Mookie Betts or Xander Bogaerts?

看板RedSox作者時間8年前 (2015/10/24 15:01), 8年前編輯推噓22(22推 0噓 4→)
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A few weeks ago I got into a good discussion about young players with a friend. The topic of Mookie Betts vs. Xander Bogaerts came up. Obviously these are two of the key pieces for the Red Sox franchise going forward. I didn't realize this until I looked it up just now, but they were born within a week of each other in October, 1992. Bogaerts was the higher profile prospect when they were in the minors, but Betts has been stunningly effective since reaching the majors. Their value in 2015 was fairly similar but with an edge for Betts if you believe fWAR, 4.3 for Bogaerts and 4.8 for Betts. Mookie is the better hitter at this stage with more power and better plate discipline, but Xander is no slouch and has a defensive premium as a shortstop. They are virtually the same age, so no advantage there. Our discussion centered on who will be the better player going forward. I will not tell you what conclusion we reached, but this seems like an excellent discussion question for the board. So let's discuss. Who do you want on your team for the next ten years, Betts or Bogaerts? Mookie Betts Xander Bogaerts 位置 CF/2B SS 年紀 剛滿23 剛滿23 兩人生日差6天 三圍 .291/.341/.479 .320/.355/.421 BABIP .310 .372 WRC+ 119 109 WAR(Fangraphs) 4.8 4.3 WAR(BR) 6.0 4.6 現在網路投票 364比350票 Mookie Betts領先 我選Mookie Betts,地板高,速度樂勝,打擊穩定性跟game power都比較好 Xander Bogaerts 優點是守備位置價值比較高,raw power猛,但今年BABIP實在太高了, 明年能否維持這種三圍?且raw power能否轉為game power? -- → Herlin:據說有球探會看體毛 認為體毛較少的未來發育可能性更大 11/01 22:18 → Herlin:(因為男性荷爾蒙還沒有完全作用完?) 11/01 22:18 → Herlin:不過這是用在毛本來就很多的阿督仔上 11/01 22:19 推 alex710707:靠 版主說看體毛是在開玩笑還是認真的? 11/01 22:19 → Herlin:用在東方人身上我想應該是肯定不準 11/01 22:19 → Herlin:真的 我看Baseball America 的印象 11/01 22:19 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 211.73.166.30 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/RedSox/M.1445670071.A.DF1.html
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10/24 15:13, , 1F
簽名檔是真的假的?
10/24 15:13, 1F
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10/24 15:40, , 2F
Betts
10/24 15:40, 2F
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10/24 16:07, , 3F
哼
10/24 16:07, 3F
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10/24 16:07, , 4F
好啦Betts一票
10/24 16:07, 4F
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10/24 16:14, , 5F
XB本季守備算是有成長吧 本季WAR第一是Mookie
10/24 16:14, 5F
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10/24 16:22, , 6F
樓樓上投得很不甘願喔~~
10/24 16:22, 6F
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10/24 17:27, , 7F
當然是XBogaerts一票
10/24 17:27, 7F
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10/24 17:47, , 8F
我們幾個守備光譜高的位置都有自家農產品卡位了:C,SS,CF,R
10/24 17:47, 8F
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10/24 17:47, , 9F
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10/24 17:47, 9F
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10/24 17:47, , 10F
感覺爽爽der~
10/24 17:47, 10F
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10/24 18:14, , 11F
但是1.3B是幫球隊扣分.....
10/24 18:14, 11F
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10/24 18:18, , 12F
Betts +1
10/24 18:18, 12F
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10/24 18:34, , 13F
Betts一票
10/24 18:34, 13F
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10/24 19:59, , 14F
顏值Bogaerts1票
10/24 19:59, 14F
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10/24 20:18, , 15F
期待明年兩位再進化
10/24 20:18, 15F
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10/24 21:36, , 16F
Betts這種caramel color才是現在流行的膚色
10/24 21:36, 16F
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10/24 22:23, , 17F
3.7樓互投給對方 XD XB+1
10/24 22:23, 17F
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10/24 22:32, , 18F
Betts+1
10/24 22:32, 18F
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10/25 11:35, , 19F
Betts
10/25 11:35, 19F
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10/25 16:40, , 20F
Betts+1
10/25 16:40, 20F
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10/25 20:43, , 21F
XB一票~!!
10/25 20:43, 21F
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10/27 02:02, , 22F
XB囉～因為我有XB的簽名球，沒有Betts的 XD
10/27 02:02, 22F
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10/28 21:53, , 23F
Betts一票
10/28 21:53, 23F
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10/30 17:09, , 24F
XB+1
10/30 17:09, 24F
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10/30 20:50, , 25F
XB今年很神奇的變水槍
10/30 20:50, 25F
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11/01 19:48, , 26F
Betts+1
11/01 19:48, 26F
Xander Bogaerts 5 票 VS Mookie Betts 10票 ※ 編輯: alex710707 (211.73.166.31), 11/01/2015 20:07:02
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