Fw: [外絮] 季中評比:本季被過於高估的球員

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※ [本文轉錄自 NBA 看板 #1IvJBFFb ] 作者: nasa73 (啊竹) 看板: NBA 標題: [外絮] 季中評比:本季被過於高估的球員 時間: Mon Jan 27 00:07:41 2014 部分翻譯.. 圖文好讀版 : http://ppt.cc/brdH 原文來源 : http://ppt.cc/xYx9 Building the NBA's All-Overrated Team at Midseason Point 季中來選一個全"被高估的明星"隊 Cross your fingers and hope your favorite guys didn't end up on the midseason version of the 2013-14 All-Overrated Team. 祈禱你最愛的球員不會入選這個2013-14季中的全"被高估的明星"隊吧。 1.Starting Point Guard: Ricky Rubio 先發控衛:Ricky Rubio Team: Minnesota Timberwolves 灰狼隊 Age: 23 2013-14 Stats: 8.5 points, 4.7 rebounds, 8.1 assists, 2.6 steals, 0.2 blocks, 14.9 PER(註一) Ricky Rubio might be great at passing and stealing, but he doesn't bring much else to the table. His shooting is absolutely atrocious, and it's leading some people to make some rather bold statements. Rubio或許很會傳球和抄截,但在場上他也不能多做什麼了。他的投籃真的很糟,甚至遭 到許多球評惡毒的批評。 Rubio is shooting only 34.6 percent from the field during the 2013-14 campaign —worse than both his rookie and sophomore(註二) go-rounds. Although his shot has improved from beyond the arc(註三), that's more a credit to the improvement of his teammates' offensive capabilities, as teams are electing to leave him wide open on the perimeter. 雖然Rubio的三分球投籃有進步,但那是因為球隊的進攻也進步了,讓他有更多的空擋。 但Rubio本季整體投籃命中率只有34.6%。比他的菜鳥和第二年不完整的球季還差。 But his problems go well beyond shooting. His game is not showing any growth. Rubio is now posting the lowest assist percentage of his career, per Basketball-Reference, and he's also recording the highest turnover percentage. Not exactly a good combination, last time I checked. 但他的問題不只是投籃,他的表現沒有成長。Rubio的場均傳球次數來到生涯新低。而且 失誤率也來到新高,同時出現這兩個問題並不是好的現象。 2.Starting Shooting Guard: Dion Waiters 先發得分後衛:Dion Waiters Team: Cleveland Cavaliers 騎士隊 Age: 22 2013-14 Stats: 14.4 points, 2.9 rebounds, 2.6 assists, 0.9 steals, 0.2 blocks, 12.1 PER Although his three-point shooting is looking better in 2013-14 than it did in 2012-13, Waiters is still shooting only 40.4 percent from the field. His free-throw percentage is also down rather significantly, and that's led to lower true-shooting and effective field-goal percentages than he posted during his already-inefficient rookie season. 雖然他的三分球看起來比去年進步,但他的投籃命中率還是只有40.4%。罰球命中率也大 幅下降。整體命中率比已經沒有效率的菜鳥球季還差。 3.Starting Small Forward: Jeff Green 先發小前鋒:Jeff Green Team: Boston Celtics 塞爾提克隊 Age: 27 2013-14 Per-Game Stats: 15.8 points, 5.0 rebounds, 1.5 assists, 0.5 steals, 0.5 blocks, 13.6 PER Remember when Jeff Green was supposed to be the next star in Beantown(註四)? 記得大家覺得Jeff Green會成為波士頓的下一個球星嗎? During the offseason, it seemed as though everyone thought he was going to be the next big thing for the Boston Celtics, cementing himself as an All-Star candidate and building block for the foreseeable future. 季前每個人都覺得他會是塞爾提克的下一位巨星,會是全明星隊的候選人,有著前途無量 的未來。 While the dunks are still there, the rest of Green's game isn't. He's shooting only 42.9 percent from the field, and he's largely failed to handle the burdens that were placed on his shoulders during the pre-Rondo portion of the season. 本季雖然還是有精彩的灌籃,但其它就沒有了。他的投籃命中率只有42.9%。他也無法一 肩扛起Rondo不在時帶領球隊變好的任務。 4.Starting Power Forward: Josh Smith 先發大前鋒:Josh Smith Team: Detroit Pistons 活塞隊 Age: 28 2013-14 Per-Game Stats: 15.7 points, 6.9 rebounds, 3.2 assists, 1.5 steals, 1.5 blocks, 14.6 PER The Detroit Pistons might not be playing Josh Smith at the right spot, but I'll put him in his natural power-forward slot. 活塞隊可能沒有把Josh Smith放到對的位子,但我將他歸類為比較適合他的大前鋒位置。 According to 82Games.com, Smith has spent 56.9 percent of his time on the court at the 3, and he's been absolutely terrible. By posting an 11.8 PER and allowing opposing small forwards to put up a 19.0 PER, he's way on the wrong side of the ledger. Smith在場上花了56.9%的時間在三分線上,表現很差,只有11.8 PER的貢獻。他防守的小 前鋒則有19.0 PER。 He's shooting only 41.1 percent from the field while failing to make much of an impact with his passing. In the past, he's been a valuable offensive player even when his shot isn't falling because he can involve himself in such a variety of ways, but that isn't happening this year. 他的投籃命中率只有41.1%。他的傳球也沒有多大的作用。以往,他是個有優秀的進攻球 員,他有不錯的外線和多種進攻方式,但今年全都消失了。 J Smoove is knocking down 23.9 percent of his tries from downtown(註五), and he's attempting a career-high 3.8 per game. That's not just bad, rather, it's historically bad. 他的三分球命中率只有23.9%。而且每場三分球次數來到生涯新高-每場3.8個。不只是差 ,還是史上最糟。 Basketball-Reference shows that throughout NBA history, 1,214 qualified players have lofted up at least three shots per game from beyond the arc. Of those, here are the only ones who haven't been able to top Smith's putrid percentage. NBA歷史上,三分球場均3個以上的球員有1214個,每個人的命中率都比Smith高。 4.Starting Center: Dwight Howard 先發中鋒:Dwight Howard Team: Houston Rockets 火箭隊 Age: 28 2013-14 Per-Game Stats: 18.1 points, 12.6 rebounds, 1.9 assists, 0.9 steals, 1.7 blocks, 21.6 PER Is there a reason that Dwight Howard still hasn't developed more post moves than that sweeping jump-hook he uses going in either direction? Now that he's worked with Hakeem Olajuwon (twice) and is coached by Kevin McHale, he's out of excuses for failing to become more of a go-to post player. 可以解釋一下為什麼Howard還是只會兩邊的跳躍勾射而不是更多的低位單打?他現在由歐 拉朱萬指導而且教練是Kevin McHale。他沒有藉口不成為更好的低位單打者。 You couldn't ask for better mentors than those two, but D12 still doesn't do much with his back to the basket. According to Synergy Sports(subscription required), the big man is scoring only 0.76 points per possession in post-up (註六) situations, a mark that's topped by 86 players around the Association. 你再也找不到比這兩位更好的低位大師了,但Howard在背框單打的表現還是不突出。他每 次低位單打只能得到0.76分,聯盟排名第87位。 Synergy also shows that he's allowed 0.86 points per possession, which gives him the No. 159 mark in the NBA. He's no longer functioning as an elite post-up defender, and he's struggled to stop roll men(註七), which is where he made his mark during his Defensive Player of the Year days. 他在每次對位讓對手得到0.86 分,聯盟排名第159位。他低位的防守沒有以往靈光。他也 不像拿到最佳防守球員時可以有效的阻擋空切的球員。 Reserve Guards 替補後衛: 1.Bradley Beal, Washington Wizards 巫師隊 2.Kyrie Irving, Cleveland Cavaliers 騎士隊 But should he be starting for the Eastern Conference All-Star team? Irving可以在東區明星隊先發嗎? Absolutely not, especially with a certain John Wall straight up balling for the Washington Wizards. Yet fans are voting him in, which is pretty much the definition of being overrated. When voting support yields something that's undeserved, it can't get any more clear. 當然不,尤其是John Wall帶領巫師隊扶搖直上。然而粉絲選擇了Irving,所以這裡將 Irving選為被高估的明星。 Reserve Forwards 替補前鋒: 1.Harrison Barnes, Golden State Warriors 勇士隊 2.Gordon Hayward, Utah Jazz 爵士隊 3.Tayshaun Prince, Memphis Grizzlies 灰熊隊 Reserve Centers 替補中鋒: 1.Kendrick Perkins, Oklahoma City Thunder 雷霆隊 Kendrick Perkins should not be starting basketball games for the Oklahoma City Thunder. That is all. Perkins應該停止在雷霆隊當先發,就這樣。 2.Jonas Valanciunas, Toronto Raptors 暴龍隊 註一: PER = Player Efficiency Rating 球員效率值 一種評比球員出場效率的計算方法。結合了球員的投籃命中率、三分球、助攻、罰球、失 誤、籃板、抄截、火鍋等數據,根據球隊和整個NBA球隊的平均數據進行加權,最後得到 每個球員的效率值。 圖、以下是Wiki上用PER對應的層級表 註二:Sophomore 二年級的、第二年的 註三:Beyond The Arc 在弧線之後,指在三分線後也就是三分球。 註四:Beantown 波士頓的暱稱 殖民時代時,波士頓最為人知的美食就是烤豆子(Bake Beans),當時的過客或是商人因此 稱波士頓為Beantown。 圖、烤豆美食圖 註五:From downtown 三分球 籃球場的“downtown”指的是靠中圈(跳球圈)的區域,From downtown就是在三分球線外 投籃的意思。 註六:Post-up 背框單打 進攻方持球球員背對籃框單吃對方防守球員。 註七:Roll man 空切球員 指的是擋切戰術(Pick & Roll)中做掩護並轉身空切的人。有可能空切到靠近籃框做攻擊 或向外轉走尋找接應與出手機會。 心得:大家覺得本季還有誰可以入選這個"特別"的明星隊呢..... -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 114.34.221.214

01/27 00:09, , 1F
草莓獸上榜啦~~~
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DH有點冤 問題根本不在他身上
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> <
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01/27 00:11, , 4F
大家對DH要求真高
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01/27 00:11, , 5F
草莓哭哭...他有點躺槍XD
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防守真的不能怪草莓獸,防守不是一個人的事
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火箭防守系統之破爛 一天到晚還要擦屁股 雖小
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01/27 00:12, , 8F
草莓獸本來就被高估
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01/27 00:13, , 9F
低位爛是真的...不過防守真的很冤...DH可以先去掐死
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01/27 00:13, , 10F
火箭的防守教練...爛炸了XD
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01/27 00:13, , 11F
低位單打結果: 沒進,掉球,進攻犯規,最後才是得分
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01/27 00:13, , 12F
因為是第一C, 要有單人統治籃下的實力才能稱第一C
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01/27 00:13, , 13F
問題就是他有兩個名人堂老師教,技術卻…
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01/27 00:14, , 14F
不然應該NBA第一C從缺, 改稱第2C
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01/27 00:14, , 15F
Post-up不完全等於背框吧...一般泛指低位單打
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火箭防守不好要怪他...這絕對有點奇怪阿~~顆顆
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01/27 00:15, , 17F
只是低位比較多情況是用背框,但不代表兩者可以畫上
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01/27 00:15, , 18F
等號噢
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01/27 00:15, , 19F
還有他卡位老是手架在別人肩膀上 不被B才怪
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01/27 00:15, , 20F
買飯的鬍鬚張
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01/27 00:16, , 21F
但事實上post-up也不是就完全在講低位能力
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草莓協防意識還蠻好的啊
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01/27 00:18, , 23F
DH有點冤
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01/27 00:18, , 24F
暴龍的中鋒還不錯用阿
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01/27 00:19, , 25F
DH防守沒本篇說的這樣
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01/27 00:20, , 26F
DH主因是因為第一中鋒吧 規格比較高點
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01/27 00:20, , 27F
DH也只有防守有點冤...低位進攻根本沒改善
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01/27 00:22, , 28F
即使說得這麼爛...但他還是有當第一中鋒的本事啊
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01/27 00:22, , 29F
曹操強烈譴責這個不肖子孫
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沒有Sanders?
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黑娃??
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01/27 00:25, , 32F
第一中鋒這稱號要背負很多期待和負擔的 DH可惜無法
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01/27 00:26, , 33F
DH也沒這麼不堪吧...Larry Sanders才最該上榜
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01/27 00:27, , 34F
Perkins應該停止在雷霆隊當先發,就這樣。XDDDDDDDDD
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01/27 00:29, , 35F
很酸XDD
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我以為一定會有Larry Sanders...他今年一堆問題= =
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01/27 00:32, , 37F
XDDDD 魔獸補防守破洞補到責任都算他的
01/27 00:32, 37F

01/27 00:33, , 38F
Perkins本來就沒人對他有啥期望吧..
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01/27 00:33, , 39F
回dmdjjj低位應該是low-post而post-up指背框要球單打
01/27 00:33, 39F
還有 52 則推文
還有 1 段內文
01/27 03:45, , 92F
別小看酸酸 有上榜也酸 沒上榜照酸 比尚書大人還厲害
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Josh smith 有點冤吧 季前很多專家都看衰他阿
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誰高估他了? 而且內線已經兩個大個子了 他當然只能
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到外面阿 暴龍那中鋒才真正被高估 今年選到他有夠雷
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Josh是56.9%被放在小前鋒, 不是在三分線
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選一堆打得還可以的 怎麼不選像Larry Sanders這種
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草莓獸本來就是被高估,這幾年都沒什麼進步
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DH任何球都想封阻 導致籃板常常空掉
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不過還是可以參考之前沒買飯JH時DH的表現的確還是不
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賴啦...
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草莓低位真的頗爛 GASOL吃死他
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幸好老大受傷,不然...
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魯蛇嫩比歐 不意外 zzzz
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01/27 08:33, , 105F
二流文章釣出幾個只會嘴的人 不意外
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DH問題在於教練和老師是低位傳奇球星~
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harden不在那幾場 DH的表現還蠻強的
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01/27 08:51, , 108F
刻意漏列Lin 種族畸視!
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waiters連明星都稱不上吧,超鐵
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怎麼沒有林? 酸酸不是說林overpaid嗎?
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01/27 09:21, , 111F
酸酸表示:無林? 你鍵盤球評?
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Rubio的用處就是偶爾傳球上高光 其他都沒用 這樣不如
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加入哈林籃球隊去表演 還有臉 否則被看破手腳 快混不
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下去了吧 林就足夠完爆他了 投籃比軟豆還鳥
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被高估教練:火箭教練團
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沒有丁尺??這不科學阿!
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對喔居然沒JR!!
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這份榜單的都是各隊先發,JR只是個替補當然沒有
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01/27 10:25, , 119F
選DH是有點誇張了....
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第一中鋒早換hibbert了,沒超強中鋒時代的悲哀
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經過了湖人的一年, 還有人期待DH變超人嗎??
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DH已經打的比上季好惹
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沒有丁尺才奇怪
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DH單打效率相當低,有脈絡可知他已經過巔峰期了
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01/27 16:45, , 125F
沒有哈登 根本二流球評
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沒Rose
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01/28 06:06, , 127F
或許DH的最強時期已過 但跟上季比 他這季已回春不少了 說起
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來 他還在他的顛峰期 只是人們是抱著他還會成長的期待
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DH比上季健康多了,只是大家對於第一中鋒當然會有特別期望
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本季哈登+-大增 小貝減
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