[新聞] A Look at the Red Sox Payroll in 2010

看板RedSox作者時間16年前 (2009/12/16 16:33), 編輯推噓14(14010)
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By Alex Speier On Friday, Red Sox CEO Larry Lucchino sounded a note of some defiance about his team's commitment to the 2010 season. He insisted their financial investment in winning would remain undiminished in the coming season. 執行長 Larry Lucchino 強調紅襪在未來球季的財務投資不會縮水 “Our payroll has not gone down the last two years. The newspapers may report that our payroll has gone down the last two years, but that is just not accurate. And our payroll will be higher this year,” Lucchino said on the Dennis & Callahan Show. 「我們的 payroll 過去兩年並未下降。可能有報導指出這兩年來是下降,這並不準確。 而且今年球季 payroll 將會更高」 “We don't discuss publicly what our payroll is, because we think there's a competitive disadvantage in telling the other teams in our division and our league what we're going to spend and not spend because they may be able to do some guesses and calculations about how active we'll be in the market. We're always pleased when other teams announce that they're payroll will be X or Y, and we just sit quietly and don't say anything. But it is inaccurate to say our payroll has gone down, and our payroll will go up this year.” 「我們不會公開討論 payroll 是多少,告知同分區和同聯盟的其他球隊我們的還有 多少金額可以花用是競爭的不利因素,因為對方可以猜測、估算我們在市場的動作。 我們總是樂意聽到其他球隊宣佈他們的 payroll 是多少,但我們不透漏任何訊息。 但這也說不準我們的 payroll 會是增加或是減少。」 (編按:這兩段是在自打嘴巴嗎...) 總經理 Theo Epstein 在冬季會議上表示 “There's some things we want to do this winter,” said Epstein, “and we don't have a ton of room under the [competitive balance tax].” 這冬天要有所動作,但也得考慮豪華稅,而今年 CBT 門檻從 $162M 上升到 $170M。 經由一些實際數字,預期紅襪今年 offseason 後 Payroll 會衝上這門檻。 要先留意到一個誤解: 2009 的 Payroll 算出來是 $122M,與 CBT 門檻距離甚遠。這表示用開季時的 roster 名單計算的薪資無法反應出實際開銷,像是 Smoltz、Saito 的激勵獎金 或是季中交易來的 Martinez、Martinez 和 Wagner。 所以 2009 年紅襪的 Payroll 遠高於 $122M,根據一個大聯盟消息來源:超過 $150M 在簽下 Marco Scutaro、Mike Cameron 和 John Lackey 之後,已經很接近這門檻 基於非正式的 40 人名單薪資估算,紅襪 2010 的 CBT Payroll 大約在 $165-170M 這已經表示紅襪明年將會是大聯盟史上最貴的球隊 - 洋基除外。 如果現在紅襪簽了 Adrian Beltre 一年 $10-12M,將付出額外 $2M 的豪華稅 但這也不表示紅襪這個冬天就不再有動作,相反地,球隊顯示出以往沒有過的購買慾 (編按:其實我也沒有很懂...有錯請指正) Red Sox 2010 Payroll (Calculated for Luxury Tax Purposes) http://www.weei.com/sites/default/files/pictures/121509_2010payroll2.jpg
Also known as the luxury tax, its meant by Major League Baseball as a deterrent to spending. The Collective Bargaining Agreement between the Players Association and MLB owners defines a payroll level beyond which teams will be taxed for their spending. In 2010, the CBT threshold increases from $162 million to $170 million. As a result of that substantial number, many anticipated the Sox might go berserk in dispensing cash this offseason. This perception was based in part on a misunderstanding: the Sox have been portrayed as having carried a $122 million payroll in 2009, and so the idea that the team would near the CBT threshold seemed outlandish. But that $122 million figure had nothing to do with the Sox’ payroll as calculated for CBT purposes. Instead, it represented the combined Opening Day base salaries of the 25-man roster (and players on the disabled list). It failed to reflect millions in incentives that would be earned by the likes of John Smoltz and Takashi Saito, or millions more spent on mid-season acquisitions such as Victor Martinez, Alex Gonzalez and Billy Wagner. Nor did that figure account for the roughly $10 million that teams must spend every year on benefits. So, the 2009 Red Sox payroll was far greater than the $122 million figure. For CBT purposes, the Sox, according to one major-league source, had a payroll in excess of $150 million. Now, the Sox have already been big players in the offseason market. But their one major move for Lackey and two complementary moves for Marco Scutaro and Mike Cameron have already pushed the Sox near the CBT threshold that Epstein suggested the Sox were approaching with caution. Right now, the Red Sox CBT payroll for next season — based on informal projections of salaries for players on the 40-man roster whose salaries are not yet set — seems likely to check in around $165-170 million. That would already mean that next year's Red Sox will represent the most expensive assemblage of talent by a non-Yankees team in big-league history. The previous mark was owned by the Sox' World Series winning team of 2007, which had a $163.1 million payroll (as calculated for CBT purposes). That season, the team was hit with a luxury tax of roughly $6 million for clearing that year’s $148 million CBT threshold. Now, with the big-ticket free-agent signings of Lackey and Cameron, the Sox are at or near the point at which they’ll start to be penalized for any further spending on players. That prospect, in turn, has implications for anything else the Sox might do this offseason. The Sox, after not having paid the luxury tax the last two years, would be subject to a 22.5 percent penalty for payroll over $170 million in 2010. As such, the cost of any further acquisitions would become steeper. Were the Sox to sign a player like Adrian Beltre for $10-12 million a year, they’d have to pay more than $2 million extra in luxury tax. That is not a guarantee that the Sox are done with their moves this offseason. But, the tax that will be assessed on any additional signings this offseason will at least give the Sox pause before making more moves. If nothing else, the current franchise-record commitments give a sense of why the Sox might bristle at suggestions that they have scaled back. To the contrary, the team appears to be spending like never before. http://tinyurl.com/y9ah7oe -- t a ╮ ╭ ═══ ════ ◢█◣ ◢█◣ theanswer3 h n █ █ ╰═════╯ █ ● █ ● ◢█◣ █ █ █◥█ e s █◣ █▌◢█◣ ◢ ◢ █◢◤ ◣ █ ◣ ◥◣◥ ◢◤ █ █\ w ◥██ ◤█▌█ █◢█ ██◣ █ █ █ ◣◥◣ ◢◤ █◣█ e █▌ ◥█◤ ◥◤◥ █ ◥ ◥ █ ◥ ◥█◤ ███ ◥█◤ << ║ r 3╰═ ═══════════◆◤════════════════╯ -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 118.160.67.90

12/16 16:40, , 1F
前兩段真的有跳針的感覺= =
12/16 16:40, 1F

12/16 17:01, , 2F
邪惡帝國 換人做做看 XDD
12/16 17:01, 2F

12/16 17:06, , 3F
抖...
12/16 17:06, 3F

12/16 17:27, , 4F
問題是...沒有反應出來XD
12/16 17:27, 4F

12/16 18:26, , 5F
邪惡帝國v.s邪惡王國?(我再說啥?)
12/16 18:26, 5F

12/16 18:55, , 6F
推翻譯分享!
12/16 18:55, 6F

12/16 19:03, , 7F
意思就是 我們沒機會再追貝和假日 交易小卡布和小王子的機
12/16 19:03, 7F

12/16 19:04, , 8F
會木不大囉 冏很大 感覺真的沒反應在打線上說
12/16 19:04, 8F

12/16 19:05, , 9F
12/16 19:05, 9F

12/16 19:08, , 10F
那 還有空間和北極談延長嗎
12/16 19:08, 10F

12/16 19:14, , 11F
感謝翻譯!! 省很多時間看文章^^
12/16 19:14, 11F

12/16 20:09, , 12F
第一二段有說跟沒說一樣XDD 簽錯人太傷了Orz Lugo etc..
12/16 20:09, 12F

12/16 20:10, , 13F
Beckett一定會談的
12/16 20:10, 13F

12/16 20:29, , 14F
明年最少會有30M的大約到期,簽北極不愁沒錢
12/16 20:29, 14F

12/16 20:44, , 15F
推~這麼說來這幾年就只有NYY付豪華稅喔~
12/16 20:44, 15F

12/16 20:58, , 16F
紅襪 2004-2007 都有付豪華稅
12/16 20:58, 16F

12/16 21:29, , 17F
不過 這三年都只付一點點錢而已 另外 豪華稅採累加制
12/16 21:29, 17F

12/16 21:30, , 18F
中斷後重新計算 所以 2010就算超過門檻 稅率還是很便宜
12/16 21:30, 18F

12/16 21:32, , 19F
球團今年的確有很大的機會衝破門檻
12/16 21:32, 19F

12/16 22:07, , 20F
如果想再簽下一個大砲的話,肯定是破了
12/16 22:07, 20F

12/16 22:13, , 21F
不過我們冬季沒有想補個救援來嗎?
12/16 22:13, 21F

12/17 02:41, , 22F
感謝翻譯! 不過沒自打嘴巴啦,他是說payroll過去has
12/17 02:41, 22F

12/17 02:41, , 23F
gone down並不準確,然後未來will go up ~
12/17 02:41, 23F

12/17 23:13, , 24F
他是指下一段說payroll應該是秘密,所以有點自打嘴巴
12/17 23:13, 24F
※ 編輯: Belladonaa 來自: 118.160.70.225 (12/19 01:32)
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