[轉錄][轉錄][Rumor] Ray Allen <===> Kevin Martin

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※ [本文轉錄自 NBA 看板] 作者: danielprince (丹尼爾王子) 看板: NBA 標題: [轉錄][Rumor] Ray Allen <===> Kevin Martin 時間: Mon Feb 8 23:19:07 2010 ※ [本文轉錄自 Celtics 看板] 作者: SULICon (Puff Gasoft) 看板: Celtics 標題: [Rumor] Ray Allen <===> Kevin Martin 時間: Mon Feb 8 21:11:40 2010 新聞出處(必填):http://0rz.tw/VfweT http://0rz.tw/FFq87 作者:Ken Berger Celtics, Allen on trade clock Few grand conclusions can be drawn from February NBA games. But in this case, the Celtics' latest disappointing loss only underscored what has been a poorly kept secret among NBA executives for weeks: Ray Allen's time in Boston is likely coming to an end. Thanks to a non-competitive third quarter, the Celtics fell to Orlando 96-89 on Sunday, dropping them to third in the East behind the Cavs and Magic. The struggling Celtics still have three games against Cleveland to prove they haven't fallen from elite status. But after going 1-3 against Orlando and 0-4 against Atlanta, the Celtics have reached a crossroads in their bid to milk one more championship banner out of the Allen-Paul Pierce-Kevin Garnett era. Don't bet on every member of the Big Three being around beyond the Feb. 18 trade deadline. Though team president Danny Ainge has publicly ridiculed the Allen trade reports, several NBA executives told CBSSports.com that the Celtics have been actively trying to parlay Allen's $19.7 million expiring contract into an asset that could keep them in the mix during the upcoming playoffs and also help them for the next several seasons. The most recent inquiry, sources say, involved Sacramento sharpshooter Kevin Martin, who'd be a good fit with Boston's remaining core. Kings officials might be talked out of their reluctance to deal Martin if they could pry a prolific big man out of a third team brought into the discussions or in a separate transaction before the deadline. The bottom line is that Ainge, who saved his job by pulling off the perfect storm of trades that yielded Allen and Garnett three years ago, has made it clear in private conversations that he's "not going back to the abyss," according to one person familiar with the discussions. "Danny has said, 'I can't go back to square one where we were prior to the Garnett deal,'" the person said. "At the All-Star break, they’re going to look in the mirror and say, 'Cleveland got better, we can't beat Orlando, and we can't even beat the Hawks. We’re not going to win it this year.'" If the Celtics kept Allen and let his contract come off the books, they'd still be over the cap this summer with no avenues besides sign-and-trades to acquire a starting shooting guard. That's why Boston also has expressed interest in the Bulls' Kirk Hinrich, an excellent defender and ball-handler who would give the Celtics a starting two guard next season at $9 million and in 2011-12 at $8 million. The Bulls' motivation would be cap relief. The Kings, who are not planning to be big free-agent shoppers this summer, aren't seeking to acquire cap space alone. They want assets -- and the Celtics don't have a young big man to offer. The Bulls, who almost certainly will move Tyrus Thomas, might need to be invited into that conversation to satisfy everyone's needs. Whatever avenue they pursue, the Celtics don't want to go into this summer with no cap flexibility and no assets that could be used to keep them among the elite. Before Ainge struck the 2007 draft-related deal for Allen and then plucked Garnett from Minnesota with the help of former teammate Kevin McHale, the Celtics had just endured a 24-win season and hadn't been out of the first round since 2002-03. Ainge and Doc Rivers were on the brink of getting fired until the perfect remedy presented itself -- and the Celtics parlayed the Allen and Garnett deals into their 17th NBA title. "Kevin McHale's out of the league," one rival executive said, only half-joking. "So they're not going to be able to recreate that deal again." The period leading up to that was so grim that nobody in the organization wants to revisit it. The best way to avoid such a scenario would be to part ways with Allen. It wouldn't be starting over. Instead, it would be a bold attempt to have a chance against Cleveland, Orlando, and Atlanta in the playoffs and avoid going back to the depths of rebuilding. Would you trade Ray Allen for Kevin Martin? 72% Yes ████████ 902 votes 27% No ███ 349 votes -- ┌這篇文章讓您覺得?────────────────────────────┐ │ │ 一"一 \ / >\\\< ╯ ╰ ∩ ∩ ▁ ▁_< ㄧ ㄧ+ │ ε Δ ╰╯ 北七 亂喔 害羞 莎笅 爽啦 哭爸 XD 科科 └───────────────────http://www.wretch.cc/album/sulicon──┘ -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 220.136.56.219

02/08 21:15,
險路勿近啊~不過我們真的需要個妹妹頭殺手...
02/08 21:15

02/08 21:15,
順便把Rando一起打包換evans吧..
02/08 21:15

02/08 21:24,
完了
02/08 21:24

02/08 21:27,
rumor愈來愈多了 看來今年說不定會成真…
02/08 21:27

02/08 21:40,
唉~希望三巨頭不要拆夥啊 阿炮走就超惋惜的
02/08 21:40

02/08 21:54,
no.........
02/08 21:54

02/08 21:55,
KM太玻璃人了吧 風險頗高的投資
02/08 21:55

02/08 22:01,
乳摸講不完~無止盡的迴圈!等成真再說~
02/08 22:01

02/08 22:07,
72% 是C's官網投票的結果嗎...orz
02/08 22:07

02/08 22:10,
ray不要走!走了我就沒動力早起看比賽了............
02/08 22:10

02/08 22:11,
Martin健康的話 進攻可期待 防守會是洞
02/08 22:11

02/08 22:12,
不過只拿到Martin...也不太想換 應該還有更棒的交易
02/08 22:12

02/08 22:14,
加個Casspi好了...慢慢想XD
02/08 22:14

02/08 22:18,
NO!!!!!!!!
02/08 22:18

02/08 22:29,
完了
02/08 22:29

02/08 22:37,
如果ray得走 希望能把ray送去強隊 想看他打季後賽
02/08 22:37

02/08 22:39,
老實說 如果好好用ray能撐至少2-3年 像hill那樣
02/08 22:39

02/08 22:41,
希望看到的是他光榮退休 不是被遺棄而淡出NBA
02/08 22:41

02/08 22:50,
有看到三方交易換來Igoudala 這我還比較能接受
02/08 22:50

02/08 22:53,
會有乳摸不意外 第三節先發打這麼爛 全部都該被幹譙
02/08 22:53
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02/08 23:19,
...
02/08 23:19

02/08 23:20,
YES的好多
02/08 23:20
Yocoldagain:轉錄至看板 Kings 02/08 23:20

02/08 23:21,
THX
02/08 23:21

02/08 23:24,
這.................@@
02/08 23:24

02/08 23:24,
這個...超賽又要回來了...
02/08 23:24

02/08 23:25,
@@
02/08 23:25

02/08 23:25,
KM防守不怎麼好...我想看defensive的賽隊啊
02/08 23:25

02/08 23:26,
真是這樣超賽賺翻了!!! Martin超準...又很年輕!!
02/08 23:26

02/08 23:27,
國王會不會交易後又買斷Allen,只要到期約清薪資
02/08 23:27

02/08 23:27,
超賽要的是射手 不是大鎖... 而且KM又比較年輕...
02/08 23:27

02/08 23:28,
玻璃馬丁= = 真的交易的話怕他受傷又影響球隊磨合
02/08 23:28

02/08 23:30,
ALLEN交易過去買斷再回超賽 我們超賽超強的啦
02/08 23:30

02/08 23:30,
被愷愷戳中笑點...
02/08 23:30

02/08 23:31,
暗黑兵法不是馬刺專用的嗎XD
02/08 23:31

02/08 23:33,
有賺嗎?Martin又玻璃防守又爛約又長.....
02/08 23:33

02/08 23:34,
..........
02/08 23:34

02/08 23:34,
偽賽迷真High
02/08 23:34
還有 86 則推文
02/09 00:50,
速度快 外線準 這樣外線還扛不起來的話 那..
02/09 00:50

02/09 00:50,
快換呀 RAY可以教新人王投籃也是個傳承
02/09 00:50

02/09 00:51,
這樣倫艾倫會哭吧...傳奇射手生涯末期被當成交易籌碼
02/09 00:51

02/09 00:52,
馬丁較宮城已經好幾年了
02/09 00:52

02/09 00:52,
球迷是感性的 生意是冷血 事實他最有價值來交易
02/09 00:52

02/09 00:53,
Garcia電動裡面好準...
02/09 00:53

02/09 00:53,
......... 不准換
02/09 00:53

02/09 00:53,
http://tinyurl.com/yzqwb6b 補圖 瞧瞧他的帥氣臉龐
02/09 00:53

02/09 00:54,
Penny的弟弟XD
02/09 00:54

02/09 00:54,
樓上的圖像KOBE
02/09 00:54

02/09 00:54,
試時候KOBE該上場救援了
02/09 00:54

02/09 01:21,
會被當成籌碼就代表還有價值 真正會哭的是連交易價值
02/09 01:21

02/09 01:22,
都沒有的球員…
02/09 01:22

02/09 01:25,
例如?
02/09 01:25

02/09 01:25,
覺得這樣換兩邊都沒啥好處
02/09 01:25

02/09 01:41,
不知道在噓啥 沒幾人說KM不好 倒是一堆人覺得國王虧
02/09 01:41

02/09 01:53,
國王很賺啊 KM的約這麼久又貴 重點是那麼容易受傷
02/09 01:53

02/09 01:53,
KM for zero 省錢國王都覺得賺
02/09 01:53

02/09 01:54,
反正是個雙贏的交易 國王想省錢 Bos想避免重建
02/09 01:54

02/09 01:58,
覺得虧是因為Martin的約跟Allen大小有差,要交易國王
02/09 01:58

02/09 01:59,
要再加東西,而國王現在手上一堆都是到期約,扔沒用的
02/09 01:59

02/09 01:59,
多半都會扔到到期約,扔長約會動到主力..
02/09 01:59

02/09 02:02,
大概會加Nocioni或Udrih啊 這兩隻約比較長
02/09 02:02

02/09 02:04,
不過不想動到這兩個 就拿Thomas或Rahim到期約換
02/09 02:04

02/09 02:04,
一樣是到期約 至少可以多清掉KM這四年大約
02/09 02:04

02/09 02:07,
國王重建主力就Evans Hawes Thompson Casspi Greene
02/09 02:07

02/09 02:07,
賺翻了~
02/09 02:07

02/09 02:16,
KM和Rondo配總覺得怪怪的
02/09 02:16

02/09 02:20,
A兄一點都不了解國王還說的振振有辭,加油,好嗎?
02/09 02:20

02/09 02:25,
KEVIN MARTIN 在老外裡面真的算很清秀 帥氣
02/09 02:25

02/09 02:26,
國王丟KM絕對不會是省錢的因素好嗎?
02/09 02:26

02/09 02:40,
看到清掉KM的大約就很好笑了 ~ 乾脆全部買斷全部清掉
02/09 02:40

02/09 02:41,
這樣有沒有達到省錢的目的 !!!???
02/09 02:41

02/09 02:59,
A開頭的是來亂的吧
02/09 02:59

02/09 03:26,
超塞換到很賺
02/09 03:26

02/09 07:02,
軟豆:在沒競爭力的球隊刷分沒啥了不起 先叫聲學長來
02/09 07:02

02/09 07:02,
聽聽
02/09 07:02
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02/09 12:57, , 1F
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02/09 12:57, 1F
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