[外電] 拿Olt換Dickey值得嗎?

看板Rangers作者 (造.蒺藜.夢)時間11年前 (2012/12/15 03:30), 編輯推噓17(17035)
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本來想找看看有沒有"遊騎兵應該(或不應該)去追Dickey的幾大理由"之類的文章, 但目前似乎沒看到,只發現了一篇五天前的新聞。 加減看一下囉。 --- R.A. Dickey trade rumors: Rangers interested, but extension likely PUBLISHED Sunday, Dec 9, 2012 at 4:32 pm EST By Anthony Witrado Sporting News http://ppt.cc/gAQj The New York Mets were not at all happy with the offers they received for Cy Young award winner R.A. Dickey during the winter meetings last week, and because of that a contract extension seems likely at this point. 大都會不滿意別隊對Dickey的報價,所以目前看起來Dickey比較可能和大都會續約。 Dickey can become a free agent after next season and any team trading for him isn’t assured he will re-sign, so understandably teams are hesitant to give up a bushel of their best prospects for the 38-year-old knuckleballer. The Mets are realizing this, and talks with Dickey have made some progress since the meetings ended Thursday, according to the New York Daily News. Dickey明年球季結束後會成為自由球員。 With Zack Greinke now a Los Angeles Dodger, the Texas Rangers are figuring out how to land the front-line pitcher they desire. They’ve turned some of their vast attention to Dickey and have offered one of their top position prospects, Mike Olt. However, the Mets say that isn’t enough and are asking for more. 隨著Z魔神穿上道奇球衣,遊騎兵仍在想辦法如何得到他們渴望的前段輪值先發。 我們對Dickey很有興趣,並且開出以潛力新秀Olt為籌碼的交易條件, 但大都會覺得Olt只是小菜一碟。 Olt is a 24-year-old third baseman/first baseman/outfielder who hit 28 home runs in Double-A Frisco last season and is seen as one of the top power prospects in the minors. The Rangers won’t add to their package and the Mets won’t accept Olt as the lone top prospect, so that deal is probably dead and an extension looks like the obvious conclusion here. Either that or the Mets will allow Dickey to pitch without a deal for 2014. Olt,24歲,可當三壘手、一壘手、外野守使用,上個球季在AA打出28支HR, 是我們農場裡的頂級新秀砲管之一。 我們出了Olt的話就不會再加其他人作為籌碼,但大都會不接受只有Olt的包裹, 所以這場談判很可能就此破局。 The Mets look a little foolish here. Dickey is a Cy Young winner, yes. But last season also was the first in which he looked like a real ace of a staff, and while he is a knuckleballer, he is still 38 with one year left on his current deal. 大都會拒絕遊騎兵的這件事似乎有點蠢。 Dickey是得到了賽揚的殊榮沒錯, 但今年球季似乎也是他第一個真正投出ACE級身手的球季; 雖然他是蝴蝶球投手,但目前合約上剩下的最後一年是他38歲的一年。 It is a reach for the Mets to ask for such a package – they are pretty much asking the same thing for Dickey as the Arizona Diamondbacks are for Justin Upton – and that is why no one will bite. A package like the Rangers offered is a nice one and can really help New York’s lineup now and into the future while hanging onto Dickey assures only one season of a better rotation for since they won’t compete in the National League East. 大都會要求我們拿來換Dickey的包裹, 很可能和小蛇要求我們來換J. Upton的包裹是一樣的, 這也是為什麼我們不會上當。 (意思應該是如果出一樣的東西可以拿到Upton那我們幹麻還要拿去換Dickey) 遊騎兵提出的包裹很好,真正對大都會的打線--不管現在或未來--都有幫助, 而現在死抓著Dickey不放則只能確保未來一個球季有好一點的輪值。 If they can’t sign him to an extension and Dickey walks after next season, the Mets will look pretty dumb for not moving him now. 如果大都會沒辦法和Dickey續約,而他明年球季結束後走人的話, 那你就知道大都會現在不把Dickey放掉有多蠢了。 --- 總之,如果我們出Olt而大都會還不和我們換(又留不住Dickey)的話實在很蠢。 那換個角度說,我們拿Olt去換Dickey的話會很蠢嗎? -- ◆. 2010 American League CHAMPION .◆ ◆. 2011 American League CHAMPION .◆ ★.TEXAS RANGERS.★ Keep walking, Ranger walker. --ForgerEames -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 111.248.78.199

12/15 03:32, , 1F
Olt為籌碼 跑去換個38歲的投手ZZZZZZ
12/15 03:32, 1F

12/15 03:50, , 2F
我們對他很熟悉了 但老實講 他在這裡的時候表現並不好
12/15 03:50, 2F

12/15 03:51, , 3F
不過當時他身為中繼 不是用蝴蝶球來主戰 我只記得他當時普
12/15 03:51, 3F

12/15 03:52, , 4F
通的球速跟一個平均水準的曲球 但現在的他是很難評估的
12/15 03:52, 4F

12/15 03:53, , 5F
h大,最主要考慮的點還是年紀對吧?
12/15 03:53, 5F

12/15 03:54, , 6F
還有我想問h大,如果真的要追他,你覺得我們出怎樣的
12/15 03:54, 6F

12/15 03:54, , 7F
我倒是很想知道現在金鳥的總教練 就是我們03-06的總教練現在
12/15 03:54, 7F

12/15 03:54, , 8F
包裹才不算虧?
12/15 03:54, 8F

12/15 03:55, , 9F
對他的看法是如何 當初有沒有想過讓他用蝴蝶先發XD
12/15 03:55, 9F

12/15 03:55, , 10F
很難 我是會比較保守 有點擔心他是國聯限定...
12/15 03:55, 10F

12/15 03:57, , 11F
就像Demp那樣嗎""XDD
12/15 03:57, 11F

12/15 03:57, , 12F
蝴蝶球投手一向就很難評估 這賭會賭很大 就算賭中也不見得好
12/15 03:57, 12F

12/15 03:59, , 13F
雖然Lewis跟Feliz啥時回來還不知 但真要賭還不如賭他們兩個
12/15 03:59, 13F

12/15 04:01, , 14F
我想JD不會病急亂投醫的 球隊當然損失不少戰力 但是如果只是
12/15 04:01, 14F

12/15 04:02, , 15F
為了挽回 把手上的籌碼都壓下去 是會兩頭空的 與其不上不下
12/15 04:02, 15F

12/15 04:02, , 16F
我更寧願多一點時間讓新秀成長 這樣長遠來看更好...
12/15 04:02, 16F

12/15 05:36, , 17F
總板說Dickey可能被交易了
12/15 05:36, 17F

12/15 06:36, , 18F
快沒得換了
12/15 06:36, 18F

12/15 06:37, , 19F
Dickey並不是今年1年強而已﹐過去3年的總成績在聯盟
12/15 06:37, 19F

12/15 06:38, , 20F
可以排top 5. 可以說Dickey這幾年算是有實績的Ace
12/15 06:38, 20F

12/15 06:39, , 21F
Olt說到底還隻是prospect,長的好或許成為Beltre之類的
12/15 06:39, 21F

12/15 06:39, , 22F
但也可能以後就bust了。我個人同意一個Olt換不到Dickey
12/15 06:39, 22F

12/15 06:40, , 23F
Dickey唯一的問題是年齡比較大。但事實是他年輕的時候
12/15 06:40, 23F

12/15 06:40, , 24F
局數並不多﹐所以可以預見運動壽命相對會長一些
12/15 06:40, 24F

12/15 06:41, , 25F
總的來說Dickey的價值應該值2個top prospects
12/15 06:41, 25F

12/15 08:43, , 26F
話說剛看乳模 我們家"可能"在Dickey交易案出局了
12/15 08:43, 26F

12/15 09:53, , 27F
蝴蝶哥被藍鳥拿走了
12/15 09:53, 27F

12/15 10:34, , 28F
Dickey掰掰了... 現在只好把目標轉換其他人選
12/15 10:34, 28F

12/15 10:35, , 29F
我希望能得到Stanton 這樣能提升我們打線
12/15 10:35, 29F

12/15 10:37, , 30F
Profar+Olt 或 Andrus+Olt 再一些新秀 可行嗎?
12/15 10:37, 30F

12/15 10:38, , 31F
Profar單換加點配菜吧 兩隻都丟也太心痛XD
12/15 10:38, 31F

12/15 10:46, , 32F
我反而希望今年乾脆不要有動作了 除非是便宜的小約
12/15 10:46, 32F

12/15 10:46, , 33F
還有Profar基本上不可能丟 他評價很高耶 Olt倒有可能
12/15 10:46, 33F

12/15 10:47, , 34F
反正現在也簽不到啥 不如隨便個五號+幾隻牛 別交易了
12/15 10:47, 34F

12/15 10:47, , 35F
現在交易肯定會被搶劫...
12/15 10:47, 35F

12/15 11:00, , 36F
Olt單換Dickey虧的是我們 不要拉倒真的
12/15 11:00, 36F

12/15 11:12, , 37F
寧可讓Profar 跟Olt 上來練功也不要被搶
12/15 11:12, 37F

12/15 11:13, , 38F
今年的FA市場應該算失敗了 不知道明年的FA有什麼好菜!?
12/15 11:13, 38F

12/15 11:40, , 39F
olt對大都會吸引力不大是可以理解的,大都會才跟David Wrig
12/15 11:40, 39F

12/15 11:43, , 40F
ht簽下8年合約,1B的Ike Davis今年32轟雖然打擊率偏低,但他
12/15 11:43, 40F

12/15 11:44, , 41F
還很年輕只比Olt大一歲...
12/15 11:44, 41F

12/15 11:55, , 42F
突然發現Bourn還沒被簽耶
12/15 11:55, 42F

12/15 12:03, , 43F
Bourn應該也不便宜吧 雖然他只有腿
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12/15 13:24, , 44F
他還有Bora$ ˊ_>ˋ
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12/15 13:36, , 45F
在自由市場進度落後 現在應該不是討論值不值的問題
12/15 13:36, 45F

12/15 13:38, , 46F
剛開始還能討論說 簽Z或漢米回來 現在連漢米都被挖走
12/15 13:38, 46F

12/15 13:40, , 47F
不過要送走Profar應該是不可能的 Olt肯定可以交易打算
12/15 13:40, 47F

12/15 14:53, , 48F
第一次看到Bourn被說只有腿 囧 他防守很好的
12/15 14:53, 48F

12/15 16:08, , 49F
傻了才換DICKY吧
12/15 16:08, 49F

12/17 09:58, , 50F
結果也沒得吵了~
12/17 09:58, 50F

12/17 10:02, , 51F
好像確定去藍鳥了。
12/17 10:02, 51F

12/19 13:46, , 52F
悶爆了...
12/19 13:46, 52F
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