[Note] The Rays Catcher Conundrum

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http://www.draysbay.com/2011/10/14/2487878/the-rays-catcher-conundrum Let's not beat around the bush here. There were two positions on the diamond that were an absolute abomination to the team when it came to that position's turn in the lineup. The first is the shortstop position which I have touched on multiple times here and the second is the catcher position. I know, you already knew the two positions I was referring to. The near automatic out that came to the plate in the form of the Rays catcher wanted to make us either change the channel or channel our inner most strength to keep us from throwing up in our mouths. Yes, it was that bad. 光芒目前有2個大洞 一個是游擊 一個是捕手 而捕手這個位置正是我接下來要提到的 他們的打擊真的接近自動出局數 並讓我們看到他們打擊時想要轉台 The below-replacement level production we garnered from the catcher position was a putrid .194/.274/.333 that was good for a 72 wRC+ and 73 OPS+. Thanks to guys like Jeff Mathis, Drew Butera, and Carlos Corporan, the Rays actually were not last in the Majors when it came to offensive production from the catcher's slot but that is still no excuse for such a horrific stat line. To make matters worse, the Rays catchers overall value was only +1.3 fWAR which was the sixth worst total in the Majors. The base running was horrible and the defense was only kept above water due to Kelly Shoppach's fine season behind the dish, not at the dish. Apparently, Rob Johnson played every game at catcher for the Rays this past year. Is there an answer out there to the problem that the Rays have at catcher? Options are slim but there are options. Let's take a look. 今年光芒在捕手這個位置繳出比替補還差的成績 .194/.274/.333 72wRC+和73 OPS+ 感謝老天 由於Jeff Mathis Drew Butera及Carlos Corporan之流的努力 讓光芒在捕手方面的攻擊輸出不會拿到大聯盟倒數第一 但還是沒有藉口的爛 今年光芒捕手價值是1.3 fWAR 全大聯盟第六爛 還是因為蝦配今年球季優異的防守表現 才將水準拉到平均之上 要說光芒今年的捕手表現多爛呢...大概就跟讓Rob Johnson先發一整年一樣這麼爛吧 Star-divide The free agent market isn't exactly stacked and, if it were, would the Rays even be players for a top catcher on the open market? Doubt it. The Rays currently have John Jaso, Robinson Chirinos, and Jose Lobaton as internal options that all will be making league minimum or very close to it. None of this group performed well last year outside of their walk rates. Each had negative totals in base running and defense and Jaso was the best with the bat with a wRC+ of 82. Kelly Shoppach has a club option for $3.2M with a $300K buyout. Shoppach's defense helped him out-earn his cost last year with +1.1 fWAR worth roughly $5M but $3.2M seems a bit steep for the cash strapped Rays especially when that player had a wRC+ of 72. The Rays may be inclined to decline this option and try and sign him at a cheaper rate or test free agency. 今年的捕手自由市場沒有啥大魚 但就算有 光芒也沒錢簽下................ 現在光芒只有Jaso Chirinos Lobaton等內部人選 但沒有人在球季中表現的好 這些人在跑壘和防守都蠻糟糕的 打擊最好的是Jaso 但..........只有82 wRC+ 蝦配明年有3.2M球團選擇權和300K的買斷金 蝦配的防守讓他今年有1.1 fWAR 並有5M(!!)的價值 但3.2M對於捉襟見軸的光芒實在有點貴 特別是要把這些錢砸在一個只有72 wRC+的人上 所以光芒應該會選擇買斷蝦配的選擇權再試著用較便宜的約簽回 或是簽自由市場捕手 Here is who is available in free agency according to Cot's: Rod Barajas LAD Henry Blanco ARI Ramon Castro CWS Ryan Doumit PIT* Ramon Hernandez CIN Jason Kendall KC Gerald Laird STL Jose Molina TOR Yadier Molina STL * Dioner Navarro LAD Jorge Posada NYY Ivan Rodriguez WAS Brian Schneider PHI Kelly Shoppach TB * Chris Snyder PIT * Matt Treanor KC Jason Varitek BOS The Rays will likely stay away from the guys worse than our current crew. You know, the Kendalls, Vartieks, and Navarros of the world. I see little chance that Yadier Molina's option is not picked up but if it isn't he becomes the best catcher on the market and out of the Rays price range. Same goes for Hernandez, Barajas, and Posada who cannot even play catcher any more. 今年會成為FA的捕手有這麼多人 光芒應該會避開一些可能會比Jaso等人更糟的自由球員 像是Kendall Navarro等人 也許Yadier Molina的選擇權不會被紅雀撿 但又如何?他的薪水不是光芒可以負擔的 Hernandez和Barajas也跟Yadier Molina有一樣的情形 至於Posada........他也許沒辦法再繼續擔任捕手了 Ryan Doumit is an intriguing name but the injuries are a big concern and there likely will be a solid market for him once his options are declined. If not then he could be a good fit but it's not likely. I see the market being even better for Snyder and his option could be picked up by the Pirates. The Rays best bet in the free agent market is Shoppach or maybe Jose Molina or Matt Treanor. Honestly, I'd rather have Shoppach who knows the pitching staff, plays solid defense, and still mashed leftied with a 124 wRC+ against them. Ryan Doumit是個選擇 但是他痛痛 且萬一選擇權遭拒 會成為自由市場上的熱門人選 目前看起來Snyder的選擇權較有可能被海盜撿起來 但他如投入自由市場可加深市場深度 光芒在自由市場最佳解還是蝦配 摸二哥或Treanor 但我還是比較傾向簽回蝦配 因為他了解我們的投手 有好的防守 而且左殺能力還在 面對左投有124 wRC+ You could try and trade for a catcher but Devin Mesoraco will cost you James Shields. Geovany Soto may be available but he might make upwards of $5M next year and what will the cost in trade be? The Nationals have interest in starting pitching and B.J. Upton but I find it highly unlikely that Wilson Ramos is available and Derek Norris is at least a full year or two away. The best trade option would be to call Colorado up and inquire on Chris Iannetta. He is under contract for 2012 at $3.55M with a 2013 option at $5M with a $250K buyout. At worst he will cost $3.8M next year. The Rockies have Wilin Rosario and Jordan Pacheco vying for an opportunity and the Rockies will listen to offers on Iannetta despite the fact that he was worth +3.3 fWAR and threw out 30% of attempted base stealers. Oh, that .370 OBP looks very nice as well. If the Rays cannot make a reasonable trade for Iannetta or Soto or steal Ramos or Mesoraco away then I see them heading into 2012 with familiar faces hiding behind the catcher's mask. 你也可以透過交易補強 但如果你要Devin Mesoraco 你可能會出到James Shields Geovany Soto這位前新人王也許可開放交易 但他明年要價5M 而且要拿誰交易他? 國民對我們的先發投手和BJ有興趣 但是我覺得跟他們交易相當不可行 因為Wilson Ramos應該是非賣品 且Derek Norris還要一到兩年才能長成大聯盟選手 最可行的交易夥伴是洛磯 Chris Iannetta在明年要3.55M 後年5M選擇權加250K買斷金 最糟的情況就是他明年花了3.8M 因為洛磯還有Wilin Rosario和Jordan Pacheco 所以落機應該會在這個冬天聆聽各隊對Iannetta的報價 Iannetta有多好呢? 他有3.3的fWAR 30%的盜壘阻殺率 重點!!他的上壘率高達.370看起來真是舒服 如果光芒無法交易到Iannetta Soto Ramos或Mesoraco這些人的話 那...................只好叫Jaso等人戴他們的面具打球 看能不能打得比較好!!!!! -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 220.138.12.88

10/21 17:50, , 1F
Iannetta的主客場成績 Home OPS.975 Away OPS.587
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10/21 17:50, , 2F
看來有高山加持 還是不要交易他好了= =
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10/21 18:05, , 3F
Ramon Hernandez還ok吧
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10/21 18:23, , 4F
剛剛發現OP了 XDD
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10/21 18:35, , 5F
Hernandez那段我是翻成他們的價格也不是光芒所能負擔
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10/21 18:36, , 6F
的 沒辦法擔任捕手的應該只有指Posada
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10/21 18:37, , 7F
Snyder那段應該是說 作者覺得他可以提升市場捕手深度
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10/21 18:38, , 8F
但海盜有他的選項
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10/21 21:00, , 9F
再看了一次 C大正解 我改~~~
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※ 編輯: Edwardex 來自: 220.138.12.88 (10/21 21:02)

10/23 00:59, , 10F
海盜的兩個捕手選擇權都沒被檢........
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07/02 20:43, 5年前 , 11F
剛剛發現OP了 XDD https://moxox.com
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