PG
在馬刺的最佳成績: (2012-13) 32.9 minutes per game, 20.3 points per game, 3.0
rebounds per game, 7.6 assists per game, 0.1 blocks per game, 0.8 steals per
game, 23.0 PER
選爛了好幾次後我們終於又翻身了!!!
Parker於2001年來到聯盟時是不受期待的，他前面還有兩位老大哥Terry Porter和
Antonio Daniels擋著。
但是總教練Popovich很快就看到了這位19歲小伙子的天賦，並且讓他在這兩位老大哥之前
擔任先發重任。
在Parker的NBA生涯初期，Popovich對他要求甚嚴，甚至用奇怪的方式威脅他(可參閱
http://ppt.cc/zPdD )，但這讓他變的更強。
現在，Parker是NBA全明星球員，而且已經擔任馬刺隊的主控12年了。
很保守的說:選的好。
總評:A+
2001: Round 2, Pick 27: Robertas Javtokas, C
Best season with Spurs: Did not play for the Spurs.
Robertas Javtokas was an athletic freak back in the day.
The 6'11", 270-pound Lithuanian center could do things like dunk on a 12-foot
rim, and he was a muscular bully who had few weaknesses in his game. He
averaged just under nine points per game for the 2004 Lithuanian Olympic team
that placed fourth place.
Unfortunately, the Spurs could never lure him away from the Lithuanian League
or Euroleague, and he remains in Europe at age 33.
Not much value remained this late in the 2001 draft, however, which helps the
grade.
Grade: C
2001: Round 2, Pick 27: Robertas Javtokas, C
在馬刺的最佳成績:無
Javtokas在當時是個運動能力極為變態的球員。
這位6’11” 270磅的立陶宛中鋒可以從12呎遠的地方起跳灌籃，他發達的肌肉更讓他在
賽場上無往不利。在2004奧運中他場均可得將近9分，排在立陶宛隊第4。
可惜的是，馬刺始終沒辦法吸引他離開立陶宛聯賽或是歐州聯賽，現年33歲的他還是選擇
待在歐洲。
這個順位之後也沒什麼好貨了，所以沒什麼好扣分的。
總評:C
2001: Round 2, Pick 29: Bryan Bracey, SF
Best season with Spurs: Did not play for the Spurs.
Like Javtokas two picks before him, Bryan Bracey never played in the NBA.
Unlike Javtokas, though, he did get a shot in the NBDL before turning to
Europe to carve out a career.
He played two years at Oregon before declaring for the draft and placed
second in the Pac-10 in scoring at 18.6 points per game during his sophomore
year. He was also a heck of a rebounder at small forward, nabbing 7.1
rebounds in the same year.
Grade: C
2001: Round 2, Pick 29: Bryan Bracey, SF
在馬刺的最佳成績:無
跟兩個順位前的Javtokas一樣，Bracey從來沒有來過NBA。跟Javtokas不一樣的是他回歐
洲打球前曾經短暫待過NBDL發展聯盟。
他在選秀會之前已經在Oregon打了兩年球，第二年在Pac-10賽程中場均可得18.6分7.1籃
板，以小前鋒來說算是個籃板怪傑。
總評:C
2002: Round 1, Pick 26: John Salmons, SG
Best season with Spurs: Has not played for the Spurs.
John Salmons was traded to the Philadelphia 76ers on draft night, so the haul
that the Spurs got for him will be graded here.
Along with Mark Bryant and Randy Holcomb (both non-factors), Salmons was
traded for Speedy Claxton, a defensive-minded point guard who had some nice
games in the Spurs' 2003 championship run. Claxton left for free agency after
one season.
However, we will never know what Salmons would have been able to do with the
Spurs. In his prime, he was a crafty scorer despite his athletic limitations.
He scored 18.3 points per game during the 2008-09 season.
Grade: C-
2002: Round 1, Pick 26: John Salmons, SG
在馬刺的最佳成績:無
Salmons在選秀會當晚就被交易到七六人了，因此他在七六人的成就也會列入等一下的評
比。
Salmons當時是和兩個不起眼的球員Mark Bryant、Randy Holcomb一起換回一個得分犀利
的控球後衛Speedy Claxton。他在2003冠軍賽也貢獻良多，但他待了一季就成了自由球員
。
然而，我們永遠不知道Salmons如果留在馬刺的話可以做到什麼。在他的巔峰時期，他可
以克服體能劣勢獲得不少分數。他在08-09賽季場均18.3分。
總評:C-
2002: Round 2, Pick 27: Luis Scola, PF
Best season with Spurs: Has not played for the Spurs.
This is a tough pick to grade. On one hand, the Spurs did draft an excellent
player late in the draft and kept him for five years.
The Spurs tried to buy Scola out of his Euroleague contract in 2005, but the
price was too much for them, according to Draft Express. They ended up having
to trade him to the Houston Rockets in 2007 with Jackie Butler for a Greek
point guard who was a big-time bust (Vassilis Spanoulis) and a 2009
second-round pick.
That 2009 second-round pick (Nando de Colo) is now a decent player for the
Spurs, but Scola was definitely the one that got away.
Grade: D+
2002: Round 2, Pick 27: Luis Scola, PF
在馬刺的最佳成績:無
這個選秀非常難以評比，因為馬刺的確是選的很好啊!
馬刺試圖在2005年買斷Scola在歐洲的合約，但是當時的價錢太高，因此他們只好在2007
年將他和Jackie Butler交易到火箭隊，換回當時頗夯的希臘控衛Vassilis Spanoulis和
2009年的二輪籤。
後來的那個二輪籤選到了DeColo，現在於馬刺隊上還算堪用，但沒能得到Scola的損失還
是太大。
總評:D+
to be continued.....
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08/13 08:44, 47F
推
08/13 09:09, , 48F
08/13 09:09, 48F
推
08/13 11:45, , 49F
08/13 11:45, 49F
→
08/13 11:46, , 50F
08/13 11:46, 50F
推
08/13 12:01, , 51F
08/13 12:01, 51F
推
08/13 13:44, , 52F
08/13 13:44, 52F
→
08/13 13:45, , 53F
08/13 13:45, 53F
→
08/13 13:46, , 54F
08/13 13:46, 54F
推
08/13 17:59, , 55F
08/13 17:59, 55F
推
08/15 21:05, , 56F
08/15 21:05, 56F