[情報] Teixeira’s Potential Impact on the Red Sox

看板RedSox作者時間15年前 (2008/12/20 12:15), 編輯推噓13(13019)
留言32則, 14人參與, 5年前最新討論串1/1
I’ve already stated my support for the Red Sox going after Mark Teixeira based mainly on the fact that Boston has a bunch payroll room and he’s one of the top players on the market. But with Mike Lowell, Kevin Youkilis, and David Ortiz already on the team, it’s hard to figure how Teixeira will make sense financially. With that question in mind, I took a quick and dirty look at one possible scenario (the most likely one in my mind)--Teixeira is being brought in to replace Mike Lowell. Here’s what I found. Without, Teixeira, Youkilis would presumably play 1B and assuming he’s healthy, Lowell would play 3B. Their values break down like this (values from Fangraphs, projections on offense are an average of Bill James and Marcel, defense is Fangraphs’ UZR with a 3/2/1 + 2 parts regression to the mean, adjusted for playing time and aging a bit too, positional adjustments are Tango’s): Youk at 1B: +20 wRAA, +4 UZR, - 12.5 positional adjustment, +20 (above replacement level) = 31.5 runs above replacement Lowell at 3B (~130 g): +2.6 wRAA, +7 UZR, +2 positional adjustment, +17 (above replacement level) = 28.6 runs above replacement Total: ~60 Runs above replacement Now here’s now it looks with Tex coming in to play 1B and Youk moving to 3B: Teixeira at 1B: +33 wRAA, +1 UZR, - 12.5 positional adjustment, +20 (above replacement level) = 41.5 runs above replacement Youk at 3B: +20 wRAA, +9 UZR, +2.5 positional adjustment, +20 (above replacement level) = 51.5 runs above replacement Total: ~93 Runs above replacement Total improvement: ~33 runs Looking at these numbers, the Red Sox gain a good chunk by replacing Lowell with a superior player in Teixeira. But that’s not the only effect. They also magically turn Youkilis from a very good player into a great one--another Mark Teixeira, only better! I guess great players really do make others around them better! Much of this improvement stems from the positional adjustment of 15 runs, but if you look at the bolded #s, UZR also grades Youkilis better as a 3B than as a 1B, even though you’d normally expect the opposite. The 3B numbers are based on only 450 innings over the past 3 years, an extremely small sample, but it should be noted that in almost 1100 career innings at 3B, Youk is at +13.9/150 UZR. Assuming that the Youkilis numbers are correct, the Red Sox gain about 3.3 wins in 2009 by adding Teixeira (and presumably similar amounts in the years that follow as he, Lowell, and Youkilis age). The $20 mil/year that Tex is expected to receive is a steep price for 3.3 wins in a market where wins usually go for ~$4.6 mil each. But--there are a few “buts” to consider. 1) The Red Sox have room in their payroll and there aren’t a ton of other areas in which they could improve. Paying $6 mil/win is not a bad result for them. 2) There’s a strong possibility that Lowell’s injury knocks a good chunk off his expected production, particularly on defense. That could easily make Tex a 4 win improvement on this team. 3) If Lowell is healthy, he could be traded, with the Red Sox not having to pay is full salary. If they even unload half of his salary, that’s $6 mil/year, making the cost of replacing him with Teixeira, closer to $14 mi/year for 3.3 wins--a very reasonable $4.2 mil/win. All of these add up to the Teixeira deal making a good bit of sense for the Red Sox, whether Mike Lowell is healthy or injured. He’s an extremely good player, and although it seems weird to be paying a 1B that much, he appears to be worth it. PS. Happy holidays and please nobody tell Youkilis how valuable he is as a 3B. I’d like him to sign a cheap 3-4 year deal with the Sox. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 118.160.70.127

12/20 12:19, , 1F
如果農場裡沒有Lars Anderson,20M+/y 簽 Teixeira
12/20 12:19, 1F

12/20 12:21, , 2F
都是大幅度的補強,即使Lowell健康,也有3win的差距
12/20 12:21, 2F

12/20 12:23, , 3F
因為 Youkilis 的打擊跟防守放到 3B 價值提昇很多
12/20 12:23, 3F

12/20 12:24, , 4F
而 Teixeira 在 1B 是比 Youkilis 更高一級的選手
12/20 12:24, 4F

12/20 12:26, , 5F
如果能交易Lowell,等於是兩人薪資的差距買下3~4win
12/20 12:26, 5F

12/20 12:33, , 6F
不過這只有簡單分析,事實上簽下這種大約,對於其他
12/20 12:33, 6F

12/20 12:35, , 7F
要榜約的人(Youk、Bay、Beckett..etc)影響可不小
12/20 12:35, 7F

12/20 13:22, , 8F
最後如何跟其他人簽約那部分才是我關心的
12/20 13:22, 8F

12/20 13:22, , 9F
我也很怕影響到Youk和Bay 尤其他們很快就要換約了
12/20 13:22, 9F

12/20 15:18, , 10F
Lars的等級大概在哪阿 怎麼大家都這麼期待
12/20 15:18, 10F

12/20 16:42, , 11F
襪子農場裡唯一合格的砲吧
12/20 16:42, 11F

12/20 18:20, , 12F
最好的情形就是Morneau 不過未必長的出來 可能變槍
12/20 18:20, 12F

12/20 18:27, , 13F
不過Lars Anderson比較會上壘,也比較不怕左投
12/20 18:27, 13F

12/20 18:28, , 14F
如果簽下鐵爺 然後拿Lars去交易捕手會不會比較好?
12/20 18:28, 14F

12/20 18:31, , 15F
我們養很多投手...但是只有一門砲 應該要留著
12/20 18:31, 15F

12/20 19:34, , 16F
Lars要留著啊..萬一老爹退化太嚴重的話....
12/20 19:34, 16F

12/20 22:09, , 17F
Lars在整個milb起碼可以排個前20ㄅ
12/20 22:09, 17F

12/20 22:30, , 18F
Lars要留啦,加個紅迪克去換捕手還沒那麼捨不得
12/20 22:30, 18F

12/20 22:32, , 19F
沒有前20,MiLB TOP 50裡面排NO.25
12/20 22:32, 19F

12/20 22:34, , 20F
唔,差了五名
12/20 22:34, 20F

12/20 23:59, , 21F
Lars現在離長好還遠 真正的潛力到哪也不確定 我覺得大家似
12/20 23:59, 21F

12/21 00:00, , 22F
忽有點樂觀過頭= =
12/21 00:00, 22F

12/21 00:09, , 23F
Sickels對咱們的Lars評價很高,之前看到一份他的2008評
12/21 00:09, 23F

12/21 00:10, , 24F
比他把Lars排第五名
12/21 00:10, 24F

12/21 00:34, , 25F
天花板夠高,就可以期待啊XD
12/21 00:34, 25F

12/21 00:35, , 26F
就是因為他年輕嘛
12/21 00:35, 26F

12/21 01:54, , 27F
之前小亨利大家也說樂觀過頭了 結果大家知道的XD
12/21 01:54, 27F

12/21 01:55, , 28F
Lars去交易哪個補手:P Martin的話可以喔^_<
12/21 01:55, 28F

12/21 08:31, , 29F
Sickels阿?這讓我想起了Ian也有拿過B+評價的時候
12/21 08:31, 29F

12/21 08:32, , 30F
我看看..大概跟現在的Michael Bowden差不多評價嘛
12/21 08:32, 30F

12/21 12:43, , 31F
Lars Anderson 應該明年9月就上來觀光了
12/21 12:43, 31F

12/28 20:27, 5年前 , 32F
不過Lars Ande https://noxiv.com
12/28 20:27, 32F
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